Poll: 40k: Time for a change?

[Aloran]

I have only just finished reading up on such things as the Horus Heresy and whatnot.
However, is it just me, or does Chaos seem to be in the overall majority/power in the 40k universe?
I mean the emperor has to be kept alive by thousands of sacrifices every day, the ultramarines primarch got whooped by his fellow primarch in the heresy and is now being kept alive in a stasis field. And the general rule of 40k is "it's good vs. evil, verses everything else, who thinks everyone else is evil," unless you're talking about the tyranids and necrons- they just destroy stuff.

I think there needs to be some sort of grand scale shift around
maybe a unison between the "good" races (eldar, tau, imperial army, space marines...) against a conglomeration of the "evil" races, although whether the necrons/tyranids would ever ally is almost incomprehensible.
I don't really know what could happen- change is needed though

 

[Garthoc]

Right Im with you!

I used to be really into the 40k universe, and there is still somthing about it that keeps my attention. however...

Chaos have deamons!
Eldar have Ships the size of planets
Tyrannids have the galaxie surrounded by infinate other galaxies they have already destroyed
Tau have all the technology under the sun it seems
and the orks... well they have each other I guess

but the Imperium kinda don't have any of that.

so Bring Back the Primarches! the great space marine leaders of old, they would sell like nothing else in the universe.

Some of them could fly, some had super speed, some where vampires and stuff!

Legend!

 

[Nova Tendril]

When I look at W40k lore I don't see where it can possibly go. Every race is on the edge with something that can destroy them. It seems like the slightest change would completley upset the balance.

Of course they could always call in a Deus Ex machine and solve these problems.

 

[lazy_bum]

I dont think that 40k is in need of any particular changes, maybe a few rules tweaks, but the background is just fine. No one is particularyly the 'good' guys, just the lesser of two evils. Also the whole havning the emprorer dying idea, while cool, would totally change the entire game fluff. If it isnt broken i say dont fix it. Though there was that bit in the 40k rulebook about the fact the golden throne is broken and cant be fixed, which could be edging towards a change, but i doubt it, just leaves a good bit of fluff to be speculated on.

 

[Normeo]

I love my Skaven army, damnit!

Damn, you must have a lot of time on your hands. I'm a 40k guy but my friend has skaven. Don't you need to paint like 60+ to have even a minor skirmish?

Yeah, you do. But I just love having that huge army. I love the fact that Skaven have number on their side. It just looks so awsome. And I also love the Skaven slaves =D

He has never played as tyranids or guard. I must have over 100 infantry modles.

 

[Bob_Marley42]

Why move the plot foreward from its current point? 40k has 10,000 of largley undesribed history. They could have a whole range of scinarios without boning up thier setting by continuosly moving the plot foreward like the Star Wars EU or Battletech.

 

[JemJar]

I've not touched 40k in many years, thank god.

If they dump in some more new races (I've seen the arrival of Necrons, Sisters of Battle, Tau and Dark Eldar) then, as is normally the case with GW, the new stuff will be amazingly over-powered. There was considerable concern over how to fight a Necron army when they first arrived, until someone pointed out in the Citadel Journal that a Rhino transport tank is only a fraction more expensive (50pts to 44) and you can run the metal buggers over. You couldn't out-shoot them, you couldn't out-melee them, but you could sure as hell run them down.

And bringing back the Primarchs is a terrible idea. Because some idiot will want to put one in his army. And that'll mean making game rules for what should be almost a god. Given the way the lore talks up Primarchs they should be nigh-invincible, fast, preposterously deadly and basically able to slaughter an army solo. Bringing them back might be interesting from a lore point of view, but it'll never stay separate from the tables.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Maybe they should make the miniatures rules so that they don't suck...

Oh wait...

That's impossible! Because then it might be fair and people wouldn't need to spend as much fricken money on it.

(I like the universe/setting just fine, I just can't stand the miniatures rules)

 

[painfull2006]

I cant help but feel that an huge Eldar plan should come into play, there number replenished and see where it goes form there

 

[Cheesebob]

Woah, wait! I've got a question. Is there anyone at all that paints regulare Warhammer? Or is it just 40K for everyone. I love my Skaven army, damnit!

Also. I haven't read much about the universe, but I know enough to think it might be a good idea with some changes ...

Ogres for me

 

[Skeleon]

To me, 40K is about this hopeless, deadlocked kind of conflict we're talking about. IIRC, there was some progress when GW organized a tournament and the Tau gained some ground, fluff-wise, but those kind of things are minor and - in my opinion - they should stay that way. This eternal struggle and the constant tension (especially the Imperium is always in) is what 40K is all about.

 

[iain62a]

The general rule of 40k is "it's good vs. evil, verses everything else, who thinks everyone else is evil," unless you're talking about the tyranids and necrons- they just destroy stuff.

Not really, there isn't any faction who you'd call good. It's more law versus chaos.

On-Topic: Games Workshop advancing the story? BWAHAHAHAHA.

 

[Typhusoid]

I agree, I think a reshuffle in the background could seriously help narrative flow, but GW has such a large customer base now that any attempt to do so would result in a never ending stream of bile from the majority of the player base.

For some time now GW has seen fit to basically do its own thing with llittle regard for feedback and it has left them with a couple of shitty codices, a couple of overbalanced ones, and a rapidly descending, dead-end background.

 

[Pandalisk]

I cant help but feel that an huge Eldar plan should come into play, there number replenished and see where it goes form there

If that were to happen the Mind Fuckery all the other races would receive would be unbelievable

 

[toapat]

The general rule of 40k is "it's good vs. evil, verses everything else, who thinks everyone else is evil," unless you're talking about the tyranids and necrons- they just destroy stuff.

Not really, there isn't any faction who you'd call good. It's more law versus chaos.

On-Topic: Games Workshop advancing the story? BWAHAHAHAHA.

well, the Tau are trying to be good guys, then the imperium, eldar, and orks are nuetral (you cant call the orks bad guys when they only want to have fun), and necron, chaos forces, and tyranids are evil

 

[JemJar]

I cant help but feel that an huge Eldar plan should come into play, there number replenished and see where it goes form there

If that were to happen the Mind Fuckery all the other races would receive would be unbelievable

It always disappoints me to see that "Mind Fuckery" is all that the Eldar have become. They used to kick arse and take a selection of names. Like Terence, or Barry. Maybe Gerald...

 

[Typhusoid]

By the way, though this somewhat merits a thread of its own it is somewhat related and now we've got the 40k fans all in one place I just though I'd ask: Do think the background and representation in-game are biased toward the Imperium? The background tells us the Imperium is a vast beauracracy beset from all sides by aliens and traitors. Doesn't this belittle all the other factions? And as for in-game, for those of you that read White Dwarf, when did you last read a battle report that didn't contain the Imperium? Its pretty obvious that something needs to change in the GW design team.

 

[Skeleon]

I think for GW it's always been about the Space Marines, Ultramarines in particular.
No wonder it's a little skewed into their perspective.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

Woah, wait! I've got a question. Is there anyone at all that paints regulare Warhammer? Or is it just 40K for everyone. I love my Skaven army, damnit!

Also. I haven't read much about the universe, but I know enough to think it might be a good idea with some changes ...

Dusting off my High Elves as I type.

 

[Pandalisk]

I cant help but feel that an huge Eldar plan should come into play, there number replenished and see where it goes form there

If that were to happen the Mind Fuckery all the other races would receive would be unbelievable

It always disappoints me to see that "Mind Fuckery" is all that the Eldar have become. They used to kick arse and take a selection of names. Like Terence, or Barry. Maybe Gerald...

well thats what happens when all they seem to do is be mulipinative arseholes, the Dow games make it seem like they can never fight a battle themselves, not to mention for all their technology their armour is made of cardbourd