Poll: A small dilemma regarding drug possession
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Honestly... I think it's his problem... I wouldn't report him to the police. I would more quickly report his brother to child services as I don't think it's... "healthy" for a 16 year old to live in such an environment... Other then that, if he's not selling and if he's not bothering anyone (yet) then I would leave him alone. I had a couple of friends that did coke and I wasn't very into hanging out with them so I stopped seeing them as I know where that train always leads to... But if they wanna screw up their life it's their problem.
A word of advise though... If you go through with it and report him to the cops be sure you can handle the consequences. I'm not saying for you not to do what you believe is right but if they find out you rated them out have no doubt that there will be consequences on your side. Reporting junkies (specially if they sell) can bring you a ton of problems if they know where you live and since you have friends in common I'll assume he does know that.
If you do report him don't be all high and mighty to the point you tell ANYONE it was you. Don't tell your parents, don't tell your brothers, don't tell your girlfriend or any of your friends... If you need to tell someone tell a psychologist or a priest as at least they have to maintain professional silence.
That said... Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
A word of advise though... If you go through with it and report him to the cops be sure you can handle the consequences. I'm not saying for you not to do what you believe is right but if they find out you rated them out have no doubt that there will be consequences on your side. Reporting junkies (specially if they sell) can bring you a ton of problems if they know where you live and since you have friends in common I'll assume he does know that.
If you do report him don't be all high and mighty to the point you tell ANYONE it was you. Don't tell your parents, don't tell your brothers, don't tell your girlfriend or any of your friends... If you need to tell someone tell a psychologist or a priest as at least they have to maintain professional silence.
That said... Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
At 16 you should be able to make your own choice on drugs, at that point it's either you're going to do it or not and either get it out of your system and stop or be in the minority that can't handle it and get caught up in it all.
16 is around the age they're going to get curious about such things and go do them if they want to regardless of parental control.
To be honest, it's likely better he's getting it from a trusted source rather than the alternative.
As for reporting him, you're incredibly naive if you think adding law enforcement would make that situation any better.
16 is around the age they're going to get curious about such things and go do them if they want to regardless of parental control.
To be honest, it's likely better he's getting it from a trusted source rather than the alternative.
As for reporting him, you're incredibly naive if you think adding law enforcement would make that situation any better.
Buddy seemed to be insinuating that if you do coke, you are involved with gangs and the mafia by default, which is utter bullshit. People have this stereotypical idea about drugs that is more fantasy that real. The sale of drugs is a business, like the sale of any other commodity. The involvement of most dealers with gangs or the mafia is non existent. Most dealers just get their supplies from other people like them, and distribute it accordingly to turn a profit, like businesses that buy wholesale and jack up the price by selling smaller portions, you know, like most normal businesses do.Blablahb said:
Also, replace the term "coke fiends" with "US government" and you're on the right track.
Also, that's a slippery slope your trundling up. You know who's responsible for the turmoil in Africa? Greedy women who want big shiny rings from their fiancees. Ever heard the term "blood diamond"?
You know who contributes to child labor and poor working conditions in china and other third world countries? People who buy anything made in those countries.
Everything that people want is a commodity. The main reason drugs are illegal is because it would have been difficult to regulate and control them, which means the government would have a hard time taxing them.
Know what, fuck it. I just don't feel motivated enough to want to enlighten you on all the topics your statement brings to mind.
please, dont be a dick.FuktLogik said:
im mainly just speculating. honestly, when you picture a 16 year old that not only does hard drugs, but was introduced to them by his parents, do you picture that kid doing okay in life?
the only personal experience i have is my cousin who got introduced to drugs at a young age, and still does them in his late twenties. the last i heard of him, he was hiding his truck to avoid having it get repossessed, and he was leeching off of our grandfather.
also, it may have been easy for you to quit, but that might be because whenever you went to visit mom and dad, they werent snorting cocaine and inviting you to join them. just sayin
I wasn't trying to be a dick. Just keep in mind that when you use the statement " I guarantee" followed by something you know little about, you are essentially talking out of your ass. Also keep in mind that all of this is hearsay from an anonymous internet source (Topic Creator). He was very vague on the details of the 16 year old and his parents, which is the thing people replying to this thread seem to be hung up on.Vykrel said:
I wanted to ask people what they thought, and from the poll results, and that one douche on the second page, opinions differ. I've already made up my mind. In fact, our police department has an online reporting system. I forgot the number of the house so I figured I'd drive by there one more time, then fill out a report later today.Spade Lead said:
Also, it's a funny thing that the people who don't advocate drug use are the ones who aren't getting defensive and insulting.
I knew someone like you would turn up.FuktLogik said:
I love how because we have different opinions we've been "brainwashed".
Wait... Now that I look back at your posts, I can't help but think you're just a clever troll...
Funny how you say that when you're not respecting that family's opinion and are intending to report them, which will likely land a few of them in jail, put the 16 year old in a juvenile correctional facility, and have social services take him away from his parents, provided he's not already 19 by the time he gets out.Phlakes said:
I'm fine with people having their own opinions about pretty much everything, but you go so far as to force your moral opinion on that family by reporting them to the cops.
Everyone has a vice, let them have theirs.
I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one. By reporting them to the police you aren't helping them. AT ALL. You're just screwing up their life worse with most likely jail time, and if not, big fines. If you really wanna help, get them some HELP, not more trouble. Getting the police involved will make things much worse.FuktLogik said:
Brainwashed is a hyperbolic term, maybe he's suggesting that you only have secondhand knowledge of the true effect and cause of drug use on people and he resents that you now have power over people who are actually living down the result of the war on drugs.Phlakes said:
I would like to look at this from a practical view, what do you intend to accomplish by this? Reporting a random family for their drug habit isn't going to impact the flow of drugs in this country in any way. Dealers will still deal and users will still use. At best you significantly impact a home for a short time at worst you will break up a family.
I can not urge you enough to not do what you are considering, you owe this family the courtesy of telling them you plan on reporting them. After all they were honest with you about their use of drugs, shouldn't you be honest with them about how you feel? It strikes me as unbelievably low simply to write them off.
At the very least you should know that what you are doing is not justice, law is the preferences of the many imposed on the rights of the few, all you are doing is making other people conform to a lifestyle you are comfortable with; that is neither right nor wrong.
The thing about grassing Cocaine dealers to the Police is, it's best to do it anonymously so that there's not any chance it can be traced back to you.
If you are going to do it, then it's best not to make a public thread on the internet telling the world how you are going to report some drug dealers to the Police, especially on a profile that has what appears to be your real name attached to it, a name that when entered into Google yields numerous hits and information, including a public photo album that appears to have 62 photos of your face [http://picasaweb.google.com/113960247569850722960/EpicJourney]...
I don't know whether the name in your Escapist profile is your real name, I kind of hope it is, otherwise your actions could get that poor guy in that photo album into a whole lot of trouble.
If you are going to do it, then it's best not to make a public thread on the internet telling the world how you are going to report some drug dealers to the Police, especially on a profile that has what appears to be your real name attached to it, a name that when entered into Google yields numerous hits and information, including a public photo album that appears to have 62 photos of your face [http://picasaweb.google.com/113960247569850722960/EpicJourney]...
I don't know whether the name in your Escapist profile is your real name, I kind of hope it is, otherwise your actions could get that poor guy in that photo album into a whole lot of trouble.
Cocaine is one of the most addictive and dangerous drugs in the world. A 16 year old hooked on it is unthinkable. They need to go to rehab and clean up before someone dies.
Heathrow said:
He seems to want all of the power and satisfaction of turning them in with none of the risk or responsibility for the aftermath. Not only that, but he's ignoring all the facts about how this will do far more harm than good to all those involved except him, and hiding behind the "IT's DA Law" statement.
This is exactly what I meant by brainwashed. The "drugs are bad" mentality is far too prevalent in people who have little or no experience with them, or refuse to believe that responsible users exist because they've only seen the worst. Formulating an opinion whilst ignoring the facts is one of the most dangerous things a person can do.
Personally, I wouldn't. Perhaps it's not the Citizen of the Year choice but it's the truth. It doesn't seem like anything anyone says is going to change your mind but it seems like an intrusive and ill-informed decision.
All I can say is that I hope it works out okay for that family and your "righteous" act doesn't mess them up too badly.
All I can say is that I hope it works out okay for that family and your "righteous" act doesn't mess them up too badly.
Negative.FuktLogik said:
I am not saying that everyone who does cocaine or deals cocaine is involved in organized crime.
I am saying that gangs use cocaine as a fundraiser for other operations. Organized crime is involved somewhere along the chain of production. You can't smuggle thousands of tons of an illegal substance into the international community without some organization.