Poll: Afterlife

[Hazy]

It ends with a big flame war!

Bigger than the current ones?
Oh man. I've got to see this..

 

[NotAProdigy]

We'll see.

 

[lwm3398]

It ends with a big flame war!

Bigger than the current ones?
Oh man. I've got to see this..

Bigger than the ones on the thread about Religious Politics, which also involved conversation about WWI and WWII and America hogging it's rewards and stuff.

Yeah, one about your opinions, all of them.

How would that end up?

 

[ajb924]

As much as I love getting quoted and having conversations... You are too smart for me DX You lost me there, sorry!

lol, I kinda lost it as well. Let me reiterate. You think that when you get shot in the head you resume life in another dimension. In your version, was that dimension there before, or is it created spontaneously? And if so, is a new dimension created for every thing that happens to you? Getting shot, not getting shot, getting laid, not getting laid? Or just when you die?

Ohhh, well in that case, everything is premade. You don't take over some lifeless body either, you just see out of their eyes and become the same person. My answer to the second question is this: Every instant in time can branch off into an infinant amout of option. Each option is another dimension. Therefor for every second since the earth was created, there is infinite amount of dimensions, for every life form. This means that when you get shot in the head you will resume in the most previosly made dimension with a different outcome. I like this conversation =D

 

[Hazy]

Nobody really knows what happens when you die, there is no known truth. Although it's difficult to factor in the existense of ghosts...

I think it's safe to say that ghosts do exist.

 

[Archimedes88]

i imagine death to be alot like pre-life ... which i didn't care too much for really.

 

[Stalk3rchief]

The way I see it, it's just wishful thinking. BUT, no one can know for certain, and anyone who thinks they do is just silly.
"But when people come back from the brink of death, they all say the same thing!"
Surprising, seeing as how they're all dieing humans.
-_-
That was sarcasm. If you believe in an afterlife that just makes you care less about your current life, making a potentially self destructive person. I just don't see how anyone can think that's a good thing.
*shrug*

for some you can't go to heaven if you are self destructive, which may be bad for those going through tough times unwilling to drink or smoke ( i would do neither). so believing in a better life later usually keep people from destroying themselves

i got cheesy hands

That's why I used the phrase 'Potentially self destructive.'
=]
Only saying it's easier for a person who believes in the afterlife to decide to be self destructive, as compared to someone who believes they only have one shot.
I could go on to say that the idea of an afterlife is what persuades many extremists become martyrs, but that's an entirely different conversation.

 

[Cavouku]

I will say yes, but I won't specify what, as I don't know, merely believe in something that will occur after my passing, most notably a consciousness of some sort.

Not out of a needing security, conformity, religious integrity (I have my own beliefs), but after a series of questions I've asked myself, and all such things.

I can only hope the Escapist is accepting of this.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

In the span of 5 minutes you can quite easily have a dream that feels like it lasted for hours. So in the time it takes someone to 'recover from brain dead' (which I assume is what you are eluding to) they can easily experience all the effects of de-oxygenation or 're' oxygenation if you so prefer.

This is true.

When major brain functions are interupted by de-oxygenation the perception of time is bound to be crippled in some way.

This is why people who are tranquilized in preparation for a majro operation can go to sleep and then wake up minutes later. But in fact they have been out for several hours, but to them it feels like they just shut their eyes and opened them again.

These hours just disappeared because the brain functions which allow us to experience time as a forward moving dimension were crippled during the time that the narcosis took effect.

With the right kind of drugs, it is quite possible to live an entire lifetime in just one second. Or at least feel like you have lived an entire lifetime in just one second...

 

[katsa5]

I'm a christian and believe that there is a heaven or hell. I always thought of Heaven being like the world interpretation in the anime Shuffle!: gods, demons (not bad guys, but general spirits as the Japanese legends go.), and humans all living and working together. That would be awesome!
But even if there's no heaven or hell, I'm sure there's more to this than mere 'be dirt'. As Shakespeare once wrote, "There's more to heaven and earth than what exists in your little philosophy."

 

[jboking]

That was sarcasm. If you believe in an afterlife that just makes you care less about your current life, making a potentially self destructive person. I just don't see how anyone can think that's a good thing.
*shrug*

I think that is a bit of a stretch. I know plenty of people that believe in an afterlife where the morally right live in happiness. To me, this would seem to cause the person to try and be a good person, or at least guilt trip them into it. It would make a person who does good for his fellow man so he can reap the benefits. That's not really destructive, just helpful.

 

[ArcWinter]

Well, personally, I'd like to believe that everyone is immortal, and when they die and are buried, they awaken after a week and burrow deeper. Then they live inside the earth inside a massive tunnel complex, away from those crazy living beings. It'd have all the amenities of everywhere, except you can also pretend to be mole people.

But I don't believe in that. I don't think about it a lot, because it's simple for me. Ya die, ya dead. Ya ain't gettin' back up again, until they invent necromancy, at which point I am going lich on everyone.

Undead Magic Missle!

 

[skywalkerlion]

I'm VERY VERY surprised that the option with the most votes is 'Yes.'. I thought just about everyone here was an Athiest (excuse meh if I spelt that wrong ) XD

But try not to do religion threads, I know alot of people throw around the word 'flame war', but this will ultimately become one.

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

I have a religion, so you can probably guess my opinion on the matter, so i'll end it here.

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

I hope this remains civilized... also some advice, you should probably ask a question in the opening post, or give us something to discuss, rather than stating your thoughts and nothing else. Personally I believe we are just gone. Physically, we rot in the ground, mentally we're just gone. As thinking creatures it's impossible to understand what death is. We have to imagine not thinking, which is impossible when we are alive, if we didn't think, we wouldn't be alive. This is all very hard to word properly and very hard to understand, but I'm sure someone got my points amongst the ramblings.

 

[jpoon]

I'm not sure if I believe in any type of afterlife or not. There is some pretty compelling evidence suggesting there is something beyond this skin I'm wrapped in but it's hard to say.
Strangely I really do believe in ghosts or the energies that people leave behind so I guess I sorta believe in the afterlife to an extent.

 

[Stalk3rchief]

That was sarcasm. If you believe in an afterlife that just makes you care less about your current life, making a potentially self destructive person. I just don't see how anyone can think that's a good thing.
*shrug*

I think that is a bit of a stretch. I know plenty of people that believe in an afterlife where the morally right live in happiness. To me, this would seem to cause the person to try and be a good person, or at least guilt trip them into it. It would make a person who does good for his fellow man so he can reap the benefits. That's not really destructive, just helpful.

It was only a matter of time until I got quoted by some fool who completely misunderstood my point.
*shrug*
Yeah that's great, woo after life.
But no matter what, if you believe you will live for eternity after you die, why would someone be keen to protect their limited phase of life?
I never said anyone's going to go and be a terrible despicable person.

 

[jboking]

It was only a matter of time until I got quoted by some fool who completely misunderstood my point.
*shrug*
Yeah that's great, woo after life.
But no matter what, if you believe you will live for eternity after you die, why would someone be keen to protect their limited phase of life?
I never said anyone's going to go and be a terrible despicable person.

Jesus dude, calm down. I got your point and I added my own. There are quite a number of people that believe in an afterlife, yet find it wrong to kill themselves or to take the easy road in life that leads to destruction. I am saying you are making a rather far reaching assumption and not even close to looking at more than the worst case scenario.

Also, you might stop to think that some of the people who say they believe in an afterlife aren't entirely sure: see spiritual agnostics. They aren't going to throw their life away on a 'maybe'.

 

[Dax317]

I kinda believe in afterlife but i can't. ( allow me to elaborate) I cant believe in afterlife because i don't believe in life. I think right now we are all (even you) are in hell and no matter what we do or who we do it to we will go to heaven because if we were in now heaven it would suck and we would all be spoiled brats. Kinda like Africa. the people there will eat anything and like it because they know what it is like to go without. so they appreciate it more while over in the richer country's you can pick and choose what, when, and how much you eat (with a few exceptions due to cultural differences). Kinda like the phrase "you can't appreciate heaven until you have spent 15 minuets in hell."

 

[Lavi]

Yes, but no traditional heaven sort of thing. When I die, I will return to my Mother, the Earth.

As for consciousness itself, I'm working on accumulating evidence towards body first, then mind, then mind over matter. Not like those philosophical ideas can be proven or not, but they are indeed fun to fuck with. In short, the brain has the capability for higher functioning, and when that is granted, mind over matter is possible. Yes, I consider most animals to be of the same intellect level as us (which is quickly making me a vegan -.-).