Poll: Aion Online, Killer of WoW?!?!
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Agreed, every now and then put a new baddie out there, not exactly mind blowing creativity.Mazty said:
No, it won't kill WoW. People say this every time a new MMO appears. Doesn't do shit.
Fact is the longer WoW keeps going the better it becomes.
Fact is the longer WoW keeps going the better it becomes.
Well, it's a bit much to say WoW does everything right, because that's just not true. No game does everything right, but some do have the sense to not try and do everything right, fucking up the whole project along the way.The Great JT said:
The reason Blizzard has the advantage, I think, lies in the fact that they have learned how to do a lot with little...and do it well. Of course what I am aluding to is the fact that have relatively few games out there, but virtually all of them are what most people consider to be the staples of PC gaming (Diablo, Starcraft, Warcraft). These are all superb games in their own right and the most interesting thing about them, is the fact that none of them seem terribly high budget at the end of the day, certainly nothing like games from another popular developer that needn't be named....*COUGH*EA*COUGH*
Blizzard's windfall of profit from these staple games and their sequels allowed them to put all their heart and soul into the monster formally known as World of Warcraft. They perfected the style of gameplay that WoW utilizes and are able to back it up with near inexhaustable resources, to insure that it continues to remain fresh in a changing industry.
Personally, I don't think WoW is terribly entertaining. I find it to be far to simplistic and repetitive, but then again I play EVE Online, which as some of you might know is different from WoW in most ways. I do, however, fully understand why WoW is so popular and I respect Blizzard's cleverness.
What I don't respect is the fact that all these "WoW-killers" aim to kill the beast by trying to beat it at it's own game. That's like going to Hell and trying to slay Satan with fire...just not going to be an easy fight. If these developers want to kill WoW, they will have to approach the matter from a whole different direction. The trouble is...how do you try something new and revolutionary and actually convince people to break away from the old guard? The first company to figure that riddle out, will be the one to kill WoW.
If anything, Aion will be heroin and WoW will be cocaine. Neither one's really mutually exclusive to the other, and different crowds get addicted to different drugs. Those hooked on WoW will likely stay hooked on WoW, with a possibility of enjoying some Aion on the side.
No it's not enough, it's not a year yet.Abedeus said:
It's not really fair comparing WoW's rise with Aion's so far though, when WoW dropped MMO's were still pretty new and the player bases weren't massive. Besides FFXI I can't think of any that had been about more than 2 years (there must be though). It also moved from West to East rather than the East to West.
Aion is dropping into a ready made market that's enormous. It can get away on not having any catastrophic bugs for the first year to eighteen months. From then on it has to deliver new content and incentives to keep it's players away from the larger WoW, it won't be until the people who bought a year's subscription come up for renewal that anyone will really know how successful Aion will be long term.
Sigh. Another MMO, and another senseless proclamation that this one will be the "WoW killer." The only option for WoW is suicide. I think the only game that has a shot at even 1 million+ subs is TOR, because, well, it's Star Wars.
TBH, though, I think WoW should stay on top. It's not about quantity, it's about quality. Probably 10 million of Wow's players are completely awful at it, and all the terribads were one of the reasons I quit and went back to EQ2, where you're actually punished a bit for being an idiot ( although I admit it's nothing quite as harsh as EQ1 ).
A bad playerbase will ruin an otherwise good game. That's why I want WoW to keep on having the largest playerbase. It's a magnet for morons, and hopefully, it will keep them away from the MMOs that normal, non-terrible people want to play, and it's better for everyone.
TBH, though, I think WoW should stay on top. It's not about quantity, it's about quality. Probably 10 million of Wow's players are completely awful at it, and all the terribads were one of the reasons I quit and went back to EQ2, where you're actually punished a bit for being an idiot ( although I admit it's nothing quite as harsh as EQ1 ).
A bad playerbase will ruin an otherwise good game. That's why I want WoW to keep on having the largest playerbase. It's a magnet for morons, and hopefully, it will keep them away from the MMOs that normal, non-terrible people want to play, and it's better for everyone.
Yeah... Champions, with zero marketing, zero interest even from gold farming sites, little to no promotion or even distributions in other countries than US/UK/Germany/France/Spain and NO PAYPAL PAYMENT OPTIONS. Trust me, if they had added Paypal, at least few thousands of people would buy it. But why bother, when you can't play more than the free month.adledog said:
This probably explains why (apparently) they haven't added any new servers since the beginning of this year.SomeBritishDude said:
And that ALWAYS when a new MMO appears, turns out that a lot of people are "coming from WoW". If WoW was getting better and better, why would they come and beta test in the first place?
Yeah there are people in the game who kinda annoy me by just not being as much of a lore geek as me xD usually the people who end up clicking Brann in the dungeon to tell him to can it so we can move on with the killing when i actually want to hear the story about what is happening and why it is happening^^(major wow lore geek after having played Wc2 Wc3 and wow =)olicon said:
Now i can see what you are saying with social obligation, i dont feel this pressure myself due to the people i play with are kinda close friends who dont nag if i dnt play or anything.
But i dont see any of those hyperactive fuckheads that dont know any of the lore or anything disappearing with aions release because many of them will find it to different with the japanese style graphics etc to different from the soft cozy blanket they have gotten oh so happy with ^^
Personally i will check out Aion if i get to Upgrade my computer anytime soon but ill probably return to wow around/2-months before cataclysm...... (Worgen Looks AWESOME!!!!!)
Because it may be great but people want better. WoW is good but it can't escape the failings of it's own genre i.e. Grinding, Poor graphics, slow combat ect. So, people go to other MMOs hoping to find something that will take all these failings away.Abedeus said:
Most people haven't.
This is mainly for three reasons:
-For the most part no one has come up with something original and game changing enough to pull people away for long.
-WoW is so polished I can not only see my face it, I can see every pimple in high definition. Blizzard are top of polish.
-MMOs are better the more people there are. So the bigger WoW becomes the better it gets.
I don't think it'll be one game that kicks the stool from under WoWs feat. It will always exist in one form, there may be a game that comes close to matching it and then slowly wittles it down over the years, but it's certainly not going to be this game that takes it out.
It won't kill WoW. With luck it will survive WoW, if it delivers good gameplay in a fun world and delivers to players good value for their money. If Aion does anything better that WoW, and there are plenty of ways for WoW to be improved, Bizzard will watch and wait and if the difference truly is an improvement, it will incorporate those changes in the next couple of patches. Does the starting area of the goblins sound familiar *cough* AoC *cough*? PvP improvements WAR made have been overtly ported over, and by the time Cataclysm comes out and I start up my account I hope they'll have WARs open party system incorporated as well. It's great for pugging.
blakmajic said:
I would be playing right now if the server wasnt down
EVE isn't perfect, but have you seen WoW recently? Most of the players are like incredibly foulmouthed five year olds with a superiority complex(es ?).
I was told that Runes of magic was a WoW killer, and yet the World of Warcraft still stands. I don't really think it will die soon unless Blizzard make a very stupid mistake (like try to make the cash cow into a salad) or give up the soul harvest to swallow them all whole.
