Poll: Aion Online, Killer of WoW?!?!

[Charli]

Rule of WoW: Only WoW, can kill WoW.

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I kid seriously, but Im somthing of a coniesseur of MMO games and really, i've yet to find anything I think truly UTTERLY and unbiasedly hooks a player like me into it. Theres many ways to pay the subscribtion, accessable, gives tonnes of stuff to do, active and enthusiastic community (filtering out the many MANY elitest gibbering baboons on the PvP and occasionally PvE side of it...)

I'm not just a WoW junkie, I've tried the best, the free, the subscription, the korean the web browser based, so so many. 3D vs 2D...it goes on.

But WoW still wins, and guess what? Unlike most malcontents, I'm alright with that.

 

[brainless906]

City of Villains/Heroes and War were both better than WoW and they both failed; it is not about quality it is about playerbase and brand recognition.

When WAR was great?

Also, like I've already learned, people are ignorant. Everyone who says "LOLO KOREAN MMO" or "KOREAN GRINDER LOL" is an idiot that can't be talked to.

And more I've learned - people will ignore simple facts, like that Aion has been alive and well for 8 months now (almost 10, what am I saying...) and is doing great. Frankly, almost half of the people coming to Aion from other MMOs are from WoW.

Havent you noticed that everything labeled "WOW killer" is doomed to failure? the only thing big enough and powerful enough to "kill" WOW is.....you guessed it, WOW itself.

People label those games "WoW killer". Not developer.

Who am I even talking to? WoW - PvE "fun game for casuals". Aion - GW/Lineage hybrid with a lot of PvP.

Seriously, Its like wow, with fewer fucktards and griefers.

I am a fan of EVE and I know thats bullshit. Seriously? Have you played the game?

Like 90% of the people that voted "WoW wins again", NO.

haha i like you, be with me or against me you seem to have a solid base to your speech and i respect that.

 

[Macgyvercas]

As Yahtzee so cleverly put it: "No one can make a dent in WoW's monolithic market share because if I took every oppertunity to acquire World of Warcraft free trial CD's I'd have enough to make an attractive fashionable cape, and perhaps a matching hat."

I think WoW will outlive humanity itself.

 

[xavierxenon]

No, it won't kill WoW. From what i've seen Aion looks exactly like every other badly made korean MMO.

This is the attitude i'm talking about. "from WHAT I'VE SEEN" I.E. I'm 2 damn lazy/cheap to give any other game a try, i'll look a screen cap or a video then blow it off as a "Badly made korean mmo"

I've played far too many badly made korean MMO's to waste more money on another one. It's not because i'm too cheap to run multiple MMO's, i do that all the time, it's more because the game should atleast look attractive rather than have the the cheap korean look to it all the time.

They never last, they always tend to have a good number of people flock to them in the beginning and then more than half the player base will die off and go back to other, better games.

 

[Abedeus]

As Yahtzee so cleverly put it: "No one can make a dent in WoW's monolithic market share because if I took every oppertunity to acquire World of Warcraft free trial CD's I'd have enough to make an attractive fashionable cape, and perhaps a matching hat."

I think WoW will outlive humanity itself.

Especially that WoW has only about 6 millions of people now, and Aion BEFORE EU/US release has 4 millions.

Let's face it, you can't be the best forever.

LOLO KOREAN MMO LOLOL

So, we'll be starting today's course by judging the game by the country of origin.

Ubisoft games? Let's give up already. US games? Better let's not run them...

Uhh. Yeah. Not the best thing to do.

 

[Tharwen]

WoW has the graphics to cater to almost all fans' needs. Any other MMO needs to be seen to be using current-gen graphics or it will be considered 'a bad game'. Thus any new MMORPG cannot compete with WoW because it will not be usable by a large percentage of its intended fans because of the new graphics that it needs to employ to gain credibility. This means that WoW has a position that cannot be taken from it by any game released with better graphics than it.

Though saying that would only make it logical that Runscape SHOULD have a larger fanbase, simply because even computer that cant run WoW can run that. I.E. almost any computer.

I didn't mean that the graphics were the only reason WoW is popular, only that it is one of the most limiting factors in the success of all of the others. Also, Runescape sucks balls.

 

[brainless906]

As Yahtzee so cleverly put it: "No one can make a dent in WoW's monolithic market share because if I took every oppertunity to acquire World of Warcraft free trial CD's I'd have enough to make an attractive fashionable cape, and perhaps a matching hat."

I think WoW will outlive humanity itself.

Especially that WoW has only about 6 millions of people now, and Aion BEFORE EU/US release has 4 millions.

Let's face it, you can't be the best forever.

indeed, hear that people 4MILLION BEFORE RELEASE

there still is hope.

 

[Snowalker]

No, I think the only MMO with any chance of giving WoW a run for its money is GW2, and thats because even GW1 has convinced many people it was the better choice.

I Cant WAIT for GW2!!! Though Aion is backed by NCsoft (they back GW1 and GW2) so you'd think some of the fan base might look into Aion (thats how i found it )

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Thats like saying I should like Exteel, or dungeon runners aswell...

Cities of heros/villians and Tabula Rasa were also made by them...

But guess what, different development teams, so I don't really see how Aion reflects Guild Wars in anyway..

P.S. and if you even mention the stupid emote they threw in Guild Wars to promote Aion, I'll slit your throat. I'm not joking, I have a knife.

 

[brainless906]

WoW has the graphics to cater to almost all fans' needs. Any other MMO needs to be seen to be using current-gen graphics or it will be considered 'a bad game'. Thus any new MMORPG cannot compete with WoW because it will not be usable by a large percentage of its intended fans because of the new graphics that it needs to employ to gain credibility. This means that WoW has a position that cannot be taken from it by any game released with better graphics than it.

Though saying that would only make it logical that Runscape SHOULD have a larger fanbase, simply because even computer that cant run WoW can run that. I.E. almost any computer.

I didn't mean that the graphics were the only reason WoW is popular, only that it is one of the most limiting factors in the success of all of the others. Also, Runescape sucks balls.

Lol whether or not Runescape sucks male genitalia is irrelevant i'm afraid

 

[Matzilla]

tbh id only play it over WoW if it costs less but its worth keeping an eye on tho

 

[oneniesteledain]

How about this.

Does any MMO game NEED to topple WoW?

yes, they do. its a mediocre game at bets, with horrible graphics and a fan base thats completely arrogantly stubborn. (though i suppose thats what being a fan is =/)

people have to wake up and notice that this MMO monopoly isnt that amazing... <.<

though now i'm just one of those bitter bastards who seems like he's trying to rebel against society.....oh well...

I was unclear. I meant to ask if any game needs to topple WoW to be successful. I would hardly call what WoW has a monopoly. The largest consumer base is not the same as a monopoly. A monopoly would mean that NO MMO could be successful, because WoW strangles the market. Since there are many other games to choose from, and since Blizzard cannot actively take a role in suppressing development of those games, they don't have a monopoly.

 

[brainless906]

No, I think the only MMO with any chance of giving WoW a run for its money is GW2, and thats because even GW1 has convinced many people it was the better choice.

I Cant WAIT for GW2!!! Though Aion is backed by NCsoft (they back GW1 and GW2) so you'd think some of the fan base might look into Aion (thats how i found it )

...


Thats like saying I should like Exteel, or dungeon runners aswell...

Cities of heros/villians and Tabula Rasa were also made by them...

But guess what, different development teams, so I don't really see how Aion reflects Guild Wars in anyway..

P.S. and if you even mention the stupid emote they threw in Guild Wars to promote Aion, I'll slit your throat. I'm not joking, I have a knife.

MY GOD THERES A PROMOTIONAL EMOTE IN GUILD WARS?! lol sorry.

 

[fix-the-spade]

So anyone else think Aion Can pull it off?

So it's going to kill WoW, just like Planetside, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan and all the rest did.

Blimey, you've got to wonder how World of Warcraft keeps surviving all these crushing defeats.
Tbh Aion is well established in it's own market, but simply by being an eastern RPG it's beating itself into a niche. A big chunk of WoW's success comes from it's recognisable western fantasy setting. Aion's already lumped in with anime and JRPG's before it even arrives, it's not going to rival WoW.

Put it another way, do you know any non gamers that even know Aion exists? I'll bet they know WoW exists.

 

[Nukey]

aion looks better, but wow is a Juggernaut in the gaming industry and it doesn't seem like it going to stop anytime soon.

 

[brainless906]

How about this.

Does any MMO game NEED to topple WoW?

yes, they do. its a mediocre game at bets, with horrible graphics and a fan base thats completely arrogantly stubborn. (though i suppose thats what being a fan is =/)

people have to wake up and notice that this MMO monopoly isnt that amazing... <.<

though now i'm just one of those bitter bastards who seems like he's trying to rebel against society.....oh well...

I was unclear. I meant to ask if any game needs to topple WoW to be successful. I would hardly call what WoW has a monopoly. The largest consumer base is not the same as a monopoly. A monopoly would mean that NO MMO could be successful, because WoW strangles the market. Since there are many other games to choose from, and since Blizzard cannot actively take a role in suppressing development of those games, they don't have a monopoly.

Well now that you clarify yourself i'll respond accordingly
no, they do not need to topple WoW to be successful, as they said they would be fine being 2nd to WoW because even then it would be a win.
however there is some pride to taking down something of a giant dont you think?

 

[Bad Neighbour]

Seem to remember reading somewhere that as a single product WoW makes more money than anything else in any market, ever. There's nothing that can knock it down. Aion might be better, but it wont kill it.

 

[Bigeyez]

WoW has the graphics to cater to almost all fans' needs. Any other MMO needs to be seen to be using current-gen graphics or it will be considered 'a bad game'. Thus any new MMORPG cannot compete with WoW because it will not be usable by a large percentage of its intended fans because of the new graphics that it needs to employ to gain credibility. This means that WoW has a position that cannot be taken from it by any game released with better graphics than it.

Though saying that would only make it logical that Runscape SHOULD have a larger fanbase, simply because even computer that cant run WoW can run that. I.E. almost any computer.

Runescape does have more active accounts then WoW though. Or at least they (Jagex) claim to.

What he is saying is a valid point anyways. Think about it. If more people can play a game it's more likely that more people will play said game. For example not everyone could play Crysis so obviously not every PC owner bought Crysis. If Crysis were playable on any machine, chances are it would have sold more PC copies then it did.

I highly doubt it. WoW is too large in many markets and it is actually a decent game.

But I think the real opposition to Aion killing WoW is coming from the Aion developers themselves, as they are shooting for second place. Here it is:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/93839-Aion-Shooting-For-2nd-Place-To-WoW

Ouch, they need new management >.>

thats a horrible thing to say, though it's prolly because if he said he was going after WoW the game would have much more attention but i really think it would be negatively placed attention.

Thats just them being realistic. No mmo is going to come out and all of a sudden get 11 million suscribers. Thats not going to happen. WoW itself is the example of this. People forget that WoW didn't have 11 million suscribers overnight. It grew and grew and grew until it got to where it is today.

No MMO is going to come in and crush WoW. It's going to take a combination of WoW's fanbase finally coming down (many say it's already at it's peak) and an established mmo growing ever upward to finally unseat WoW as the number one mmo.

 

[Sev72]

As Yahtzee so cleverly put it: "No one can make a dent in WoW's monolithic market share because if I took every oppertunity to acquire World of Warcraft free trial CD's I'd have enough to make an attractive fashionable cape, and perhaps a matching hat."

I think WoW will outlive humanity itself.

Especially that WoW has only about 6 millions of people now, and Aion BEFORE EU/US release has 4 millions.

You know WoW still has over 11 million people right?

Edit:Oh, and the term "kill" is ridiculous. It will always have its hardcore fan base that will never leave. You might do better then it, and even steal its subscribers but you will never kill the game.

 

[Abedeus]

As Yahtzee so cleverly put it: "No one can make a dent in WoW's monolithic market share because if I took every oppertunity to acquire World of Warcraft free trial CD's I'd have enough to make an attractive fashionable cape, and perhaps a matching hat."

I think WoW will outlive humanity itself.

Especially that WoW has only about 6 millions of people now, and Aion BEFORE EU/US release has 4 millions.

Let's face it, you can't be the best forever.

indeed, hear that people 4MILLION BEFORE RELEASE

there still is hope.

No, I think the only MMO with any chance of giving WoW a run for its money is GW2, and thats because even GW1 has convinced many people it was the better choice.

I Cant WAIT for GW2!!! Though Aion is backed by NCsoft (they back GW1 and GW2) so you'd think some of the fan base might look into Aion (thats how i found it )

...


Thats like saying I should like Exteel, or dungeon runners aswell...

Cities of heros/villians and Tabula Rasa were also made by them...

But guess what, different development teams, so I don't really see how Aion reflects Guild Wars in anyway..

P.S. and if you even mention the stupid emote they threw in Guild Wars to promote Aion, I'll slit your throat. I'm not joking, I have a knife.

3 fails in your post. Well, 4.

1. Dungeon Runners are not MMO. They are more like Diablo or Guild Wars - you meet players only in towns, then instances.
2. City of Heroes/Villains was made by Cryptic.
3. Tabula Rasa by Destination Games. Double fail, as those games were only distributed by NCSoft.
4. Aion has quest-based leveling just like Guild Wars has.

As Yahtzee so cleverly put it: "No one can make a dent in WoW's monolithic market share because if I took every oppertunity to acquire World of Warcraft free trial CD's I'd have enough to make an attractive fashionable cape, and perhaps a matching hat."

I think WoW will outlive humanity itself.

Especially that WoW has only about 6 millions of people now, and Aion BEFORE EU/US release has 4 millions.

You know WoW still has over 11 million people right?

Uhm. No. You are the one that doesn't know that WoW China is in Closed Beta because they had to... close down. And 6 millions of people went POOF. There are maybe 60k people in CB right now.

Proves that WoW isn't THAT popular outside of Asia.