Poll: Am I a Bad Person?

[darth.pixie]

Two friends of mine were killed and one was put in a coma by a drunk driver (he later entered a huge depression after nearly dying from the shock). They hadn't been drinking and stopped at the light. He came, didn't stop and hit hard.

I have no sympathy for them. If they were stupid enough to get to the wheel instead of taking a cab (like a responsibile person) then they had it coming, big time.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Wait, what? People wake up from a coma and get fucking charged?

As for your actual point, I can see where you're coming from. I don't know if I'd side with you if it came up, but I can see your point.

He's an American, we don't have free health care over here and someone needs to pay to keep the hooked up to life support >_>

What happens if they're in a coma for 20 years and no one pays?

They pay monthly, not when you wake up I believe and if no one can pay, then they take them off life-support I would imagine or come to some kind of deal with the Insurance company or the victim's family. Needless to say, its a flawed system.

So if you have no family or friends, and no insurance, the hospital takes you off of life support?

That can't be what happens!

If you show no signs of improving and they can't find any legal way to pay for your life-support, then ya, that's what they do. Thankfully, I don't believe it happens often.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

Wait, what? People wake up from a coma and get fucking charged?

As for your actual point, I can see where you're coming from. I don't know if I'd side with you if it came up, but I can see your point.

He's an American, we don't have free health care over here and someone needs to pay to keep the hooked up to life support >_>

What happens if they're in a coma for 20 years and no one pays?

They pay monthly, not when you wake up I believe and if no one can pay, then they take them off life-support I would imagine or come to some kind of deal with the Insurance company or the victim's family. Needless to say, its a flawed system.

So if you have no family or friends, and no insurance, the hospital takes you off of life support?

That can't be what happens!

You underestimate the cruelty of the American healthcare system.

 

[Abedeus]

Why the hell would you pay for THEIR stupidity? It's like trying to fight Darwin by throwing chalk at him.

 

[ImperialSunlight]

No, you're perfectly right and snce you have freedom of opinion, no one should be able to say that your views are wrong just because they're harsh.

 

[Woodsey]

Wait, what? People wake up from a coma and get fucking charged?

As for your actual point, I can see where you're coming from. I don't know if I'd side with you if it came up, but I can see your point.

He's an American, we don't have free health care over here and someone needs to pay to keep the hooked up to life support >_>

What happens if they're in a coma for 20 years and no one pays?

They pay monthly, not when you wake up I believe and if no one can pay, then they take them off life-support I would imagine or come to some kind of deal with the Insurance company or the victim's family. Needless to say, its a flawed system.

So if you have no family or friends, and no insurance, the hospital takes you off of life support?

That can't be what happens!

You underestimate the cruelty of the American healthcare system.

Wait, what? People wake up from a coma and get fucking charged?

As for your actual point, I can see where you're coming from. I don't know if I'd side with you if it came up, but I can see your point.

He's an American, we don't have free health care over here and someone needs to pay to keep the hooked up to life support >_>

What happens if they're in a coma for 20 years and no one pays?

They pay monthly, not when you wake up I believe and if no one can pay, then they take them off life-support I would imagine or come to some kind of deal with the Insurance company or the victim's family. Needless to say, its a flawed system.

So if you have no family or friends, and no insurance, the hospital takes you off of life support?

That can't be what happens!

If you show no signs of improving and they can't find any legal way to pay for your life-support, then ya, that's what they do. Thankfully, I don't believe it happens often.

What the fuck? How does anyone even condone that, let alone allow it to go ahead?

 

[Shirokurou]

So this Tuesday 3 girls went drunk driving at 11 AM and crashed. 1 died 2 are in a coma. One of there friends came around asking for a donation to help pay there medical bills. I declined and said if theyre dumb enough to go drunk driving at 11 in the morning on a snowday when the roads are bad then they can face the consequence and pay for it themselves. I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

Depends on what kind of friends they were. Friends i can forgive even stupidity, acquaintances - not so much.

But if you're asking this question that already makes you a good person overall.

 

[skywalkerlion]

I voted yes but meant to vote no. I would have said the same thing.

 

[Bloodstain]

I think you have a good point.
However, a "No, sorry." would have been enough of an answer, I suppose. Stay respectful, even towards dumb people.

 

[Littaly]

Assuming you didn't know the girls, you may be right but don't say it out loud. As much as it was their own fault, loss of life is never pleasant. To her, her friends death comes first, the hows and whys come second, understandably, it's a touchy subject. Nobody can force you into charity, you donate to whatever you want for whatever reasons you have, but you don't have to go insult her friend. Whether or not it's actually an insult doesn't matter, you should have understood that she would have taken it that way.

I'm not your moral compass though, if you felt you did right then don't worry about it.

 

[Admiral Stukov]

I would probably have said more or less the same thing.
Can't really judge if that makes you a bad person, I have my confirmed dickish moments.

 

[Kapol]

Honestly, having lost family to drunk drivers, I refuse to have sympathy to those who get hurt because they were stupid enough to drink and drive themselves. Not only were the three putting their lives at risk, but they were putting others on the line as well. It just seems lucky they didn't hit someone else and kill them.

So no, you weren't wrong in saying that. I would have done the same. Yea, things may be horrible for them and their families, and that's sad. I don't mean to say that it's a good thing they're in the position they are. But it's their own fault over anyone else's, and I don't see why others should pay for their mistake. As well, I have to wonder if anyone would care if it wasn't three girls, but instead three older men that had been out drinking.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Wait, what? People wake up from a coma and get fucking charged?

As for your actual point, I can see where you're coming from. I don't know if I'd side with you if it came up, but I can see your point.

He's an American, we don't have free health care over here and someone needs to pay to keep the hooked up to life support >_>

What happens if they're in a coma for 20 years and no one pays?

They pay monthly, not when you wake up I believe and if no one can pay, then they take them off life-support I would imagine or come to some kind of deal with the Insurance company or the victim's family. Needless to say, its a flawed system.

So if you have no family or friends, and no insurance, the hospital takes you off of life support?

That can't be what happens!

You underestimate the cruelty of the American healthcare system.

Wait, what? People wake up from a coma and get fucking charged?

As for your actual point, I can see where you're coming from. I don't know if I'd side with you if it came up, but I can see your point.

He's an American, we don't have free health care over here and someone needs to pay to keep the hooked up to life support >_>

What happens if they're in a coma for 20 years and no one pays?

They pay monthly, not when you wake up I believe and if no one can pay, then they take them off life-support I would imagine or come to some kind of deal with the Insurance company or the victim's family. Needless to say, its a flawed system.

So if you have no family or friends, and no insurance, the hospital takes you off of life support?

That can't be what happens!

If you show no signs of improving and they can't find any legal way to pay for your life-support, then ya, that's what they do. Thankfully, I don't believe it happens often.

What the fuck? How does anyone even condone that, let alone allow it to go ahead?

By that point, you're basically brain dead. Some people actually have it in their will not to be placed on life-support and some actually have do not resuscitate orders. And its condoned mainly because the Hospital doesn't run for free. If you allow them to stay on life-support, then you have to make cuts to pay for it. Doctors lose their jobs, maintenance on machines ends up falling apart, less patients can be taken, etc etc. Keeping that one person for free would end up costing everyone, even the people who are meant to treat him. Like I said, if you don't show signs of improvement, then they call it.

No one likes it, I don't, the doctors don't and the governors don't, but at that point, you can't do all that much except do what those girls are currently doing.

 

[kokirisoldier]

Sounds like someone won the Darwin award!

 

[busterkeatonrules]

Edit: And why do so many people vote that he shouldn't say it out loud? If people think I'm a bad person for thinking the way I do, I don't want to associate with them in any case.

Not to mention, if he hadn't made it clear from the start why he didn't donate money, people would only have pestered him for an explainaton anyway. It wasn't cruelty, it was saving time.

 

[faspxina]

You are right but:
Only because you're right doesn't mean it's right. You could've kept your comments to yourself, because I'm sure the two friends who survived have enough guilt on their shoulders to last a lifetime.

 

[Valkyrie101]

What if the others weren't drunk/culpable though? Unlikely, just something that crossed my mind. Even so, the OP was right: it was fucking stupid. No one gets so drunk that they don't understand what they're doing, unless they're so far gone that driving at all would be impossible. They must have known on an intellectual level that it was wrong.

And what kind of a time is 11 am for this? Seems more like an evening thing.

 

[drisky]

You have a right to not donate, but It wasn't a good idea to so aggressively pass judgment on the injured and dead, you could of handled it with more subtlety.

 

[dakorok]

Why should I pay for their self-inflicted injuries?
These girls were grade-A stupid.
If it was someone who had been hurt badly because a drunk crashed into them, I'd donate whatever I could afford.

 

[lewism247]

So this Tuesday 3 girls went drunk driving at 11 AM and crashed. 1 died 2 are in a coma. One of there friends came around asking for a donation to help pay there medical bills. I declined and said if theyre dumb enough to go drunk driving at 11 in the morning on a snowday when the roads are bad then they can face the consequence and pay for it themselves. I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

Yes, yes you are.

Granted, what they did was stupid but the way you reacted was very disrespectful and insensitive. Flip the roles around, two of your friends are comatose, one dead. You start a whip around to raise some funds for them, a guy turns and says "They got what they deserved, I'm not helping you". See what I mean?