Poll: Are you finished with Bioware now?
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Poll Response: Depends
I will give a lot of thought before buying anything new from Bioware, and will not pay for it more than $20-$30, unless it can match Baldur's Gate or at least first Mass Effect. Joccaren pointed out what is wrong with ME3, and I also agree with endtherapture. Bioware is not the same studio it used to be, and last year it was blown out of the water by the "newcomers" and indie developers - Witcher 2, Deus Ex, and Bastion were leagues above the DA2 (these are just three games) and I've had much more fun with them than with ME2 or ME3 so far. Throw in the fact that people leave Bioware out of their own will and talk how studio has lost it's old spirit. Recently they lost their long time head writer, who was replaced by a person which thinks that gameplay should be optional and dislikes to play games in general. Origin is another issue; I prefer to play RPGs and FPS games on PC, while action and adventure games on the console. If I want to play anything new from EA and avoid Origin, I will have to do it on PS3 on which Bioware games had more issues than versions for other platforms. There is also marketing recently applied by Bioware: awesome button, "look, look it plays just like the old one!" desperate videos for DA2, and plain lies about choices that matter and that origin is not necessary for retail version for ME3.
Bioware has changed to the worse, and their games show it. Other new developers and ones that continue being as good as they used to be deserve my money and time more than Bioware does.
I will give a lot of thought before buying anything new from Bioware, and will not pay for it more than $20-$30, unless it can match Baldur's Gate or at least first Mass Effect. Joccaren pointed out what is wrong with ME3, and I also agree with endtherapture. Bioware is not the same studio it used to be, and last year it was blown out of the water by the "newcomers" and indie developers - Witcher 2, Deus Ex, and Bastion were leagues above the DA2 (these are just three games) and I've had much more fun with them than with ME2 or ME3 so far. Throw in the fact that people leave Bioware out of their own will and talk how studio has lost it's old spirit. Recently they lost their long time head writer, who was replaced by a person which thinks that gameplay should be optional and dislikes to play games in general. Origin is another issue; I prefer to play RPGs and FPS games on PC, while action and adventure games on the console. If I want to play anything new from EA and avoid Origin, I will have to do it on PS3 on which Bioware games had more issues than versions for other platforms. There is also marketing recently applied by Bioware: awesome button, "look, look it plays just like the old one!" desperate videos for DA2, and plain lies about choices that matter and that origin is not necessary for retail version for ME3.
Bioware has changed to the worse, and their games show it. Other new developers and ones that continue being as good as they used to be deserve my money and time more than Bioware does.
I am probably not, unless the next game is Jade Empire 2, and even then they'll probably ruin it.
Except for for Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age: Origins, I like their games.
I'll agree that ME3's ending would've been better with some closure, but is it really worth all this constant bitching?
I'll agree that ME3's ending would've been better with some closure, but is it really worth all this constant bitching?
Mass Effect 3 was an incredible game- excluding, of course, the controversial ending. I'm of the belief that the ending is not how it appears, and that there's more on the way- but hey, that's my opinion and I'm not here to preach the theories I buy into.
At the end of the day, I still love Mass Effect. I still love the universe, the lore, the characters, and as for the ending, well... Putting aside the fact that I believe there will be more to "explain" it and add to it, if all else fails, my imagination can fill in the blanks. Imperfect solution, yes- but even if that ending is exactly as it appears, with no hidden depth or surprises, the truly awful ending does not ruin the rest of the games for me.
So no. I'm not finished with Bioware. (I've not played DA2, by the way.)
At the end of the day, I still love Mass Effect. I still love the universe, the lore, the characters, and as for the ending, well... Putting aside the fact that I believe there will be more to "explain" it and add to it, if all else fails, my imagination can fill in the blanks. Imperfect solution, yes- but even if that ending is exactly as it appears, with no hidden depth or surprises, the truly awful ending does not ruin the rest of the games for me.
So no. I'm not finished with Bioware. (I've not played DA2, by the way.)
I wouldn't say it was just Mass Effect that will stop me buying their games. DA2 ruined the Dragon Age franchise, the KOTOR franchise has been ruined and sent to die as an MMO and now the ending of ME3 destroyed the whole universe and made all the previous games pointless. If i do buy games from them in the future they most certainly won't be on release.
The future of C&C has everything to do with BioWare since they are making the next game in the series.DoPo said:
I'm unsure, while I detest ME3's ending (well most of the game actually) they made ME2/ME1 which I enjoyed so it really depends on how they handle this "Retake ME3" stuff.
OK, I didn't know that, however, sanquin's post indicates he had bad experiences with C&C games[footnote]I haven't played anything after Generals, nor have I been interested, so I don't know the overall quality of the games[/footnote] and somehow connected them with Dragon Age and Mass Effect. Furthermore, sanquin explicitly mentioned C&C 4, which is not and has never been connected with BioWare, to my knowledge. I find it hard to believe that he is disturbed by the quality of a game that has not been released, nor do we have any news to use as basis of speculation.Ironside said:
Hell no, they are making C&C: Generals 2.. which i have waited for a very long time 
and i believe in BioWare. They still have some of the best games to this day.
and i believe in BioWare. They still have some of the best games to this day.
i think i enjoyed ME3 a lot more than some, simply because i had the lowest expectations for a BW game to date.
It was by no means great, but Krogan/Salirian Geth/Quarian choices give me some taste of ME1 irriversable choices.
all in all, not the BW i loved, but not the demons theyre made out to be. I'll see what they come up with
It was by no means great, but Krogan/Salirian Geth/Quarian choices give me some taste of ME1 irriversable choices.
all in all, not the BW i loved, but not the demons theyre made out to be. I'll see what they come up with
Depends. I'm pretty sure the next game coming out from them is C&C. Well, it's not really coming out from them, it's coming out from a rebranded Victory Games.
I can safely say that I won't be getting that, but that's because I'm not a fan of RTS...es.
We'll have to see how Dragon Age 3 is. Dragon Age 2 was rushed out the door and, well there are some technical issues that lead me to believe Mass Effect 3 might've had a similar issue, though not as obvious, hard to tell.
I'm not "done" with them because of the ending of Mass Effect 3 though. My faith is a little shaken due to the fact that I think the yearly release cycle is starting to affect the quality of their games. As I said it was highly evident in Dragon Age 2 and I think it shows a little bit in Mass Effect 3.
So, it depends on how the next game looks.
I can safely say that I won't be getting that, but that's because I'm not a fan of RTS...es.
We'll have to see how Dragon Age 3 is. Dragon Age 2 was rushed out the door and, well there are some technical issues that lead me to believe Mass Effect 3 might've had a similar issue, though not as obvious, hard to tell.
I'm not "done" with them because of the ending of Mass Effect 3 though. My faith is a little shaken due to the fact that I think the yearly release cycle is starting to affect the quality of their games. As I said it was highly evident in Dragon Age 2 and I think it shows a little bit in Mass Effect 3.
So, it depends on how the next game looks.
Yeah I'm done with Bioware, the only thing that could make me love them again is a PROPER KoToR OR Jade Empire 2 (and an excellent sequel, not some half assed thing like what they did with Dragon Age 2)
People voting "NO" just because of ME3's ending are ridiculous. It's not even THAT bad! It's certainly bad, but "I'm done with you forever!" bad? Not even close. Besides, the rest of the game was OUTSTANDING. Anyone arguing otherwise loses all credibility.
Having done a good job up until the mistake doesn't absolve them having to fix it. Really wish people would stop making that claim. And I'm not "just voting no" because of the ending, I'm stating to anyone who will listen that if they don't give me the game I paid for that I'm never going to pay them again.MetallicaRulez0 said:
They gave you the game you paid for. It was a great game. The last 5 minutes were bad, but that's true of MANY good games.Emiscary said:
Besides, what would you have them do? Retcon an ending with DLC? That's messy and makes no sense.
Right now, 38% say "Yes, I am done with Bioware". You wanna take a bet that every single one of those will still buy their next game?
Geeze, people..
Geeze, people..