Is there a way to monitor/log that kind of info? I'm curious about this now.Denamic said:How many MB of RAM a program takes is a terrible way of measuring how much resources it takes. In fact, it isn't a method of measuring performance at all. It's easy to force purge shit into the swap file, reducing the RAM footprint. But that is anything but a performance boost. RAM is fucking fast. HDDs aren't. Even SSDs doesn't hold a candle to it. You get the best possible performance when programs run entirely in RAM. Empty RAM is useless RAM. As long as there's a buffer zone for new programs, it's generally best to use up as much RAM as possible instead of using the swap, which laypersons tend to perceive as bad. "This program takes up 300MB of RAM! Such bloatware!" etc.frizzlebyte said:My Norton is using 5 MB of memory right now, which is barely on the radar, as far as I'm concerned. Not really resource heavy since the 2009 version revamp, and Norton has saved my hide on more than one occasion.Alfador_VII said:Norton/Symantec stuff is ridiculously resource heavy, and I don't see the point of anything else you have to pay for.
And this is a recommendation from someone who used to swear Norton was in league with the devil, due to aforementioned resource-use issues.
Anyway, point is, never use RAM usage for measuring performance. For anything.
For measuring AV software, it would be the added memory bandwidth usage and CPU load during certain operations. An internet traffic monitoring tool may not be noticeable at low speeds, but easily could choke up your computer when you're transferring at some 10MB/s, despite being under at under 10MB RAM usage. That's not good if you've got a 100Mbit connection, or are transferring things through a LAN connection.
Sorry third person to say Linux so I am gonna totally steal that wind and leave this hereYou sneaky ninja you. Diving out of the trees and swiping the wind from my sails.
Sweet, it looks like F-secure is pretty good according to the 2012 data, as much as I hate charter, props for this.snave said:http://www.av-comparatives.org/detection-test/
The task manager has a resource monitor that lets you see basic memory bandwidth usage and HDD/SSD read/write speeds. I prefer Process Explorer for more detailed information. It's also useful for a variety of things, as you can see the resources taken up by specific threads in an .exe file. You can even pause and kill them without shutting down the process itself. Fantastic for manually removing annoying adware and malware .dlls in explorer.exefrizzlebyte said:Is there a way to monitor/log that kind of info? I'm curious about this now.
Also, I've never really noticed it bogging down my net connection, or my computer during file transfers of any kind. It usually scans files after I've downloaded them (which is a security risk in itself, but I don't know of any AV that actively scans incoming file downloads), and browsing doesn't *seem* affected.
The reason I like Norton is that I can just set it and forget it, and it does an adequate job of getting out of my way when I'm using the computer, and handles security issues on its own. A lot of the free ones (which I used to religiously use before rediscovering Norton in '09) don't, and require you to manually set permissions and firewall rules, which when I'm trying to work (or play) is a distraction rather than a power-user perk.
Just downloaded Process Explorer. Looks like (if I'm reading correctly) the process that I can ID as Norton's is actually taking up more like 20 MB of RAM, and maybe doing lots of HD I/Os, as well.Denamic said:The task manager has a resource monitor that lets you see basic memory bandwidth usage and HDD/SSD read/write speeds. I prefer Process Explorer for more detailed information. It's also useful for a variety of things, as you can see the resources taken up by specific threads in an .exe file. You can even pause and kill them without shutting down the process itself. Fantastic for manually removing annoying adware and malware .dlls in explorer.exefrizzlebyte said:Is there a way to monitor/log that kind of info? I'm curious about this now.
Also, I've never really noticed it bogging down my net connection, or my computer during file transfers of any kind. It usually scans files after I've downloaded them (which is a security risk in itself, but I don't know of any AV that actively scans incoming file downloads), and browsing doesn't *seem* affected.
The reason I like Norton is that I can just set it and forget it, and it does an adequate job of getting out of my way when I'm using the computer, and handles security issues on its own. A lot of the free ones (which I used to religiously use before rediscovering Norton in '09) don't, and require you to manually set permissions and firewall rules, which when I'm trying to work (or play) is a distraction rather than a power-user perk.
I used to use it all the time, and it worked okay. Like you, though, Norton works good enough for me. I like Webroot too, if you'd ever be interested. It's pretty light on resources from what I can see.Souplex said:What's this "Avast" thing?
It's leading the polls but I have never heard of it.
I also haven't heard of Windows Defender or Avira either.
Especially surprising since one of them has Windows in the name.
I use Norton, and have no real complaints.