Poll: Bin laden death in Video game

[Cliff_m85]

Well, thats just bad taste. Right after he died even, I mean thats awOF COURSE ITS FINE ITS OSAMA BIN LADDEN!

Note: I am American.


Here's how we act when a tragedy/achievement occurs.

1) Shock and awe.
2) Marketing.
3) Mass Buying.
4) Calming.
5) Realizing how much we spent on tat.

9/11 = Shock, sadness, televised donations.....coffee table books, hunks of rubble on Ebay, shirts, coins, plates, posters, magnets, hats, flags, bigger flags, biggerer flags, statues, pins.......anger at WTC not being rebuilt followed by understanding of government ineptitude.......selling most of the 9/11 stuff on Ebay.

USAMA death = Joy, Happiness, finally being able to spell his name properly again because his first name had "USA" in it and we're children (freedom fries, liberty cabbage)....video games, posters, books, movies, television interviews, shirts, pins, magnets, coffee mugs, flags, bigger flags, biggerer flags, coins, posters.....realizing that terrorism isn't dead....realizing how many rights were taken for 'false security' due to him.......selling all the junk on Ebay.

 

[teebeeohh]

why do i get the feeling that despite the obvious shit this is going to be it will sell well enough to turn a nice profit?

oh and regarding the holocaust simulator: that actually might make for good game if done well, although no studio with the experience and resources to do it well will touch this.

 

[TheRealCJ]

Only if, and ONLY IF, you have to defeat him once, and then he runs away and you have to defeating him AGAIN in a Quad-minigun-armed mecha suit.

It's only fair.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

It's not wrong, but it's disrespectful. Not to Osama, no, but to the American people. Remember all those songs about being patriotic taking advantage of the American music market after 9/11? This seems like a similar idea- abuse the national furor to sell games to people who want to feel like big damn heroes and kill Osama. It'll likely be a crap game, but they assume people will buy it anyway.

 

[thiosk]

No, just no. And I'm about as probama antisama as you can get.

Helicoptering in and shooting unarmed people in the face is, however justified it may be, not suitable or appropriate content for a game.

Only if, and ONLY IF, you have to defeat him once, and then he runs away and you have to defeating him AGAIN in a Quad-minigun-armed mecha suit.

It's only fair.

And it should be at least as large as collosi.

Spoiler: shadow of the bin laden

I could do better but im way too lazy to spend time on this.

 

[icame]

If you're not going to respect the dead can you at least ignore them?

This just seems fucking awful to me.

Why respect those in death that could not be respected in life?

 

[Derek Westlund]

why should we respect the dead

anything having to do with the policy of how to treat the dead is for the living they left behind and all osama left behind is terrorists and they only deserve a bullet to the head (as with any extremist in my opinion)

 

[ProfessorLayton]

Honestly, he was a very evil man and got everything that was coming to him, but didn't we even respect his religious beliefs after we killed him? He was bad and I hate him just as much as everyone else, but we're supposed to be the good guys here and doing stuff like this so soon afterwards would be like if they made a 9/11 game right after they crashed planes into the Twin Towers... you see what I mean here?

 

[thiosk]

why should we respect the dead

anything having to do with the policy of how to treat the dead is for the living they left behind and all osama left behind is terrorists and they only deserve a bullet to the head (as with any extremist in my opinion)

Calling for the execution of all extremists is rather extreme, in of itself.

Just saying.

 

[Dfskelleton]

It's going to suck if they made it in a week.
Well, someone posted earlier the Wolfenstein 3D Mecha Hitler boss fight. Can we fight Mecha Bin Laden please? Who cares how historically inaccurate it would be, it would be awesome.
It's simple: Bin Laden was an evil man. Not only did he murder thousands of people, but tricked men of his own religion to do it for him. I think we can agree that we all hated the sick bastard. He's caused all of us (in America, that is) uncountable amounts of pain and grief. What's so bad about using video games to make fun of him? Hell, I won't play it, but I don't see a whole lot wrong with it.

 

[ThisIsSnake]

There were tons of games released shortly after the 9th of November, depicting killing Osama in various different ways.

There are also plenty of game mods (and youtube videos) of people recreating 9/11.

The main issue I see is if this gets enough publicity to incite rage in the middle east leading to more deaths on embassies etc.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

"BRIAN BOYD

WHILE THE blood was still drying on the floors of the Abbottabad compound where Osama bin Laden was shot dead, there were already advance plans to rush-release a ?commemorative? video game detailing the dramatic events of last Sunday night.

A US video games company, Kuma Games, will have its The Death of Osama bin Laden game available for purchase this Saturday, less than a week after the killing.

The game will allow users to take the role of a United States navy seal who travels to Abbottabad to break into bin Laden?s compound. Players must land a helicopter and shoot guards before coming face-to-face with bin Laden.

Kuma Games created a Saddam-Hussein-capturing video game just after the Iraqi leader was taken into custody. Previous ?Kuma War? titles have been based on real battles in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Kuma Games says the kill-Osama video game is not disrespectful or mocking in nature. Rather it is a tribute to those engaged in the front line against al-Qaeda.

?At Kuma, we are sensitive and respectful of American and coalition soldiers and the sacrifices they are making every day,? says Keith Halper, Kuma chief executive. ?We hope that by telling their stories with such a powerful medium that we enable the American public to gain a better appreciation of the conflicts and the dangers they face.?

The company rejects claims of tasteless exploitation and ?cashing in?, saying this is an important historical event and that in all its video games it strives for accuracy by using extensive background information such as satellite photos and US department of defence records.

The Death of Osama bin Laden is expected to be one of the biggest selling game titles of the year."

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2011/0505/1224296144924.html

Appologies if this has already come up, but what do you reckon? is it inappropriate or does the company have every right to produce this game in light of recent events?

Did you ever hear about the Kennedy assassination game?These reenactments are often cheaply made and taken off the market soon after.

 

[Nixzilla]

Meanwhile 6 Days In Fallujah will never be released.

this is bs i wish they would of released this

 

[Hatter]

Yes they have every right to do it. It's now a historical event. We make games about WWII don't we? How would this be different?

Millions of good people died in one of those events, a couple of major ass-holes died in the other. Sounds pretty different if you ask me .

 

[Kathinka]

Yes they have every right to do it. It's now a historical event. We make games about WWII don't we? How would this be different?

how about a game where you have to hijack some planes and ram some certain high buildings with them then? historic event, right?

as for the thread: well, what the guys before me said. plus that it's obviously a nice way to cement a picture very positive towards the u.s. in this whole affair, if accurate or not nobody will remember. everybody will think: that's the way it happened.

Yes how about that? I'd play it if it looked like a well designed game. Should we just pretend it didn't happen? That any inclusion of something about 9/11 was crossing the line? The way I view these things is that you can make a game about ANYTHING YOU WANT. Doesn't mean it will sell well, but you shouldn't be stopped for making it.

i agree as far as that i would not oppose it if the game in question would be well designed and handle the critical issue maturely and in a sensible way.
what we have here though is obviously just the attempt to make some quick profit with some shoddy game that in all probability will distort the truth vigorously.

so where to draw the line? there was this once economy game once, named "concentration camp manager". and it was exactly what it says on the tin. i think we can agree that this kind of thing is not cool^^ hard to find a good middle ground..

The only thing I can say is that I feel EVERYTHING should be fair game and it once again comes back to the individual. If you don't like it, then don't play it.

it's not only that i wouldn't like to play a game where i manage a concentration camp, i utterly resent the idea of such a travesty existing!

and sorry if that sounds offensive, but i believe if you think that it's fine that there is a game that tries to sell the player the genocide of millions of innocents as a good and desirable thing, then you need professional help.

Why thank you for that medical assessment. I'll be sure to take it into account.

On topic: Yes YOU don't like it, so of course it shouldn't exist. I don't like seafood, so by that logic I should be pandered to and have it removed from existence.

no, you don't get it, not one bit. seafood is not my kind of thing, but if some people like it, they should have it.
however,

it's not only that i wouldn't like to play a game where i manage a concentration camp, i utterly resent the idea of such a travesty existing!

I think you could make a very interesting and moving game out of that idea.

of course one could make an actually good game out of it, there is a lot of potential for deep characters and such, emotional fuel by showing the unimaginable horrors..i was refering to some old game that pretty much without an ounce of irony sold the whole holocaust as a good idea.

No I'm not saying it's a good thing. What I'm saying is that just because it's a bad thing, that isn't reason enough for it not to exist.

so..you are saying that there is nothing wrong with it. (promoting and advertising the holocaust and millions of murders as a good thing.) as i said^^

As I said above. It's not a good thing. BUT that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist!

and that is becaaaaause...?

(i'm really curious now. what, WHAT could possibly warrant the existence of something so horrible and damaging like that game)

OK so this game you think the world has no need of should be burnt from existence. Much like all the books the Nazi's burnt yes?

you failed to respond to the question.

and further there is a difference between burning books with content that is undesirable for your evil system and banning a game that advertises just this evil system and violates the rights of men. the books the nazis burned didn't harm anyone. this game in question promotes hatred, murder, intolerance and injustice.
is it really that hard to gasp that promoting and calling for hatred, murder, intolerance and injustice should not be allowed?
how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

Alright. Let's do this.
The question was "Why should this game exist"
My answer. This game should exist because it was made by normal people who are obviously intelligent enough to code a game, and because to censor it in any way (i.e banning) would be against freedom of expression and the consumer's freedom of choice to choose what they play.

The game does not advertise this evil system. It's a resource management game with that skin over it. And a violation of the rights of men?? It is a violation of the rights of men to not allow me to play it.
The books the Nazi's burnt didn't harm anyone? Correct. And neither did this game.
It apparently is that hard to grasp.

And I do mind you asking how old I am. Because it's implying that you think I'm some stupid 12 year old who plays Black Ops and is a Nazi sympathizer.

i'm glad you bring the freedom of expression and the right of the programmers into this. the thing you have to understand is, that their rights end where the rights of other people begin. you have the right to walk out of your house, down the street and everywhere you please, no one can stop you, and that's a good thing. however, even if it should be allowed by your logic, you can not walk into a strangers house, help yourself to some dinner and sit down and watch tv on his couch. your freedom to go everywhere you want ends where his right to not have his home invaded begins.

same as the guy who owns house, fridge and tv i have the right to live without fear of persecution, without being threatened to be murdered and without being slandered and branded as an inferior sub-human. their right to make videogames ended where my rights began.

don't get me wrong, i oppose censorship in any way and i'm fiercly liberal. but part of fiercly fighting for my rights is understanding that others have rights too and that those are the boundaries of my freedom. if you don't apply that logic, you could argue that it's fine when the ku klux klan burns black people, it's their freedom of expression.

i don't think you are neither stupid nor a nazi sympathizer, i'm just genuienly curious.

 

[Nouw]

Meanwhile 6 Days In Fallujah will never be released.

Goddamn...

I think being tasteless as it would be, would be about the same as Duke Nukem or Bulletstorm. designed to be tasteless.

I'm not so sure if it'd be as funny though. Duke Nukem is designed to be a joke and tease at other games.

 

[Antari]

Whatever, let them make it. Both sides will be insulting eachother for decades to come so we might as well start on it properly.

 

[rokkolpo]

If you're not going to respect the dead can you at least ignore them?

This just seems fucking awful to me.

Why respect those in death that could not be respected in life?

Then don't.
I just gave you my opinion.
I think it's in awful bad taste to do such a thing.

 

[Dr. Crawver]

I doubt it could be any decent homage anyway as it's made in a week to two, it will be a cash in, nothing more. This is the lowest of the low

 

[Conn1496]

It's not tasteless or anything, it's just plain stupid. We don't want to kill Bin Laden in games (but if you do, dig through Newgrounds. There's a good couple. lol.) when we can kill terrorist mutant rape-lizard zombies from Uranus in the next installment of "Butt ships and the intergalactic fart mahine". What I'm trying to get across as a whole, is that, sure it's fun, but we want something original. A good 70% or more are fed up of generic war games. Sure, feel free to have a game in which you kill Osama, but that idea died out while he was ALIVE. What we want is intergalactic laser mutant sheep with orangutan butlers that shoot acid out of their nostrils. NOW YOU TRY TO TELL ME THAT WOULD NOT BE COOL.