Seiman supposedly has plenty of protein in it, and you don't see men getting sucked off in public.Gilhelmi said:
Poll: Breast feeding
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At a risk of sounding childish myself, if I were breastfeeding (under a blanket- naturally) in a restuarant and some guy comes up and asked me to stop, I would probably reply with a less-than-graceful `Clear off`.Helmholtz Watson said:
When you've got kids you've got other things to think about than strangers getting all precious because they can't look away. Nobody forces you to look.
22 year old woman here, not teenage boy.KingsGambit said:
Biological purpose is what they were put there for. Not every society sexualises breasts. Ours does- and while I'll accept that when I'm sitting in the garden and it's boiling out I can't take off my shirt while my guy friends can- breastfeeding is legal. If you don't like it- Don't look.
I find nothing wrong with a woman breast feeding in public. It's natural, breast milk contains the right mixture of proteins for humans. It's not something I like to watch so I do tend to look away, but that's just me being kinda awkward.
Now if I didn't have an opinion the only thing it would take to convince me would be the question of what I prefer. A woman discretely breast feeding her kid in public or a baby screaming his lungs out because he's hungry. I will easily prefer a woman breast feeding over the screaming baby.
Now if I didn't have an opinion the only thing it would take to convince me would be the question of what I prefer. A woman discretely breast feeding her kid in public or a baby screaming his lungs out because he's hungry. I will easily prefer a woman breast feeding over the screaming baby.
Do you also take issue with animals in fields (cows etc.) suckling their young as you go past in a car/bus/train?TestECull said:
Either way, unless it's illegal no-ones opinion on the matter would stop me from feeding my child.
I personally don't give a damn, I was explaining why it's generally frowned on and I can see the point. I realise it is a woman's prerogative to tell people to back off, and fair though it might be, I think ignoring the fact that breasts do have a sexual purpose in addition to their biological one is naive, bordering on foolish (this isn't intended as an insult). Saying people are or aren't "forced" to look is irrelevant. At the most fundamental level, men are aroused by the sight of them, hence the laws/rules/morals on decency. Whether the mother appreciates it or not it can and often does make other people extremely uncomfortable.Phasmal said:
PS. To return to your point about using a blanket, or if a venue was considerate and offered a more secluded area to offer a mother privacy and comfort, then I would suggest that more than satisfies any notions of decency.
It's much healthier for the baby and promotes bonding between the mother and baby. There is a big movement in the NHS at the moment to get mothers to breast feed because quite frankly its so much better for both the baby and the mother.
I guess guys need to think about what is best for the children rather than there own personal embarrassment.
Taken from the NHS website:
All those benefits you would deny the child and the mother because you get a little blushy when you see a boob? -.- Good show.
Technically you are saying you would rather increase the risk that a woman gets cancer than you could possibly see a naked boob in public.
I guess guys need to think about what is best for the children rather than there own personal embarrassment.
Taken from the NHS website:
All those benefits you would deny the child and the mother because you get a little blushy when you see a boob? -.- Good show.
Technically you are saying you would rather increase the risk that a woman gets cancer than you could possibly see a naked boob in public.
I'm not ignoring it at all, I'm saying that if you're so uncontrollably aroused by breasts you can't help but stare awkwardly when a woman is feeding her child, the problem is not with the woman- so she isn't the one who should have to restrict the feeding of her child.KingsGambit said:
If a man sees a woman breastfeeding and is aroused, then what? The world doesn't explode, he might feel awkward, but he can just look away.
If I can accept that I have to be uncomfortably hot sometimes cause I cant take my shirt off on a sunny day like dudes can, dudes can accept that if I choose to pop out a sprog, it's not their right to judge where I feed said sprog.
This.manic_depressive13 said:
Add to it that there are many people who impose the sexual functions of the breast (which is a cultural function which varies from culture to culture) above the biological function of the breast, and that's where trouble comes in. Breasts are biological objects first - storing of milk for feeding infants - before they are a sexual object.
Yeah, by Islamic standards women should cover their hair because their hair can and most likely will cause arousal in men.KingsGambit said:
You know what turns me on? Necks. And earlobes. They should be covered up, cover 'em up so I don't have to suffer being all aroused!
Breasts are only made more taboo and sexualised by saying they're something we have to cover up. I get awkward around breastfeeding women because I worry if I look in their direction they'll feel like I'm a pervert or something. They probably won't, but I've been told that BOOBS = SEX all my life, despite the fact that in practice, necks and ears get a lot more action (that's not just me, right? Right, guys? >_>)
So, yeah, liberate the boobies! Let's have 'em all o'er the place! If we could just get used to seeing them all the time they wouldn't be anywhere near as much of a big deal. In fact, like you said, bodies in general can have a sexual effect, but it's not illegal to go outside not covered head to toe, so... seems silly to pick and choose? I don't know.
All that is irrelevant, No one is suggesting that women shouldn't breast feed. they're only suggesting have a little consideration for other people and try not to do it in a public place in front of strangers.Moonlight Butterfly said:
When your at home feel free to breast feed whoever you want. But when you go outside just bring a bottle of it with you so that if there isn't anywhere more secluded and out of the way you can go you can feed from a bottle. The baby is still be breast feeding over 90% of the time. But on the odd occasion when you on a bus or whatever he can drink the same breast milk out of a bottle.
"Just use a pump!"...
I love experts who know nothing about their subject, have no interest in learning anything about it, and yet want the right to sneer dismissively at people because they have the answers.
So, here's a few things.
One, breast pumps are expensive. Good ones cost about as much as your game console, and they require far more maintenance to use in a comfortable and sanitary fashion. Time and money. Which is one thing if, say, it's a matter of a working mother who needs nutrition to be available to her child while she's away; it's quite another if it's just the matter of offending the sensibilities of self-centered prudes who think the world caters to them, an outlook whose comparison to a nursing child seems more than slightly ironic.
Two, not every woman can use a breast pump. Expressing milk can be difficult. Some women have to take classes just to learn how to feed their child, and some end up giving up and using formula because they just can't do it. This is a good part of the reason groups like "La Leche League" exist. And if feeding a child from your body is hard, just try feeding a machine- the maternal feelings necessary can be rather difficult to summon.
Three, bottle feeding can be a lot more difficult than you would think. Milk has to be kept fresh, and then it usually needs to be warmed. Depending on the age of the child, you may need specific bottle tips to keep the fluid flowing at the right rate and prevent the child from taking in too much air. So there's a whole other set of gear... which could, again, be completely unnecessary if uncomfortable people who feel no one owes human infants any consideration since they aren't helpless crying infants anymore (more or less) could use their mighty neck muscles to turn their heads forty-five degrees.
In short, the ability to feed a child, including in public, is a basic function useful to the existence of the human race. The attitude that those performing such a simple act should bend over backwards to avoid offending you is something the human race is progressing beyond with or without you.
I love experts who know nothing about their subject, have no interest in learning anything about it, and yet want the right to sneer dismissively at people because they have the answers.
So, here's a few things.
One, breast pumps are expensive. Good ones cost about as much as your game console, and they require far more maintenance to use in a comfortable and sanitary fashion. Time and money. Which is one thing if, say, it's a matter of a working mother who needs nutrition to be available to her child while she's away; it's quite another if it's just the matter of offending the sensibilities of self-centered prudes who think the world caters to them, an outlook whose comparison to a nursing child seems more than slightly ironic.
Two, not every woman can use a breast pump. Expressing milk can be difficult. Some women have to take classes just to learn how to feed their child, and some end up giving up and using formula because they just can't do it. This is a good part of the reason groups like "La Leche League" exist. And if feeding a child from your body is hard, just try feeding a machine- the maternal feelings necessary can be rather difficult to summon.
Three, bottle feeding can be a lot more difficult than you would think. Milk has to be kept fresh, and then it usually needs to be warmed. Depending on the age of the child, you may need specific bottle tips to keep the fluid flowing at the right rate and prevent the child from taking in too much air. So there's a whole other set of gear... which could, again, be completely unnecessary if uncomfortable people who feel no one owes human infants any consideration since they aren't helpless crying infants anymore (more or less) could use their mighty neck muscles to turn their heads forty-five degrees.
In short, the ability to feed a child, including in public, is a basic function useful to the existence of the human race. The attitude that those performing such a simple act should bend over backwards to avoid offending you is something the human race is progressing beyond with or without you.
Some of those benefits come from taking it directly from the breast. If women store up too much milk it can increase the risk of breast cancer.Skipper zammo said:
I just really don't see how you could possibly consider your own embarrassment more important than the health of a mother and a child.
After all you are all so keen to see boobies in videogames
I'm sorry, where did that come from?Moonlight Butterfly said:After all you are all so keen to see boobies in videogames
From what part of my post did you glean that I'm keen on seeing boobies in my video games?
Now i;m not gonna blame you for not having read my first post, but if you had you'd see that i'm in fact not bothered by breast feeding. I was just making suggestions in order to help people that are. People are irrational sometimes and I can sympathise with that. And like I said all I was suggesting is that maybe on the odd occasion where it's likely to bother people maybe you could not breast you child right then.
I was never breast fed neither were my sisters and we're all healthy except for my asthma. I really don't think occasionally drinking milk that's not from a tit is going to have any real negative affect on a baby.
I don't think it's a problem, but I know other might find something wrong with it. So if there's a cloth or garment that a woman can wear where they can comfortably feed the child in public without displaying the feeding to others, I think this wouldn't be so much of an issue.
Something like this.
[http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/Gbuss88/?action=view&current=Bebe-Au-Lait-Nursing-Cover.jpg]
Something like this.
[http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/Gbuss88/?action=view&current=Bebe-Au-Lait-Nursing-Cover.jpg]
If women can whip out a breast and feed a kid because it's a natural thing, then why can't a man whip out his thing and pee ...peeing is natural too lol. But in all seriousness I think if a woman has to breastfeed in public (and they dont have a bottle) then they should have one of those special shirts or baby slings that lets you slip the baby up to your breast and still keep it hidden. Of even just a little towel or burping rag and hang it over the side you are feeding on. People say "oh you could just not look"... well the mother could also just not feed her child in the middle of the food court where everyone is as well... >_>;
canada, my good friend. its very legal here. women can even strut around topless, if they so choose, thanks to a petition or something.BreakfastMan said:
Was it as weird as that scene in Game of Thrones?Hollyday said:
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Breastfeeding in public is a problem for some people? Huh. Well, I don't care at all what they do with their breasts. I don't have to stare if it's uncomfortable for me for some reason.
Just bring a bottle?Skipper zammo said:
That would be the bottle you spent 30 minutes pumping that morning.
The one that needs heating before the baby can have it.
The one that will go off if it's not used today.
So, breastfeeding mothers should be pumping in the morning every day they think they might be out in public with the baby, right?
Just so some prudes don't get offended?
What should they do if they think they might be out of the house long enough that the baby may need 2 feeds? Pump for twice as long?
I don't know, teach the baby to use a straw or something then. I know fuck all about breast feeding, never claimed that I did. All I'm doing is coming up with suggestions. if they donlt work then politely explain why. breast emissions aren't really my forte.bobthemighty said: