Poll: Can you build a PC?

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Isaac The Grape

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That Guy Who Phails said:
Isaac The Grape said:
Nvidia 8600GT $88 from Ebay
Wha...Wait, What...NO!

90 f***ing dollars for that piece of crap?

Either this happened in (Very) early 2008 or you got ripped off astronomically.

I mean, you could've bought an 8800GTX, assuming this was recently.
No, that was four years ago.

EDIT: I Live in Australia BTW. The average price for one of those things in 2007 was at least $120AU.
 

bam13302

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Isaac The Grape said:
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2 rigs of mine, 2 for other people
Azza Solano - my main gaming machine
-MSI nf980-g45
-MSI GTX 480
-AMD phenom II x4 955
-Gskill ripjaw 2x4GB 1600 ram
-Rosewill 950W PSU
-3x seagate 200GB hard drives (got for free from someone else, in raid 5, install my games onto this)
-seagate 320gb hard drive (data backup)
-OCZ agility 2 60GB ssd (OS drive, first ssd, kinda wanted a fast drive for my os on my primary comp)
-Zalman CNP9900 NT heatsink and fan
-Rosewill RNX-N180PCe wireless card
-windows 7 64 bit

Rosewill R379-M -my mini computer, original design as a (windows 7) steam server, currently a portable machine for digital architecture design (namely sketchup)
-ASrock H55m-LE
-i5-760
-MSI nv210-MD512 geforce 210
-corsair xms 2x2 1333 ram
-(300W psu built into the case)
-intel x25-m ssdsa2mh120g2k5 120gb ssd (this machine often is transported in vehicles, needed a solid state drive, less for the speed, more because it is stable with little risk of damage during transport)
-stock heatsink/fan
-windows 7 32 bit, windows 7 64 bit (on a different hdd), Ubuntu 10.10

just a note, the i5-760 and the phenom II x4 955 have almost exactly the same performance with only -tiny- variances, i got that specific i5 to compare it to the phenom II x4 955
each has exactly 4 cores (the i5 i have does not have hyperthreading, this was intentional), the i5 is clocked at 2.8Ghz, the phenom II x4 at 3.2, i wanted to see the difference in stepping capabilities of the 2 processors, i know intel has better stepping, i just didnt know how much of a difference that made, it gave it about a 10-15% boost in performance per core
the amd processor costs $60 (about 30%) less for the same raw power

the intel high end processors are more powerful then amd high end processors (and several times as expensive)
intels hyperthreading can help dramatically when multitasking, however, when running a single application, it can be a hinderance, or even, if the program does not support multiple processors, be a significant drawback compared to a standard processor of the same Ghz

the i5-760 is a lower wattage proc than the phenom 2 x4 (about 30 watts less or 25% less)
the i5-760 about 15 degrees hotter than the phenom II x4 (this is a biased statement, my phenom II is in a much better setup for staying cool, in a large case with lots of airflow and a good heatsink, whereas the intel has just the default heatsink and is in a small case)

there are 3 (and growing) intel sockets on the market that are still being commonly sold (1156, 1366, 1155), it is a high possibility that the 'new intel proc' needs a new motherboard too
there is 1 amd socket common on the market (AM3) and it is still being supported (and should be for a while), the 'new amd proc' will probably be released on this, meaning u can upgrade your processor without buying a new motherboard as well

if u like multitasking (having several aplications open at once) or need a ****load of power, go intel, otherwise, amd may be the better choice, especially if you plan on upgrading u proc later on
In the budget sector Intel still sells LG775 CPUs and LG775 MoBo's are still being made.

EDIT: Regarding Ubuntu. Have you considered running Fedora? Or better yet Arch? Arch is exceptionally technical but exceptionally powerful. I have a friend who uses a cluster of 34 Pent III machines running Arch to generate Rainbow Tables in 2-3 hours.
true, and amd still has am2 and am2+ mobos out there, but those are mostly out of date and if your looking for a machine with power, that is not where to go, im not sure if new procs are being made that are better than the current best LG775 CPUs or how exactly the 'am2+' socket is supposed to work (or if new better procs are being released on the am2)
also, it is not that uncommon to find a 'am2/am2+/amd3' motherboard, meaning you could by a very low end amd proc, and than later upgrade to their best out there
the 1156 is the most common intel proc, im not sure if they plan to release many more better procs for it, i though they were gona stick with the 1366 as their next socket, than they released the 1155 with their sandy bridge line, i guess the 1365 is next?

the reason i had ubuntu was just to play around with it, iv played with red had 4.8 (yea, i know, thats old, its what my work uses) mint, Suse 11.1 (i think thats right), puppy (several versions) and fedora

i dont mind unix operating systems for word processing and the web, but anything more and it can get quite complicated, although, some server software is only avaiable for unix
 

crudus

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I did so when I was like 10. I haven't had the time or money to build/get a new one.
 

Fragged_Templar

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I put my last 3 gaming rigs together by myself... and all of them have functioned beautifully. I do have one funny story... on my second build, I put the RAM in the wrong order, so the computer wouldn't start up.... 3 hours later, I'm still confused as hell and checking all my wiring, my friend comes over, looks at it for 2 seconds and then says "are you sure you put the RAM in the right order" needless to say facepalm ensued.
 

SenseOfTumour

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My main fear is the CPU/thermal paste bit, apart from that I'm more than happy slotting together bits to make a PC, and I've done enough upgrades and rebuilds for myself and others.

Really, most of it's like a big Meccano/Knex kid's set, only even easier as most stuff is either colour coded or only fits one way around.

I had a friend in America, who'd never so much as popped the lid on her desktop, and I had her upgrade her memory over skype, using her laptop as a webcam to guide her into what to do...within 10 minutes she had a faster booting and running PC, and a sense of satisfaction that she'd done it herself and not paid someone $60 or so to fit it.
 

Isaac The Grape

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Fragged_Templar said:
I put my last 3 gaming rigs together by myself... and all of them have functioned beautifully. I do have one funny story... on my second build, I put the RAM in the wrong order, so the computer wouldn't start up.... 3 hours later, I'm still confused as hell and checking all my wiring, my friend comes over, looks at it for 2 seconds and then says "are you sure you put the RAM in the right order" needless to say facepalm ensued.
Man, I've seen some strange shit at this computer place I volunteer at. For example: Someone once managed to melt SD RAM. How did they do that? By putting the RAM in backwards. How the fuck did they manage to do that? I have no idea, probably by using brute force. Anyway, the RAM overloaded, the computer short-circuited, and there was a melted lump of green and black plastic in the RAM slot.

Good times...
 

DTWolfwood

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SpAc3man said:
I was curious about how many Escapists can actually get all the parts for a PC together and assemble it? Its a skill I regularly take for granted and has actually earned me some good money.

Post your rig if you have built your own too. Have you had any interesting (mis)adventures while building a system? Let us know!

I shall start with my PC

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 @3.2GHz CPU
Gigabyte EP45-DS4P motherboard
GSkill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2-1066 Cl5 RAM
Galaxy GTX 260 896MB (216sp) GPU
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200rpm HDD
Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB 7200rpm HDD (for movies etc)
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium sound card
Cooler Master V8 CPU cooler
Silverstone Raven 2 (RV02) case
Corsair TX750 750W PSU
LG 22" 1920x1080 LCD
Microsoft Sidewinder X8 mouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 keyboard

Needless to say I love it. I will be hanging on to it in its present state for as long as possible. Next big upgrade will be the CPU, motherboard, RAM and GPU. Not for a long time though.

EDIT: better mention my misadventure. My friend spilt beer on my PC somehow. One of the RAM modules stopped working and prevented startup. A week on top of the hot water cylinder saved it. Lucky my mobo was smart enough not to boot with a shorted RAM module thus saving me a lot of hassle.
dude i didnt build my computer, because i don't know how but can if i tried, but i swear that spec is near identical to the computer i bought from IBUYPOWER. only difference is the HDD and it has some kind of liquid cooling system. lol
 

stormcrow5

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Currently im just useing a prebuilt PC with a better graphics card, it gets the job done, but i have looked into makeing a custom PC but i dont have the money to actualy go through with it right now
 

Jiefu

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I've never built a full system, but I have tinkered with pre-built ones. I've upgraded RAM, installed an ATi 4650, and removed the processor fan to clean it and successfully reattached it. I think I probably could successfully do it.
 
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I did it with my brothers, and i overclocked my CPU and GPU recently:

AMD Athlon X64 3.0GHz Overclocked to the max
Nvidia 7800GT all latest Driver overclocked to 612MB
AMD 1TB hardrive, and 4 GB hardive
ABIT motherboard(forgot the model)

well, i forgot a lot of stuff, but this is the basics
 

murphy7801

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Easy to easy to build.
Oh I recent rebuilt system specs:
I7 970
Rampage Extreme 3
2000 mhz DDR3 6gb
GTX 570 Gainward GLH
9800 gt physx card
Corsair H70
Corsair 1200w gold PSU
Fractal design XL
OCZ 64GB SSD
2X Western digital SATA 6GB/S raid 1
 

NezumiiroKitsune

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Easily, I've made many upgrades to existing PCs, dismantled a number including the occaisonal laptop, and have experience in modifying hardware with overclocking to achieved the highest reliability and performance ratio.

However, due to have always been a student, having no employment and only ever buying laptops as my primary PCs now, I haven't ever built from scratch (unless you count stripping a PC and putting it back together). I do frequently build them theoretically though (every month or so) using the best sources I know to see how the market is going cost to performance wise across the spectrum (from the unlimited budget PCs to mid range gaming rigs, to under £300 and see if I can still get it considered gaming worthy).

I'm in the process of salvaging my last laptop for parts and to see if I can identify the problem myself, run some tests on bits of the hardware and such. Was hoping to salvage the screen but it turned out the cost and time involved in the effort was more than buying a new LCD monitor.
 

Atmos Duality

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Yes, and I did so professionally for about 4 years.

As long as you get the proper case for the motherboard, hardware assembly is very easy (the part that seems to intimidate people the most is this for some reason. Just don't do anything stupid and it'll be just fine).
Hell, there are some modern mobo-case combinations that are easier to assemble than Legos.
 

Aeshi

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Could if I really had/wanted to but I find it too much of a tedious chore to be worth the extra power.

My computer as is fills the minimum requirements for most games (and due to most PC games these days being console ports said requirements are probably here to stay for quite a long time.) and that's good enough for me.
 

Quesa

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I bought my first pentium, a p100 IBM Aptiva, to play Mechwarrior 2, and that convinced me never to buy a pc someone else puts together ever again. I've made lots since.
 

antidonkey

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I build all my computers except laptops. Last one I build for myself was about 3 years ago. It's till going strong so I'm getting a new video card. My 8800GTX is showing it's age but sadly the 6870 I got to replace was DOA. Hopefully Newegg will have a quick turn around on the RMA.
 

Wolfram23

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Yes I have. An i5 750 build with crossfire 5850s.

I would like to make money off it. I was thinking about making a Kijiji ad about custom building PCs, but thinking about the logistics of it, it's not entirely sound. I don't really have a problem with going to someone's house to put all the parts together and get it running, but my gf seems to think it's very risky. But then she's from China, and who knows what kind of shit has gone down there...