Poll: Circumcision

[Jumplion]

GENITAL MUTILATION
foreskin protects the penis and it sholud only be removed in medical cases, not because of religion or culture. If an adult makes that decision then fine, but to decide to to that to your own childs genitalia when they are a baby? parents should not have the right to do that to their children, how is this any differnt from the tribes in the americas who warp their childrens heads?
also, the main "pleasure" sensors are on the foreskin, whilst the senses on the... poink part... of the penis feel more pain. it was done to everybody at one point because it was thought to be a healthy, good idea... like karoscene baths or aspestos or george bush. but using the excuse that it can stop infections and is more hygenic is absurd, like saying that if you cut off your feet then you will never stub your toes or have to wash your feet.

a boy should look like his father
i hope the father doesnt lose a leg

its our culture
and it is my culture to arrest people who cut up childrens penises

it is our history
like slavery, forced marrige, and genocide?

Okay, seriously, have you ever really spoken to anyone who's been circumcised? I'll tell you right now, I'm circumcised (for Judaism, naturally.) and I really don't care.

The only people who call circumcision GENITAL MUTILATION are the people who don't have one. You're completely overreacting at how bad a circumcision is, I don't mind and don't care, everyone else that I know of that has one doesn't care either, it's a minuscule thing.

There are positives and negatives, you can't say that a circumcision is "ABSOLUTELY BULLSHIT!" or "IT'S PERFECTLY FINE!" because the positives and negatives are 50/50

And don't give me the excuse of "less pleasure", most people who are circumcised never had sex before the circumcision, so how do they know that it's "less pleasurable"? Either way, it's sex, and it would feel great (hopefully) regardless if you have less nerve endings on your dick.

I'm sick of people yelling out "MUTILATION! MUTILATION!" when it's a minuscule problem. I'm not saying it shouldn't be up for debate, but it's so heavily overreacting with people who don't have one that you're acting as if a piece of debatable unnecessary skin is the equivalent of genocide.

 

[seidlet]

For everyone out there calling it 'mutilating a penis'.

Really? Have you ever seen a circumcised penis? It looks fine. How about driving holes through various parts of your body, then wedging pieces of metal in? Isn't that a bit more gruesome then taking off some extra skin?

it only looks fine because you're accustomed to it, culturally. if you had only seen intact penises, and THEN saw a circumcised penis later in life, you'd wonder who the hell hacked up the poor bastard.

also, piercings are sexy - not to mention obtained by consenting adults!

 

[smokeybearsb]

Being circumcised myself, I might prefer to be uncircumcised, just to see what it is like. Obviously, I've lived with it all my life, and have really gotten to wondering what it would be like. Because I haven't read all the posts yet, I wonder if the uncircumcised people wonder what it would be like to just be circumcised. I suppose they could experience it with one quick tug though

 

[sumanoskae]

No im not and that?s fucking sadistic what kind of sick son of a ***** came up with cutting the protective skin off someones dick?!

 

[Ignignoct]

I like how we've gotten to 7 pages arguing about penis appearance, with a spackling of references to FGM.

Overall, I think it's a shame the child has no choice in the matter, but you can absolutely live a normal life with/without it.

EDIT: OMG 8 pages.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Who cares, realy I could live with it either way.

 

[Doug]

I'm really quite suprised at how many people are actually circumsised, i thought it would be alot less, shows how wrong unbased conceptions are.

Benifits
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Interesting fact about yourself to bring up in conversation
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I really don't want to know what conversations you have!

not being circumsised has worked out fine for me, so long as you shower often (i do every day, but i know people who do it every other day). Just spend the extra 2 minutes to clean the area THOROUGHLY and everything is good!

Ew, people shower only every other day? (aside from when there is no water for it)

 

[Scarecrow38]

Well I haven't heard anything 'irl' one way or another about social stigma favouring one over the other ( aside from religion and 'immoral mutilation' of males that some people believe- I'm talking male circumcision because female circumcision is an entirely different and deeper issue). I don't see how one is better than the other but when I have kids I'll probably go with no because 'if it's not broken don't fix it'.

 

[bjj hero]

I had to get circumcised a few years back,because my foreskin had become too tight and was causing me problems.

If id had this issue Id phrase it:

My cock became too MASSIVE to get past my foreskin.

 

[chase211]

Uncircumcised, and its something that almost never comes to mind for me, reading the poll I actually had to ask myself 'which one of those is the one that I am again?'. Don't worry about it...plus if your concern is over the ladies, its not really noticeable...when your at ...atention... Also any girl that thinks its 'weird' (and I've never had that experience) is most likely so unexperienced with the world of penises that she simply has no real frame of refrence beyond walking in on her dad in the shower.

 

[chase211]

And based on the medical studies, there is no advantages of circumcision. It just seems like a rather barbaric, and possibly scarring practice.

Sorry to jump in there, Gormourn, but recently it's been found that being circumcised reduces the risk of catching HIV, as the virus attacks the cells in the foreskin. It still doesn't make you immune though.

I'm not gay, there's not a high chance I'll be getting HIV that way.

LOL, lolololololololol, did everyone already /pointlaugh at this guy? if not now is a good time.

Yeah, 'the gay flew', thank god you dodged that bullet...owait

 

[Frizzle]

Whatever the original reason was, the fact is still that circumcision lessens sensitivity of the glans and therefore stimulation and pleasure.

Maybe there's a misunderstanding here, but is there any circumcised man here who is unable to feel stimulation and pleasure, or even feels "less"? I promise you, the orgasm one experiences as a circumcised man is no less than that of an uncircumcised man. Hell, if there is any desensitization, that would just mean we can last longer, no?

Well, I said lessens, not removes.
And lasing longer can be achieved just as well through mental training. There's really no need to go all scissor happy...

But see here, most of the people here who were circumcised "without their consent" (including me) have never had sex before their circumcision. Therefore, if I have sex it wouldn't matter if I was circumcised or not because I've never felt it before. It doesn't matter if it decreases stimulation because I've never done it without circumcision before.

Sorry, but I have to take issue with your last paragraph. Denying someone the right to do or feel something is just as bad as letting them do it, and then taking it away. That's like saying it's okay to take a baby off the streets, and keep him as your slave his whole life. He never leaves your house, and doesn't know what it's like to not be under your controll. Even if you treat him well and he's happy, it's still a terrible thing to deny him all the opportunities of life.

I know that's an extreme example, but you see what I'm getting at. Much like the line "It's better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all."

 

[Jumplion]

Sorry, but I have to take issue with your last paragraph. Denying someone the right to do or feel something is just as bad as letting them do it, and then taking it away. That's like saying it's okay to take a baby off the streets, and keep him as your slave his whole life. He never leaves your house, and doesn't know what it's like to not be under your controll. Even if you treat him well and he's happy, it's still a terrible thing to deny him all the opportunities of life.

I know that's an extreme example, but you see what I'm getting at. Much like the line "It's better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all."

I see where you're getting at, but I think your example is a bit too extreme for it's own good. One thing is a part of your life forever, unless you somehow get a procedure to reverse it (circumcision), and one is child abuse for definite. I get what you're trying to say, but the example is too extreme for what's actually going on. I'm circumcised, and I personally don't care all that much. Mr. Head and Mrs. Hand have been going out again!

actually, i do know people who have had circumcission "reversed". it is a long, painfull process but they all say that sex is better.
so you are saying that they cant miss what they do not know? like saying that people who are blinded at birth never miss sight, or that the catholic churches version, Unics, dont miss sex at all because they never had it?

also, seeming as you want to be abuse then fine.

you used the word "miniscule" in reference to your penis a lot...

Har har, penis size joke, nice catch there.

Saying "blinded at birth never miss sight" is a poor example since I'm pretty sure that sight is a wee bit more important than sex.

Either way, when/if I have sex, it will still (hopefully...) feel great. I can't just sit there and say "man, if I was uncircumcised this would feel 40% better!" because it's useless now. It will still feel awesome (unless either of us have a seizure or something during), and if I want it/am desperate enough for it then I could possibly get one of those circumcision reversals.

If I do end up circumcising my kid, fine. If he hates me for it, so be it. If he gets one of those reversals that I've never heard about till now, power to him. But the positives and negatives of circumcision are completely even, and if you want to get to the dictionary term, the foreskin is delectably unessential if you want to call it "mutilation". Also, a saying goes with this, "better safe then sorry". It may or may not be "safe" for a circumcision if the positives outweigh the negatives, but if it turns out that circing does give benefits, then woopdedo.

I'm not saying circumcision is the "right thing to do" or that it's "wrong". If a boy ends up circumcised, I'm pretty sure he'll grow up to be just fine.

 

[chase211]

Oh my how this has escalated into a pissing contest (jizzing contest?...whatever) between either side.

There are no 'SUBSTANTIAL' pros to either, though I personally think if us Americans were not already trained to view circumcision as the norm we too would view it as a pointless and bararic religious ritual.

Having said that if your circumcised your a bad person and your mother didn't love you.

ps: gratz to the man whose penis outgrew his foreskin.

 

[Aura Guardian]

this thread makes me cross my legs very tightly lol...

>_<

Ditto

 

[Nostalgia]

For everyone out there calling it 'mutilating a penis'.

Really? Have you ever seen a circumcised penis? It looks fine. How about driving holes through various parts of your body, then wedging pieces of metal in? Isn't that a bit more gruesome then taking off some extra skin?

Depends entirely on the procedure. A circumcised penis can look perfectly fine as much as one can be. However, men develop a "ring" where the skin was cut. It's a scar, darker in color, on the shaft.

The main driving force behind circumcision "mutilation" is that not only is it done without consent of the individual, unlike body piercing and tattoos, is that it's an unneeded preemptive process for medical benefits that are either rare or preventable already. Someone here made a very good relation to our appendix, which can potentially be fatal to us, yet we don't take any preemptive measures to remove that in case we ever had a problem with it.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

No, and I want this hideous practice banned in every single country on this entire planet.

 

[xxDarlenexx]

I know I don't have a penis, but the whole thing makes me cringe. How can you look into the face of a trusting little baby and then slice off its foreskin!!!????


There is no medical advantage to doing it. People say, "it's cleaner" blah blah blah. Listen, if you're too lazy to pull it back and wash your own dick you deserve to get crotch rot. End of story.


And as for the ladies, everyone's gonna have their own preference, but seriously when the Captain is at attention you can't even TELL. Besides in the dark it's all the same.