Poll: Circumcision

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MercenaryCanary

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The odd thing about circumcision is that they don't give the babies any drugs, so they feel the full effect. When some of them go to sleep, they actually go into shock, because their skins is 100 times sensitive than ours.
What do they do with the foreskins, anyway?
They use them in (and here is the kicker) beauty products! Guess I have a reason to laugh at people who apply make-up now.

Oh, nearly forgot, I'm not circumcised. This does provide me with a bit of a worry, but seeing as I'm not old enough to actually have sex at this moment, I've decided to worry about it later.
 

space_oddity

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Nostalgia said:
Removing the foreskin, exposing the head of your penis, makes it prone to friction and stimulus growing up. Over time, you'll loss some sense of pleasure and sensitivity. Also, it could lead to callouses due to there being no foreskin to provide a moist environment.
Dude what the hell kind of underwear are you wearing? Sandpaper?
Also what the hell is your penis made of if it is getting callouses?

Unless you are a Urologist you have absolutely no authority to cite your opinions as fact. Please dont ever use the word moist again when referring to your MANatomy.

Nostalgia said:
Other countries find it to be disgusting that Americans will still provide this services so willingly for a reason.
What countries?
 

IchStrafenDich

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Nostalgia said:
IchStrafenDich said:
The male organ is ridiculously easy to please. Any nerve endings lost in the foreskin really don't make that much of a difference. And about autonomy and consensual things? It's really the same principle as your parents deciding anything else about your life before you're sentient enough to make a decision. As a child, I don't think you really count as a human being, so parents are perfectly within their rights to impose their values on you. A foreskin can be repaired if you give enough of a shit later in life.
Other countries find it to be disgusting that Americans will still provide this services so willingly for a reason.
Apparently not disgusting enough for people to choose it, non-medically, during adulthood outside the States.

Stop caring about children, they don't matter and they bounce back.

Also, don't interfere with a parent's right to impose values on a child, or you'll regret it when you come to make those decisions for your own children. So what if the parents make the wrong one, or a traumatic one? Then the little snotlings will have a reason to be angsty, cynical and rebellious other than mere adolescence. Suffering builds character. Beat on the brat. By your logic, one could advertise circumcision as a hilarious practical joke.
 

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Mercanary57 said:
They use them in (and here is the kicker) beauty products! Guess I have a reason to laugh at people who apply make-up now.
That has to be an urban myth....has to be...although if it's not...just think, if you're circumcised some model could be rubbing a bit of your cock all over her face as we speak :p
 

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Edit: I think some people do it for religious purposes. Don't know what the reasoning is, though.
i think it was from the Jewish faith originally, they had to have long journeys through the desert and sand would get caught between the foreskin and the head of the penis, causing extreme discomfort. nowadays it does not really have much practicallity but it is a tradition.

also i am not circumcised..

im not sure but i think i read somewhere that the foreskin, because it moves back and forth.. makes it easier to... hmm... to put this in the cleanest way possible... go in and out.. without lubricant.. anyway thats what i heard.
 

Gamine

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space_oddity said:
Nostalgia said:
Removing the foreskin, exposing the head of your penis, makes it prone to friction and stimulus growing up. Over time, you'll loss some sense of pleasure and sensitivity. Also, it could lead to callouses due to there being no foreskin to provide a moist environment.
Dude what the hell kind of underwear are you wearing? Sandpaper?
Also what the hell is your penis made of if it is getting callouses?
ROTFLMAO!!

Circumcision please!!!
Its better in the long run, how many of you circumcised dudes can remember the pain?

As for Female circumcision, some claim there is a need for some women....
but i know that there is a difference between Mutilation and Circumcision
 

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Spartan Bannana said:
I'm not gay, there's not a high chance I'll be getting HIV that way.
Sorry to throw a spanner in it, but heterosexual sex is only less likely to transfer AIDS because the vaginal wall is thicker than then anal.

Female circumcision is vastly different to male. A wikipedia diagram has the right idea.
For a more general description which my XY counterpart may empathise with in terms of the loss of physical stimulation.

Normal: Whole package present.
Type I: Severance of penis head and/or removal of nerves along the top of the penis.
Type II: Near-complete castration. A stump left, covered with a second skin layer.
Type III: Well... see the diagram.

Edit: there's a fourth type not included in the diagram. This includes any kind of piercing, needle pricking and the like of that area. There's also a few adult women who opt to have part of the clitoral hood removed if it's particularly stubborn in order to gain better access to the clit itself.

For myself, I'm uncircumcised. I can't say I have a preference either way when it comes to male partners. Female circumcision pushes my rage buttons I'm afraid.
 

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Gamine said:
Circumcision please!!!
Its better in the long run, how many of you circumcised dudes can remember the pain?

As for Female circumcision, some claim there is a need for some women....
but i know that there is a difference between Mutilation and Circumcision
How is it better? And why do people reckon there is a 'need' for some women to get circumcised? Aside from medical conditions.
 

Doug

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Labyrinth said:
Spartan Bannana said:
I'm not gay, there's not a high chance I'll be getting HIV that way.
Sorry to throw a spanner in it, but heterosexual sex is only less likely to transfer AIDS because the vaginal wall is thicker than then anal.
Yeah, I had to sigh at his blind stupid ignorance too.

Labyrinth said:
For myself, I'm uncircumcised. I can't say I have a preference either way when it comes to male partners. Female circumcision pushes my rage buttons I'm afraid.
Understandable. Frankly, type III scares me that they would think its acceptable. Add to that, its a recipe for infections and so forth. Its just evil, really.
 

Pipotchi

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Uncircumcised for me, and as has already been pointed out that seems to be the norm in Europe.

If a guy wants to chop his foreskin as an adult then good for him, but in my mind mutilating a child with no say in the matter is an abhorent practice regardless of wherever your religion endorses it.

Edit Oh and female circumscision is even more twisted
 

Nostalgia

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space_oddity said:
Nostalgia said:
Removing the foreskin, exposing the head of your penis, makes it prone to friction and stimulus growing up. Over time, you'll loss some sense of pleasure and sensitivity. Also, it could lead to callouses due to there being no foreskin to provide a moist environment.
Dude what the hell kind of underwear are you wearing? Sandpaper?
Also what the hell is your penis made of if it is getting callouses?

Unless you are a Urologist you have absolutely no authority to cite your opinions as fact. Please dont ever use the word moist again when referring to your MANatomy.
When did I ever say that I had callouses myself? Don't put word in my mouth, please.
You can simply read up on it if you wish from multiple sources if you're skeptical. If you proud of what you have, then I see no reason for you to be attacking me unless I was wrong.

The foreskin is there to keep the head of your penis in an environment in which it will be protected. Moist is probably a horrible word to use, but that's what it does, to prevent chaffing and callouses naturally and preserve sensitivity.


space_oddity said:
Nostalgia said:
Other countries find it to be disgusting that Americans will still provide this services so willingly for a reason.
What countries?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_and_law

Perhaps disgust wasn't wise to use, but many countries consider it unlawful without any medical reason.
 

Nostalgia

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IchStrafenDich said:
Nostalgia said:
IchStrafenDich said:
The male organ is ridiculously easy to please. Any nerve endings lost in the foreskin really don't make that much of a difference. And about autonomy and consensual things? It's really the same principle as your parents deciding anything else about your life before you're sentient enough to make a decision. As a child, I don't think you really count as a human being, so parents are perfectly within their rights to impose their values on you. A foreskin can be repaired if you give enough of a shit later in life.
Other countries find it to be disgusting that Americans will still provide this services so willingly for a reason.
Apparently not disgusting enough for people to choose it, non-medically, during adulthood outside the States.

Stop caring about children, they don't matter and they bounce back.

Also, don't interfere with a parent's right to impose values on a child, or you'll regret it when you come to make those decisions for your own children. So what if the parents make the wrong one, or a traumatic one? Then the little snotlings will have a reason to be angsty, cynical and rebellious other than mere adolescence. Suffering builds character. Beat on the brat. By your logic, one could advertise circumcision as a hilarious practical joke.
You seem to have extremely high disciplinary values, and mistaken me for doing this out of the best interest of the child. This isn't so much about choice for me as it is about it being mostly unnecessary and unnatural. Not that my personal beliefs would cause me to bullshit my argument, so feel free to cite me wrong, but this is why I'm adamant about it.
 

Gamine

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Doug said:
Gamine said:
Circumcision please!!!
Its better in the long run, how many of you circumcised dudes can remember the pain?

As for Female circumcision, some claim there is a need for some women....
but i know that there is a difference between Mutilation and Circumcision
How is it better? And why do people reckon there is a 'need' for some women to get circumcised? Aside from medical conditions.
Exactly!, the need is medical, otherwise, Crap.

For the dudes, i have heard a lot of nasty stories linked to not being circumcised, i dont wanna go there
 

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I'm not, but I live in a pretty religious area where most kids are. I always worried about what girls preferred and all that, but I can say now it hasn't caused me any problems. (wink wink) If I ever have a son, I probably won't have him cut.
 

Doug

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Gamine said:
Doug said:
Gamine said:
Circumcision please!!!
Its better in the long run, how many of you circumcised dudes can remember the pain?

As for Female circumcision, some claim there is a need for some women....
but i know that there is a difference between Mutilation and Circumcision
How is it better? And why do people reckon there is a 'need' for some women to get circumcised? Aside from medical conditions.
Exactly!, the need is medical, otherwise, Crap.

For the dudes, i have heard a lot of nasty stories linked to not being circumcised, i dont wanna go there
......? You do realise most of the world doesn't practise male circumcision, right? What "horror stories" have you heard?
 

Mindex

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Abedeus said:
Alex_P said:
Abedeus said:
It's just inhumane, cutting off the most important part of a man just for... WHAT?
The foreskin's not "the most important part of a man" by any stretch of the imagination. It's just a bit of flexible outer flesh over the glans ("head"). It basically retracts when fully aroused for intercourse. The loss of the foreskin can change how one experiences sex or masturbation but it doesn't lead to anything especially bad.

-- Alex
It's still a part of the penis. And you are chopping a part of it off.
Its actually more like burning it off.
 

Doug

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Nostalgia said:
IchStrafenDich said:
Nostalgia said:
IchStrafenDich said:
The male organ is ridiculously easy to please. Any nerve endings lost in the foreskin really don't make that much of a difference. And about autonomy and consensual things? It's really the same principle as your parents deciding anything else about your life before you're sentient enough to make a decision. As a child, I don't think you really count as a human being, so parents are perfectly within their rights to impose their values on you. A foreskin can be repaired if you give enough of a shit later in life.
Other countries find it to be disgusting that Americans will still provide this services so willingly for a reason.
Apparently not disgusting enough for people to choose it, non-medically, during adulthood outside the States.

Stop caring about children, they don't matter and they bounce back.

Also, don't interfere with a parent's right to impose values on a child, or you'll regret it when you come to make those decisions for your own children. So what if the parents make the wrong one, or a traumatic one? Then the little snotlings will have a reason to be angsty, cynical and rebellious other than mere adolescence. Suffering builds character. Beat on the brat. By your logic, one could advertise circumcision as a hilarious practical joke.
You seem to have extremely high disciplinary values, and mistaken me for doing this out of the best interest of the child. This isn't so much about choice for me as it is about it being mostly unnecessary and unnatural. Not that my personal beliefs would cause me to bullshit my argument, so feel free to cite me wrong, but this is why I'm adamant about it.
I really can't tell if "IchStrafenDich" is being serious or not. It reads like parody, but I can't tell.
 

Mindex

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I'm circumcised and I haven't had any problems at all. A majority of Americans are circumcised for medical reasons as a child. Its more of a preventative measure than a cure. They circumcise you as a child so you wont have problems later. In the end does it really matter. To me no.
 

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Mindex said:
I'm circumcised and I haven't had any problems at all. A majority of Americans are circumcised for medical reasons as a child. Its more of a preventative measure than a cure. They circumcise you as a child so you wont have problems later. In the end does it really matter. To me no.
Again, there is no medical evidence that circumcision has any benefit medically at all. In fact, there maybe drawbacks, although the medical evidence is conflicting. STDs and HIV don't care if you have a foreskin or not. And so long as you shower daily, and clean the winky, which you should be doing anyway, there is still no drawback.
 

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Mindex said:
I'm circumcised and I haven't had any problems at all. A majority of Americans are circumcised for medical reasons as a child. Its more of a preventative measure than a cure. They circumcise you as a child so you wont have problems later. In the end does it really matter. To me no.
A preventative measure? What does it prevent. I didnt realise that there was some disease that could afflict the foreskin in later life?