Poll: CONFORMISTS!!!!

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slightly evil

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so no. and conformity bugs me, there are packs of chavs all over britain and they look ridiculous (i think)
 

Mittens The Kitten

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Caliostro said:
Mittens The Kitten said:
when something works really well and is adopted by the majority of the population...
an artist calls it cliche
and a biologist calls it evolution
Jersey Shore.
Twilight.
The Transformers movies.
Call of Duty.
The sound of your theory falling apart.

Yes, usually good things are popular, but it's not a certainty, and the inverse certainly does not hold true.

Good tends to be popular, but popular may or may not be good.
the point of my comment was that in the conformity/nonconformity discussion, artistic greivances need to be seperated from practical ones. You very effectively disproved a theory that i never postulated.
 

Mikeyfell

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Mittens The Kitten said:
Nerd
: an unstylish, unattractive, or socially inept person; especially : one slavishly devoted to intellectual or academic pursuits

unfortunately, i hate this definition, but neither

you, nor I, nor moviebob gets to decide on definitions and merriam-webster is quite clear that a baseball obsession does not, by itself, make someone a nerd.
Merriam-Webster doesn't always have the best definition
Look at "fly" movement through air with wings
so if you took a bird to an oxygen rich environment and let it flap about it wouldn't be flying according to Merriam-Webster

and there's nothing academic or intellectual about comic books
and what the hell does being unstylish and unattractive have to do with it

just stick to "socially inept and slavishly devoted to something"
it may not be "the" definition but it's a better definition
 

black_omega2

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I fail to see why conformity or non-conformity matters?
I've been doing my own thing for a while and it's not likely to change. If it happens to be similar to someone else... well good for them?
Really I'm just too lazy to waste time, effort, and probably money to change myself for some people I don't care about.
 

Hashime

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I guess not in the sense that I do not share many of the "Normal" hobbies, activities, and desires that the majority of society does.
I also do not care what people think of me. That does not change my level of mutual respect for the people I know however
 

Caliostro

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Mittens The Kitten said:
the point of my comment was that in the conformity/nonconformity discussion, artistic greivances need to be seperated from practical ones. You very effectively disproved a theory that i never postulated.
Yep, people would NEVER buy impractical things because they're popular! [http://www.google.pt/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial&channel=s&hl=pt-pt&q=classic+cars&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1512&bih=776].

And before you reply:
artistic grievances need to be separated from practical ones
 

Caliostro

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Mikeyfell said:
and there's nothing academic or intellectual about comic books
You sir have never read V for Vendetta, Watchmen or Transmetropolitan. To name just 3 big ones off the top of my head.
 

Mittens The Kitten

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Caliostro said:
Mittens The Kitten said:
the point of my comment was that in the conformity/nonconformity discussion, artistic greivances need to be seperated from practical ones. You very effectively disproved a theory that i never postulated.
Yep, people would NEVER buy impractical things because they're popular! [http://www.google.pt/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial&channel=s&hl=pt-pt&q=classic+cars&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1512&bih=776].

And before you reply:
artistic grievances need to be separated from practical ones
I apologize if i'm not being clear, but i never said that popular activities are always practical.
 

Caligulove

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So, you're asking if people conform to hating conformity?

Everyone conforms to a degree, we're a social species. We'd in quite a mess if we were all so radically different from one another, like others would like you to believe. Those who go through the phase of not wanting to conform are at least thinking a bit for themselves, and it's good to consider these ideas, but in the end I think they're fed up with feeling like they have to be like the majority, a problem many of others can relate to. In a desire to show how much of an individual they are, some will go radically in another direction just to look differently. But it's still only a difference on the outside.

There are other ways to prove your individuality, though, if you're so neurotic about it- especially in your actions and in your thoughts and words. Personally, I think our appearances divide us far too much and have us forget how alike we all are to each other.
 

supermariner

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i wouldn't say that i am a conformist
but then i'm not militantly the opposite
and i don't go out of my way to be different or deliberately zag against societies zig
but i just act and dress however i want
maybe i look stupid sometimes
maybe i look ordinary sometimes
but nothing (conciously) affects how i choose to be
 

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I think that being different for the sake of being different is silly and childish. Sometimes conformity is a good thing, but its up to the individual to use their best judgement on whether or not they should do something. But "is everyone else doing it?" can't be the only thing to consider.
 

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Caliostro said:
Mikeyfell said:
and there's nothing academic or intellectual about comic books
You sir have never read V for Vendetta, Watchmen or Transmetropolitan. To name just 3 big ones off the top of my head.
ok you're right I've never read them but that's not really what I'm talking about

it wouldn't be an academic pursuit to read a story book over a text book
no matter how intellectual the story was

and "nerd" being synonymous with "smart" is a symptom of nerd-dom not a cause

they're so slavishly devoted to their field of interest that interacting with normal people is a drag
so instead of making friends and going to parties they do their homework

but speaking as a nerd who isn't into comic books or sports you can trust
Merriam Webster got the wrong definition
 

Daverson

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Have you ever noticed that members of "anti-conformist" groups all dress the same, talk the same and all listen to similar music?

Humorous, no?

My outlook is, do what you like and what you have to. Don't do something because other people do it, and more importantly, don't do something because other people don't do it.
 

the lapalminator

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just let me quote a rush song on this one

"if you choose to not decide you still have made a choice, i will choose a path thats clear i will choose free will"
 

lacktheknack

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I wear what's comfy and groom myself to not look sloppy. I don't know - or care - about what people expect me to wear (except for formal occasions).
 

Anarchemitis

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The uneducated masses of sheeple who conform to norms say the norm is not being Racist.

What does that spell for Anti-conformists?

Your poll does not give the option which I feel applies to me: That Conformity is not a dichotomy because there is the option to not care and not notice.
 

Caliostro

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Mittens The Kitten said:
I apologize if i'm not being clear, but i never said that popular activities are always practical.
That was my entire point.

A lot of things (in general) are popular because they're good, but being popular does not mean something is good.
 

lacktheknack

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Fetzenfisch said:
tt: i picked a little. You can't get past schoolage without conforming a little.
Oh yes you can.

I stuck through Physics, despite it having about 4 people in it, and dropped Biology, despite it having about 80 people in it. I had a completely non-descript wardrobe that clashed a bit, responded to requests to conform with angry glares and the occasional "Cthulhu fhtagn" (yes, really), ran the school choir mostly by myself, left with the school's first "Best Vocalist" award and a spot on the honor roll.

I even had some friends!

And I didn't do a single thing because it was "cool".
 

Caliostro

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Mikeyfell said:
ok you're right I've never read them but that's not really what I'm talking about

it wouldn't be an academic pursuit to read a story book over a text book
no matter how intellectual the story was
Because?

I'm not arguing the rest of your point, I kinda agree with it, it's just the idea that comics can not be intellectual pursuits that I'm trying to demystify. Comics like the ones I mentioned above are incredibly intellectual. You could write entire scientific dissertations on each of those books.
 

ayuri

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I don't give a crap what other people think but the finniest thing to see is non conformists its not that they don't care about what they wear but they conform in a different way (often to a much greater extreme) and call it non conforming the only way to really not conform is not care whether or not you are conforming. if you do or don't look like someone it does not matter as long as you wear something.