Poll: Cross Platform Multiplayer?

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LoganN

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TEMHOTA said:
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When you play online multiplayer in games, its always against people with the same console, but what about those jerks with other consoles who say that their games are better? Wouldnt you want to hold a victory against them instead of your console sharing buddies? So would I. But thats just me saying that. Would you want cross platform multiplayer for your favorite games?
This failed already, PC XBox was mixed before, PC gamers mopped the floor with console gamers. SO much so that in the Vista launch title Shadowrun Microsoft had to gimp the PC controls to keep it even.

http://www.techspot.com/news/39738-microsoft-killed-crossplatform-project-because-pc-gamers-wrecked-console-gamers.html
http://spong.com/article/21938/Rumour-Console-Gamers-Killed-360-vs-PC-Cross-Platform-Play
That was a RUMOR. It even says it in the link. No one from Microsoft has commented on that, ever. Plus, if I recall, they used Unreal Tournament and Gears of War as examples, which Unreal Tournament 3 isn't even a GFWL title.

General_Potatoes said:
Its not a bad idea but was Shadowrun a Cross platform?
Yes, Shadowrun is a PC/360 cross-platform title using both Games for Windows LIVE and Xbox LIVE. It, along with Universe at War, Lost Planet: Extreme Condition - Colonies, GameRoom, and BlazBlu Calamity Trigger are the only games that cross-platform with the PC and the 360.

The launch of Windows Phone 7 bodes well for cross-platform gameplay. There are already games, albeit not real time ones(turn based), that have cross-platform with the 360. There is no reason why the games can't be PC/360/WP7.
 

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Well just yesterday I faced somone on Lost Planet: Colonies who was on the 360 and I was on PC, it worked really well.
 

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LifeCharacter said:
Ever played Shadowrun?
/me grabs a box of 400D6 yeah XD

anyways, back on topic, cross platform would be ALOT better than stuck on "so if i buy a game, for xbox, i can't play w/ my pc friends, but if i buy a game for PC i can't play w/ my ps3 friends....wtf is this shit?"

ok, racing games? seriously? WHY NOT ALREADY THERE? *ahem* anyways....fps games? yeah....pc and console...lol, yeah, i doubt that'll ever happen :( unfortunately, although, yeah, consoles would be handicaped, but they might do better in a cross platform than we expect due to auto-aim.
 

Spencer Petersen

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As long as the console developers are competitors, which they will always be, its much more lucrative to pit us against one another with exclusives and segregated multiplayer.

Also, from a technical standpoint because different console use different control schemes and other perks like aim assist or extra buttons, multiplayer can become imbalanced just because of hardware. For example if a game utilized both Xbox and PC players in the same server, Xbox might have aim assist to compensate for a slower turn and aim speed, which the PC gamers would hate, and the PC gamers have the advantage of a mouse and keyboard interface, which would anger Xbox players.

I think someone tried this before, and it failed badly.
 

scyrin

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didn't they try something like this for modern warfare between the xbox 360 and the pc?
 

LoganN

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TEMHOTA said:
LoganN said:
That was a RUMOR. It even says it in the link. No one from Microsoft has commented on that, ever. Plus, if I recall, they used Unreal Tournament and Gears of War as examples, which Unreal Tournament 3 isn't even a GFWL title.
So why was it Microsoft killed the project? They just didn't feel like doing it anymore?
They didn't? Cross-platform is still fully supported. A game came out two months ago, BlazBlu, fully supports cross-platform with the Xbox and PC.

If you are wondering why there isn't a large ammount of cross-platform games, you'd have to ask the developers that. They are the ones who make the final decision on what is in the game, not Microsoft.
 

Cody Karr

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I'm pretty sure it has been mentioned in this thread somewhere but I am not going to bother to read it all right now but games like Lost Planet were able to cross platform with the 360 and the PC. I really don't see why Sony and Microsoft can't suck it up and make some kind of deal with certain popular franchises like Call of Duty (that are available for all systems) One of the issues that I can see is that Sony allows for free online multiplayer while microsoft still charges for Live. This would create a very one sided option for some people who really can't afford to pay for live and the map packs and add-ons that come with it.
 

Dragonforce525

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I wouldn't really see the point, I mean in some aspects it could be good like for example bringing a dead game back to life, merging the consoles would mean more players so finding a lobby in an old game won't become such a chore, but that's the only reason I can think of, I wouldn't really care about beating someone who owned another console, at the end of the day you're still shooting the same thing in the same way, having them be on another console wouldn't make beating them any more enjoyable.
 

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LoganN said:
That was a RUMOR. It even says it in the link. No one from Microsoft has commented on that, ever. Plus, if I recall, they used Unreal Tournament and Gears of War as examples, which Unreal Tournament 3 isn't even a GFWL title.
Wouldn't even matter.
UT3
Team Deathmatch
Team A uses regular mouse/keyboard
Team B uses a gamepad on their PCs.

I don't see the logistical problem here.
 

dickseverywhere

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yes yes yes, my personal bugbear being the lack of cross-platform on SFIV. its a fucking joke especially since iirc it was actually promised prior to release and being as its using GFWL for multiplayer there should be no problem making it compatible with XBL.
also mouse and keyboard own the fucking shit out of control pads. enjoy your stupid fidly thumbstick, i'll be rocking with my 1600DpI mouse.

Dr_Steve_Brule said:
I've heard about a game that tried that once, and apparently they never tried it again because the PC users wiped their ass with the competition.
shadowrun wasn't it? god what a PoS that was all round, take one of the best tabletop RPGs around and turn it into a seriously mediocre FPS.

Shoggoth2588 said:
I thought TF2 and Alien vs Predator was already cross-platform. Could be wrong...also, why aren't the Call of Duty's cross platform when they're on everything that has a screen? It would be cool but I don't do online-multiplayer...I'd rather see split-screen return.
hell yes, whatever happened to split screen? i dont pay for live and im not going to. maybe im just being paranoid but i swear its jut because MS would prefer you playing online and paying for it.

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A small game that opened up to pretty poor reviews and was hardly played by anyone? Come on. I'm talking about the size of at least BF:BC2.
To be fair, that was the only GFWL released. Ever.
street fighter IV? also a lot of xbox games that got ported for PC.
 

Azure Sky

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In a perfect world, this would probably be a great idea.
Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world, and console company's would most likely do anything other than cooperate with their competitors to make such a scheme work.
PCs are another issue entirely. Due to the interface/control methods that a PC uses, most genras of gaming would be unable to have balance.
We all know the KB/Mouse vs Controller argument, they are not feasible for cross-platform gameplay in most action genras, yes there have been tests to confirm this, the evidence is indisputable.

In short, cross-console gaming is indeed feasible, but highly unlikely due to the selfish upper-managements involved.
Console-PC gaming is unfeasible unless you force the players to use the same control medium (either KB/Mouse OR Controller) due to the imbalance that arises. And even then, see above.
 

Azure Sky

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demoman_chaos said:
Quake 3 Arena did this. PC players could face Dreamcast players in a frag fest.
*Mediocre PC player could face Pro-DC player in a frag fest.

Fixed! =3

And from memory, we are talking 5-10x the DC player scores.
 
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Kair said:
Do you really want the PC players to dominate console players in multiplayer?
I think the question should be, "Do you really want to deal with console and PC elitism?"

I know I wouldn't.
 

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superbatranger said:
I think the question should be, "Do you really want to deal with console and PC elitism?"
That depends on if you mean 'deal with' as in tolerate/suffer through or 'deal with' as in addressing a problem and solving it.

I'm assuming you mean the former because I doubt many people other than platform elitists themselves wouldn't mind seeing it expunged.
 

Azure Sky

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superbatranger said:
Kair said:
Do you really want the PC players to dominate console players in multiplayer?
I think the question should be, "Do you really want to deal with console and PC elitism?"

I know I wouldn't.
There is a difference between Console and PC "Elitism" and "Fact"
There are people on both sides who are unable to distinguish between the two.
The facts are, that without some third-party input device (Wheel for racers, stick for fighters, etc) or just forcing both sides to use standardized input (Both controllers or KB/mouse) the shear difference in controls will always have an unbalancable advantage in most genras.
Not to pick sides here, but the advantage is usually in the PCs favor, Particularly to do with the instantaneous aiming that a mouse provides in Shooters, as well as the control it provides in rapid selection, such as an RTS.
 

Smooth Operator

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There is absolutely no reason that cross platform multiplayer isn't done with every game, apart from pure laziness.
Every multiplayer game now has this huge issue of what system your friends will play on... sheer stupidity.

Yes some people may have an advantage, but so does someone with a racing wheel, laser mouse, high accuracy controler,... and yet we still manage to play with them.
 

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Rakun Man said:
This would be awesome.

But then again playing on a xbox/ps3 we could possibly risk a massive failure to them computer-junkies-i-have-a-mouse-and-keyboard-and-you-don't people. And losing to kids on wii would just be embarrassing...
I don't think anyone should be afraid of losing to someone on a Wii...