Recently a friend introduced me to recreational usage of dextromethorphan, the active ingredient in Robitussin.
It has given me both the most unpleasant and most euphorically happy moments of my life over the last couple weeks.
It's usage could definitely be described as going down a rabbit hole of sorts.
Has anyone else on the Escapist been down that rabbit hole?
Also, I checked the rules of the site since this thread is easily pushing it to make sure I'm good to go and it said not to post threads about "Illegal Drugs in the United States", however, according to Wikipedia, "No legal distinction currently exists in the United States between medical and recreational use, sale, or purchase [of dextromethorphan]." Seeing as it is not illegal in the United States, I did not feel this thread would violate any site rule.
edit- at request, here is a link explaining recreational use of DXM.
To give a better description if you don't feel like reading the wikipedia is basically that DXM is a dissociative, a class of drugs that produces dreamlike states in users, and lasts for about eight hours. It tends to produce an intense physical euphoria and feeling of invincibility, but is not marked by the same reduction in decision making capacity as other dissociatives such as salvia divinorum or phencyclidine (PCP). However, while it does not generally significantly reduce decision making or mental ability in users (I've been around people on it several times who didn't even realize I was on anything until I told them), it does produce closed eye hallucinations. If mixed with other psychoactive substances, it tends to enhance whatever effects they have on one's mental capacity.
It is not safe to mix recreational doses of DXM with any other psychoactive drug with the exception of cannabis, which, unlike DXM, is illegal and therefore not to be condoned. Even then, while it is not physically dangerous to mix the two drugs, the DXM mixes with cannabis in such a way as to significantly reduce the decision making abilities of a user. Such a mixture will not lead to PCP-style "I can fly" jump off a building level decision making, but even if an individual is a cannabis user, if they are prone to making dangerous decisions they should think twice before mixing the drug with DXM.
I've tried this, but only a few times. Totally not worth the effort for the high, especially when there are far stronger and more mind blowing chemicals. Still, it's fairly trippy. OH, and for the record, I smoked large amounts of weed and did DXM (also weed is legal here, Colorado, and as such I more than condone it's use for, well, anything, better than getting drunk and it actively fights potential cancer growth) and I didn't make any poor decisions at all. Like not even one, pretty average night aside from a few strange conversations between my tripping friends and strangers. This whole "Dangerous Decisions" Nonsense sounds like something out of reefer madness.
If you like this you should probably check out LSD or Mushrooms, I'd also suggest but with caution (as it's the only addictive chemical I'm going to mention and as such is rather dangerous) Ketamine (Trippy. As. Fuck. But don't expect to be social). Also I'd recommend DMT to EVERYONE at least once, it's a big part of the human experience as it's a chemical released at birth and at death.
Have fun young psychonaut, and remember to really get to know a dealer before playing with their stuff. I'd recommend hippies, as they generally want everyone to have fun more than they want to make money... However there are hippie gangsters... What a weird culture that is.
Recently a friend introduced me to recreational usage of dextromethorphan, the active ingredient in Robitussin.
It has given me both the most unpleasant and most euphorically happy moments of my life over the last couple weeks.
It's usage could definitely be described as going down a rabbit hole of sorts.
Has anyone else on the Escapist been down that rabbit hole?
Also, I checked the rules of the site since this thread is easily pushing it to make sure I'm good to go and it said not to post threads about "Illegal Drugs in the United States", however, according to Wikipedia, "No legal distinction currently exists in the United States between medical and recreational use, sale, or purchase [of dextromethorphan]." Seeing as it is not illegal in the United States, I did not feel this thread would violate any site rule.
edit- at request, here is a link explaining recreational use of DXM.
To give a better description if you don't feel like reading the wikipedia is basically that DXM is a dissociative, a class of drugs that produces dreamlike states in users, and lasts for about eight hours. It tends to produce an intense physical euphoria and feeling of invincibility, but is not marked by the same reduction in decision making capacity as other dissociatives such as salvia divinorum or phencyclidine (PCP). However, while it does not generally significantly reduce decision making or mental ability in users (I've been around people on it several times who didn't even realize I was on anything until I told them), it does produce closed eye hallucinations. If mixed with other psychoactive substances, it tends to enhance whatever effects they have on one's mental capacity.
It is not safe to mix recreational doses of DXM with any other psychoactive drug with the exception of cannabis, which, unlike DXM, is illegal and therefore not to be condoned. Even then, while it is not physically dangerous to mix the two drugs, the DXM mixes with cannabis in such a way as to significantly reduce the decision making abilities of a user. Such a mixture will not lead to PCP-style "I can fly" jump off a building level decision making, but even if an individual is a cannabis user, if they are prone to making dangerous decisions they should think twice before mixing the drug with DXM.
I've tried this, but only a few times. Totally not worth the effort for the high, especially when there are far stronger and more mind blowing chemicals. Still, it's fairly trippy. OH, and for the record, I smoked large amounts of weed and did DXM (also weed is legal here, Colorado, and as such I more than condone it's use for, well, anything, better than getting drunk and it actively fights potential cancer growth) and I didn't make any poor decisions at all. Like not even one, pretty average night aside from a few strange conversations between my tripping friends and strangers. This whole "Dangerous Decisions" Nonsense sounds like something out of reefer madness.
If you like this you should probably check out LSD or Mushrooms, I'd also suggest but with caution (as it's the only addictive chemical I'm going to mention and as such is rather dangerous) Ketamine (Trippy. As. Fuck. But don't expect to be social). Also I'd recommend DMT to EVERYONE at least once, it's a big part of the human experience as it's a chemical released at birth and at death.
Have fun young psychonaut, and remember to really get to know a dealer before playing with their stuff. I'd recommend hippies, as they generally want everyone to have fun more than they want to make money... However there are hippie gangsters... What a weird culture that is.
As much as I like disassociatives I likely won't try ketamine. I would love to experience it, but I personally have too addictive of a personality for something which such a high psychological addiction rate and such bad effects from long-term use. If ever I grow some willpower I'll likely try it once.
The other things you listed are pretty common among my friends. I most likely will wind up using them someday accordingly.
And it is always a good plan to know the dealer. I've never gotten anything from a hippie and very infrequently from gangbanger types. Usually it's lower to upper middle class college students who are in it on the side for extra spending money or often (toward to upper end) I suspect just because it makes them feel cool. Generally safe sorts of people whatever their motivation.
I would definitely advise against ketamine. In low doses it's a bit like getting drunk, and in higher doses I just k-holed, which was the most horrible experience I've ever had with a substance.
I do prefer doing other things, but I don't really want to discuss much more in an open thread, I don't really fancy feeling the brunt of mod-wrath for discussing my personal favoured experiences.
Some drugs are good, some aren't. I have taken drugs before and, on occasion, I mix my drugs. I put sugar in my coffee.
I live life on a razor's edge, man.
In all seriousness, you just have to have the intelligence to know what you're dealing with and the willpower to be able to give up drugs that hurt you. Vids for explanation:
No. I have not. I don't find myself wanting to though as I consider games to be a good enough departure from realty while not having alter my brain chemistry (much).
Look kid, if you're gonna do recreational drugs at least do real ones. Robo-tripping was cool when I was in like 8th grade, but it's really not even fun.
If you like tripping, get some acid or shrooms. If you're looking for the disassociative "hole" get some special k. If you're just looking to have a good night, smoke a little bud.
DXM is terrible for you at high doses and you might as well have a real trip instead of a lazy confusing headache that makes you see shit.
TL;DR - Unless you're still in high school or something DXM is really just a drug for losers.
Regardless of what school you are in, none of the drugs mentioned in this post are even remotely safe for daily recreational use and you are undoubtedly much better off having a real life instead of drinking cough syrup and giggling at the "spiders" in your carpet.
Yeah. You really don't need to be doing this, dude. I don't want to read about your corpse in the papers. I don't care how cool it is, or how good (or, apparently, bad) it makes you feel. Just don't do this.
Just to be clear I don't treat alcohol or alcoholics any differently. Neither do I treat nicotine addicts any differently. I also used to drink quite heavily for stupid reasons but eventually stopped completely (it was a process not an overnight thing). Oddly enough I'm for the legalization of drugs. All of my hatred and disgust is a product of personal experiences and things I've seen. and I and I admit my kneejerk reaction to label all drug users as weak isn't good and most of that thought is more on people that depend on them or are addicted. Still don't see the point (never will and I've heard all of the arguments) and would like for people to not do them. But screw it, as long as I don't do them and nobody forces me to do them (very unlikely) then let people do as they will.
Lucky. I had codeine (same class of drug as morphine) once, and while I've been prescribed it since, I always wind up just taking Ibuprofen instead, because codeine makes me sleepy and... that's about it. And it's kind of an unpleasant sleepiness. I did, however, have nitrous before getting my wisdom teeth taken out. /That/ was fun. The recovery from the surgery wasn't[footnote]Most people get their wisdom teeth pulled out. Mine had to be cut out, which is much worse.[/footnote], but going under sure was.
I barely even drink let alone do other drugs... it's not my thing, i may not agree with other peoples choices to do drugs, but unless it is causing harm to others i have no leg to stand on and have a say in a strangers affairs.
@Owyn, mine were surgically removed as well, all four, it was the first time i've ever had surgery
My nephew lost his kidney one time and was on heavy doses of morphine in the hospital. He would start a sentence, pass out, wake up several hours later and finish it like nothing had happened and be bewildered that everyone had moved around the room.
Only personal experience with it is one time I bought two hydrocodone pills and took them. Fun, but not worth what I payed.
TomLikesGuitar said:
you are undoubtedly much better off having a real life instead of drinking cough syrup and giggling at the "spiders" in your carpet.
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