Novs said:
Never said it revolved around me.
No but it was basically implied given what I had previously said. I said it depends on someones opinion that a sub-genre has merit and you were flat out were against it.
Lol no music theory is based on notes played in a certain rythm that makes for a melody.
And you can thank Pythagoras for discovering those notes in the first place, a famous Mathematician who specialized in new discoveries and theories.
Also the different elements of music (such as the instruments being played, vocal style, and so on IS based on opinion. For example if you listen to Symphonic Metal one may not know enough to categorize it and just label it simply as 'Metal'. Another person might hear the symphony and label it with their own opinion, thus the sub-genre is formed based on additional musical elements. Technically we are calling it the same thing, so to make a concession; music theory is based on opinion AND the stuff you said. The invention of music is a human notion and we humans often get confused as to what is and isn't music. Therefore = opinion. The very fact that we fail to agree on what music IS in the most basic of terms proves that.
This is aesthetic, and yes male and females voices are diffrent. But males and females can produce the exact same notes with their voices, kinda like you can play the same melody on a guitar, and a piano, and on any other instrument.
But despite the diffrent sound beetween male and female, there has never been a genre based on that.
Yes men and women can produce similar vocal patterns but on AVERAGE they don't which is why sub-genres are produced in the first place. They cater larger groups of similarities whether they be the style, the speed, the note setup (see Mathcore), the vocals (see the difference between Death Metal and something such as Emo or Glam Rock).
http://youmix.co.uk/radio/?genre=Diva+Metal
This website tells you a few stations that contain 'Diva Metal' however the description is vague. Often on music websites instead of including a specific female genre the website adds tags such as 'female vocals' to differentiate as seen here:
http://www.last.fm/music/Evanescence?ac=evanescence
You will notice the words 'female vocals' is right next to the genre tags. Surely it was put there for a reason. The reason? It made sense to SOMEONE. Anyone. Just because it wasn't you doesn't mean it isn't allowed to be differentiated.
Its not that i dont like it, its just that "Diva Metal" isnt based on any music theory, therefore it isnt a valid genre.
But it is based on music theory. It produces an entirely different sound. If you were to break it down to the bits of data streaming through your computer there is a fundamental difference between a male and a female singer.
Also, saying a genre isn't valid when someone else thinks it is defeats the purpose of a sub-genre. You either allow all sub-genres that have significant difference or you label all of them the same. Let's just label all 'Metal' as 'Metal' from now on. Or how about just 'Music'. Yeah that makes sense.
Like i said, those 2 people can live in their little bubble and remain clueless about music genres.
How ironic because that's what it is happening to you right now! Genres of music change over time and when they change too much, entirely new sub-genres are formed. By insisting only on the genres you know you are being close-minded to the possibilities.
Ergh... if you don't get it you don't get it. Say what you want to say, I'll read it. Then I'm done.
