Poll: Do You Invert?

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I used to until I played Rainbow Six: Black Arrow on the original Xbox, from then on I haven't.
 

Jinxzy

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Never invert... oh god never.
My boyfriend was playing on my 360 and inverted everything. I went to play when he was done, oh god the horror.
 

Helgar11

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there such a think as non invertion every one i know inverts the controls i thought every one did
 

lolmynamewastaken

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ok, i only didn't invert flight sims...
hot seating with me is hell, i just get told off for it so much as only one of my friends is also an invert.
invertation is for profesionals!
 

James Cassidy

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For some reason, I guess it's because of the circumstance, I can only use inverted controls when the game is about piloting vehicles.

I guess it has to do that in a plane you pull back on the stick to go up and push forward to go down. Looking at it from game controller POV, up is down and down is up.
 

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ThatJagoGuy said:
Madshaw said:
ThatJagoGuy said:
Pi_Fighter said:
Apparently, when you pick up a game for the first time, whether or not you like the inverse thumbstick/mouse setting depends on which side of the brain you use most.

I use inverse. Because I can.

P.S. To anyone wonderring:
The y-axis is the up/down.
I found a paper during my psych degree research which theorised that inversion often comes down to perspective. Inverters apparently tend to view the camera as a physical mechanism wthin the virtual environment to be manipulated much like their neck would move to adjust the view in real life. Non-inverters allegedly see the environment purely as an interface so their logic dictates up be up and down be down.

Of course, we adapt to different styles, but I think our initial approach may indeed be dictated about whetther you use the creative or logical side of your brain.

Hrrrm... I should have done my thesis on this and not VR. :-/

Does that explain why I can only use invert while in third person?
Like in gears of war i can use either, but it drives me insane in Call of duty
Yeah, maybe because 3rd person promotes the notion of camera operation as opposed to perspective control.
That's really interesting. I might start inverting now. reminiscent of ambidexterity, somehow..
You don't get the same bragging rights, though..
 

DeviousCrypto

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ThatJagoGuy said:
I found a paper during my psych degree research which theorised that inversion often comes down to perspective. Inverters apparently tend to view the camera as a physical mechanism wthin the virtual environment to be manipulated much like their neck would move to adjust the view in real life. Non-inverters allegedly see the environment purely as an interface so their logic dictates up be up and down be down.

Of course, we adapt to different styles, but I think our initial approach may indeed be dictated about whetther you use the creative or logical side of your brain.
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Wait, that just says that inverters brains think the world inside the tv is REAL. The freaks...hehe.

Anyways, no.
 

wmh

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I can adapt pretty easily to either inverted or non-inverted but my preferences are as follows:

- When playing with a joystick/controller, I highly prefer inverting Y-axis.
- But when playing games (mostly FPS) on PC with mouse + keyboard setup, I tend not to invert.
 

Grayjack

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No matter the game, I need to invert it. It's more natural. When you are aiming a gun, you move the stock down to aim up and vice-versa.
 

CoverYourHead

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Depends. If I pick up a new game and the controls are inverted then I'll use them, the only problem comes when I try to switch back and forth a lot. But I don't really invert that much now because most games don't have it as the default.
 

Clashero

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Using a mouse-keyboard: no.
Using a controller: always. I can't NOT invert, it's unnatural.

My theory is that since I know how to fly a plane in real life, I have always known that pulling the stick back makes you go up and pushing the stick forward makes you go down, and doing anything else makes you crash.
Jast said:
I can't play a game unless the y-axis is inverted or I'll always be shooting the sun or my feet. Silent Hill: Homecoming didn't come with an inverted y-axis option (except for aiming I know) and it was one of the hardest gaming experiences just for that. *shame* Usually I wouldn't bother trying to re-teach my brain to work without it inverted but since I'm such a huge Silent Hill fan I be-grudgingly went on....painful experience.
That's the reason I hated that game. It tried to make me forget 10 years of muscle memory.
 

ThatJagoGuy

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Clashero said:
Using a mouse-keyboard: no.
Using a controller: always. I can't NOT invert, it's unnatural.

My theory is that since I know how to fly a plane in real life, I have always known that pulling the stick back makes you go up and pushing the stick forward makes you go down, and doing anything else makes you crash.
Jast said:
I can't play a game unless the y-axis is inverted or I'll always be shooting the sun or my feet. Silent Hill: Homecoming didn't come with an inverted y-axis option (except for aiming I know) and it was one of the hardest gaming experiences just for that. *shame* Usually I wouldn't bother trying to re-teach my brain to work without it inverted but since I'm such a huge Silent Hill fan I be-grudgingly went on....painful experience.
That's the reason I hated that game. It tried to make me forget 10 years of muscle memory.
What about if you're playing a flight-game with a mouse and keyboard?? Wouldn't your experience of stick-control mean that you'd want an inverted mouse?
 

Clashero

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ThatJagoGuy said:
Clashero said:
Using a mouse-keyboard: no.
Using a controller: always. I can't NOT invert, it's unnatural.

My theory is that since I know how to fly a plane in real life, I have always known that pulling the stick back makes you go up and pushing the stick forward makes you go down, and doing anything else makes you crash.
Jast said:
I can't play a game unless the y-axis is inverted or I'll always be shooting the sun or my feet. Silent Hill: Homecoming didn't come with an inverted y-axis option (except for aiming I know) and it was one of the hardest gaming experiences just for that. *shame* Usually I wouldn't bother trying to re-teach my brain to work without it inverted but since I'm such a huge Silent Hill fan I be-grudgingly went on....painful experience.
That's the reason I hated that game. It tried to make me forget 10 years of muscle memory.
What about if you're playing a flight-game with a mouse and keyboard?? Wouldn't your experience of stick-control mean that you'd want an inverted mouse?
1) I have my SideWinder right here next to me. The day is trade that in for a mouse is the day I die.
2) However, if by any chance I happened to play Flight Sim without a joystick, I'd opt out of using the mouse. Before buying the joystick I used the F1-F4 keys for the throttle, F5-F8 for the flaps, the number keys for the displays (GPS, radio, etc). I used the numpad for movement (I did, in fact, use it inverted. By pressing 8 I pitched down and pressing 2 made me go up).
The best use of the mouse in a flight sim game is for it to become like your hand. That way, you can manually reach the dials whose corresponding keyboard key you've forgotten, like the trims, the lights, the mixture, etc.

Addendum: When I played Battlefield 1942, I flew the planes with an inverted mouse.
 

Mezrev

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Never. It's horrible, I can't even begin to fathom how people can play with inveerted. Flight simulators being the exception to the rule.