Yes they do. I'm ashamed of the screw-ups in our secret service.The-Epicly-Named-Man said:Yeah this is pretty much how I feel. I mean, what I hear about the Gaza Strip is pretty awful, but I don't really know a lot about the situation. They get minus points for their secret service faking Irish passports though.kasperbbs said:I know nothing about it, except for what the news told me and they never say anything good about anything.
Ugh, I'm going to hate myself for responding to this, buuuuuuuuuuuuut......Comrade_Beric said:Many seem to believe that the entire reason for the conflict boils down to religion. While it is true that religion plays its role in both places, Palestine needs no religious excuse for their position.
Israel has to rely on religious literalism and international sympathy for the holocaust to excuse their behavior of stealing land, bombing civilians, and declaring their nation to be defined as racially Jewish. Palestinians need no such excuses. Some Arabs may speak of the conflict in religious terms, but their cause is political and, in my opinion, is entirely just. There are still people alive today who remember living on the land their fathers have owned for centuries. Palestinians are a group of people who, because of their non-Jewish status, have had their land simply taken from them and re-purposed for the occupation of a new, racially-defined, nation. I have nothing but sympathy for the Palestinians and to anyone who brings up the supposed terrorist acts done by them I say: Would the Russian Partisans or French Resistance have been as effective if they'd laid down their arms and begged the Nazis to only take half of Europe?
Yay. Another person that doesn't know what he's talking about.biggskanz said:Israel is a racist/apartheid state. I don't like Israel.
Israel? Fine.B.U.C.K said:How do all of you gamers out there feel about my homeland?
Did you know that you're giving money to Lebanon and Palestine (West Bank autonomy) too?VaderMan92 said:personally I don't see any thing wrong with Israel and I think the Jews should have their own homeland. That said the fact that the USA props up Israel with military and monetary aid is the reason most of the mid east hates us. But too late now its not like their gonna get un-pissed at us if we stop supporting them.
Everything you listed is a problem within the U.S. We have no priest in office but I can name a few Presidents who think they were. No non-Christian will ever hold office for the for-seeable future... Don't say JFK, to a Pagan like me Catholisicm is Christian (worship of Christ)TitanDrone said:I have never been to Israel so I voted I don't care.
I DO get a LOT of my daily news filled by stories about Israel vs. everyone and I want them to stop. If you live in Israel or have any influence over what goes on there, I kindly ask that you get your $%&# together and move in to the 21st century with the rest of us. Here are some pointers.
- don't divide your population along ethnic lines
- do not force a conflict when the courts can resolve disputes
- eliminate extremists' access to elected posts (don't vote for them.)
- don't allow religious arguments to influence politics (no priests or clergy may hold office.)
- make love, not war (sounds corny, but in the case of Israel it is still valid.)
And finally. Try your best not to turn up on my TV news any more. Failure to do so, will result in my support for a UN solution that revokes the rights of anyone to live there. I call it the kindergarten-solution. A solution often used when kids cannot agree to share toys; remove said toy from the equation. In this case the rights of ANYONE living there are in jeopardy because a small minority (on both sides,) insist on using violence, threats, forced re-settlement and other 18th century methods.
On behalf of the rest of the world: SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR FAIL COUNTRY.
Now back to playing computer games to Escape our dull reality.
Unless you count the massive overkill involved. Response to a rocket or bomb wit no casualties? Kill indiscriminately, even though they have the technology for precision. I have no tolerance for it when my own country does it (The US); I see no reason to support it when another does. It's like using a shotgun in a fistfight. It's unnecessary and monstrous.MoeTheMonk said:No reason not to support them.
Hey I don't want to be kicked out of my house in Nevada because some group of punks have religious claims to it! Why don't they get moved to Mexico, no Mexican want to live their for some reason...Exterminas said:No.
But I have to add that I have never been there and I am a german, so I got bombarded with guilt-inducing propaganda my whole life. Makes it kind of hard to like them.
In addition to that the whole middle-east conflict seems really silly to me. Why did they have to found Isreal there? Why couldn't it be somewhere in Nevada?
I mean Holy Places are one thing, but are they worth this kind of bullshit all the time?