Poll: Do you support evolution?

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I believe that the things we create can evolve. Art, technology and so on can evolve. But it's a shame how scientists who believe in intelligent design are being taken out of the picture. I couldn't believe that Bill the science guy and Lavar Burton (who I grew up watching reading rainbow with) passed off creationism as meaningless, antiquated fallacy.

I find that modern science is boring. The museum of Natural History is without wonder now because we can somehow explain everything. I don't want to know everything, and I certainly don't want to be able to explain everything. I want to socialize with people who have studied things that I haven't studied, and see where our knowledge connects.

I blame the extreme conservative people. They have no idea who they are representing - they represent themselves and call that God. It's ridiculous. So many people have been turned off by this extreme stance that we now have the opposite extreme - angry atheists who are just as bad.

This jaded desire to explain everything has crept into art and also video game design. Everyone wants things to be explained down to the minute detail, otherwise it's drivel. I'm not into it.

So I vote for Creationism b/c I really don't want to know everything that there is to know. I want to be kept informed, I want to continue learning, but I also want to be blown away when I learn something new. I don't want to be like Darwin who said quote: "A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections - a mere heart of stone".

I can not get down with that. It's called lying to yourself. What are we doing when we take our affections out of the equation entirely?

To be honest, anything without any empirical basis has no place in science, which certainly does include intelligent design. Though that's certainly not to say you are in any way obliged to find the scientific explanations interesting or correct. Also, though I disagree with your dislike of the scientific community's attempts to explain and understand as much as they can, I will say the universe is enormous, we probably hardly understand the even smallest fraction of it at this point, I really don't think there is any danger of science taking the mystery out of it quite yet.

 

[ShipofFools]

I don't believe it, I am utterly convinced of it's accuracy. Too many different disciplines confirm the same facts over and over again, it would be futile to fight it.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Well, yes, because we know it to be true.

What I find particularly frustrating is that, IIRC, it is more controversial now than when Darwin first published. At the time, most Christian either didn't care, or found it interesting to some degree. It didn't threaten their worldview, it wasn't something they had to hush up.

But then the Monkey Trial happened in Texas, and it became something that many Christians felt they had to oppose, because it somehow became part of their religion, for no good reason that I can see.

 

[Norah Arendt]

I object to the framing of this question~
The poll should be "Do you accept the fact of evolution" ;P

 

[Joccaren]

I believe in neither. 'Believe' implies some level of faith, implies that I do not know which is correct and which isn't but I have chosen anyway. This is not true. I KNOW Evolution is correct. It is an undeniable fact of life.

Certainly there are some claims made by evolution that have not been proven yet, and I take that with the same grain of salt I took the Higgs Boson with; Likely, but not yet proven.

There is no belief here.

 

[The White Hunter]

I'm a bit saddened that this is really a contest. The evidence is clearly in favour of evolution. I say this as a Christian.

So yes, Chalk me up as one for team science I guess.

You're a christian? Huh.

OT: I don't "believe" in evolution so much as I've read and viewed the evidence and it seems to make sense and be backed up by a lot of... well, evidence.

We can map out a lot of evolutionary paths for animals, we can find evolutionary dead ends too.

I'd really recommended people to watch some stuff like this:

And the follow up:

Oh and every time I see a lunatic argue that bananas are shaped for our hands by god or whatever I crack up.

Evolution is a thing, maybe some deity set the universe in motion, but nothing was created as it is now.

 

[Sonicron]

I see no reason why God can't have a place in our lives - after all, many people draw strength from their faith, which is by and large a good thing.
That said, I do not accept the G-man in a scientific context so long as his existence and involvement in the matter of evolution have not been proven. I just don't. Faith is faith, science is science. Pseudoscience like creation science (or its current cloak, intelligent design) is a load of theopolitical nonsense, and I get especially narky when it's being pushed on school kids.
Note that the views of creationism have merit for discussion in, say, literary and cultural studies. Just keep that stuff out of science class.

 

[Kielgasten]

Evolution is real, whether you believe it or not.. So the question is a bit moot.

 

[Barciad]

Define 'believe'. That we are still having conversations like this in the 21st Century depresses me intensely. When the Chinese et al. look at the things us westerners tie ourselves in knots over, they must feel very content indeed. I mean, religious dogma in this day and age?
I would strongly recommend for anyone to look at the documentary about the 2005 'Dover v Kitzmiller' case. You can find it quite easily on YouTube. It's about 2 hours long and does the job very admirably.

 

[Ryan Minns]

Where is the "I played Pokemon so DUH!" option :O

Though to answer the question. Yes, yes I do believe in it.

 

[BoredAussieGamer]

Doesn't matter what I believe. Reality doesn't give a damn about my opinions.

 

[CriticalMiss]

Can't religion be the answer to why, and evolution could be the how?

No. As the ancient proverb says: There can be only one!

I am firmly in the evolution treehouse, frolicking amongst the branches with my primate cousins. And the beauty of evolution is that it still occurs regardless of whether or not you believe it does. Kind of like all of the other scientific theories with lots of evidence behind them...

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Certainly, just as every sensible person, regardless of religion, does. Straight up, if you don't believe in evolution you're not bring sensible, and that's not a controversial statement. In fact this thread almost has no discussion value, really.

 

[zefichan]

I believe in Evolution like I believe in Gravity, Atoms and electricity.

Same thing.

 

[SinisterGehe]

I trust on science, since it can explain the world - and if it can't it will find a way.
Also since I do not think that god exists, I can not rely on the idea that god would have created life.

Also the existence of evolution is proven daily with DNA manipulation, selective breeding, mutations on bacteria and other small cell beings. Adaptation in existing animals to the new environments that humans expose them to. The constantly changing world is proof of power of evolution.

Scientist in labs have almost been able to create artificial biological cell that functions. No god or gods there.

What sparked the of amino acids starting to combine together and function is still unknown, but the research states: Biochemical reaction, some chemicals just want to combine with others.
Just the existence of Archaeans and such beings is powerful fact of the simplest form of living things can exist. There are even simpler things, viruses, that aren't even "living" things. And even simpler, molecules that able to combine other chemicals and produce clones. (Dna does this for example).

This is not matter of believe, this is matter of fact.

 

[Radoh]

Oh boy, this sure is a thing.
You are aware that about 98% of anyone religious does believe evolution to be a thing and that religious =/= creationist, yes?

So yeah, you'd be hard pressed to actually find someone who's a creationist.

I've seen more people zealously fight that Darwin to be the new god than I have people who zealously fight evolution.

 

[KeyMaster45]

Like I believe in gravity.

You should really stop believing in gravity. I did a few years ago and have saved tons on airfare, plus I get to float everywhere.

 

[4RM3D]

Evolution is a fact. The real question is how far does evolution goes back. (When did it begin?)

I don't believe (a) God created humans. But I am still open to the idea that (a) God planted the seeds from which we have evolved.

Thus I am impartial.