I don't believe it, I am utterly convinced of it's accuracy. Too many different disciplines confirm the same facts over and over again, it would be futile to fight it.
Poll: Do you support evolution?
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Well, yes, because we know it to be true.
What I find particularly frustrating is that, IIRC, it is more controversial now than when Darwin first published. At the time, most Christian either didn't care, or found it interesting to some degree. It didn't threaten their worldview, it wasn't something they had to hush up.
But then the Monkey Trial happened in Texas, and it became something that many Christians felt they had to oppose, because it somehow became part of their religion, for no good reason that I can see.
What I find particularly frustrating is that, IIRC, it is more controversial now than when Darwin first published. At the time, most Christian either didn't care, or found it interesting to some degree. It didn't threaten their worldview, it wasn't something they had to hush up.
But then the Monkey Trial happened in Texas, and it became something that many Christians felt they had to oppose, because it somehow became part of their religion, for no good reason that I can see.
I object to the framing of this question~
The poll should be "Do you accept the fact of evolution" ;P
The poll should be "Do you accept the fact of evolution" ;P
I believe in neither. 'Believe' implies some level of faith, implies that I do not know which is correct and which isn't but I have chosen anyway. This is not true. I KNOW Evolution is correct. It is an undeniable fact of life.
Certainly there are some claims made by evolution that have not been proven yet, and I take that with the same grain of salt I took the Higgs Boson with; Likely, but not yet proven.
There is no belief here.
Certainly there are some claims made by evolution that have not been proven yet, and I take that with the same grain of salt I took the Higgs Boson with; Likely, but not yet proven.
There is no belief here.
You're a christian? Huh.T0ad 0f Truth said:
OT: I don't "believe" in evolution so much as I've read and viewed the evidence and it seems to make sense and be backed up by a lot of... well, evidence.
We can map out a lot of evolutionary paths for animals, we can find evolutionary dead ends too.
I'd really recommended people to watch some stuff like this:
And the follow up:
Oh and every time I see a lunatic argue that bananas are shaped for our hands by god or whatever I crack up.
Evolution is a thing, maybe some deity set the universe in motion, but nothing was created as it is now.
I see no reason why God can't have a place in our lives - after all, many people draw strength from their faith, which is by and large a good thing.
That said, I do not accept the G-man in a scientific context so long as his existence and involvement in the matter of evolution have not been proven. I just don't. Faith is faith, science is science. Pseudoscience like creation science (or its current cloak, intelligent design) is a load of theopolitical nonsense, and I get especially narky when it's being pushed on school kids.
Note that the views of creationism have merit for discussion in, say, literary and cultural studies. Just keep that stuff out of science class.
That said, I do not accept the G-man in a scientific context so long as his existence and involvement in the matter of evolution have not been proven. I just don't. Faith is faith, science is science. Pseudoscience like creation science (or its current cloak, intelligent design) is a load of theopolitical nonsense, and I get especially narky when it's being pushed on school kids.
Note that the views of creationism have merit for discussion in, say, literary and cultural studies. Just keep that stuff out of science class.
Define 'believe'. That we are still having conversations like this in the 21st Century depresses me intensely. When the Chinese et al. look at the things us westerners tie ourselves in knots over, they must feel very content indeed. I mean, religious dogma in this day and age?
I would strongly recommend for anyone to look at the documentary about the 2005 'Dover v Kitzmiller' case. You can find it quite easily on YouTube. It's about 2 hours long and does the job very admirably.
I would strongly recommend for anyone to look at the documentary about the 2005 'Dover v Kitzmiller' case. You can find it quite easily on YouTube. It's about 2 hours long and does the job very admirably.
Where is the "I played Pokemon so DUH!" option :O
Though to answer the question. Yes, yes I do believe in it.
Though to answer the question. Yes, yes I do believe in it.
No. As the ancient proverb says: There can be only one!chozo_hybrid said:
I am firmly in the evolution treehouse, frolicking amongst the branches with my primate cousins. And the beauty of evolution is that it still occurs regardless of whether or not you believe it does. Kind of like all of the other scientific theories with lots of evidence behind them...
Certainly, just as every sensible person, regardless of religion, does. Straight up, if you don't believe in evolution you're not bring sensible, and that's not a controversial statement. In fact this thread almost has no discussion value, really.
I trust on science, since it can explain the world - and if it can't it will find a way.
Also since I do not think that god exists, I can not rely on the idea that god would have created life.
Also the existence of evolution is proven daily with DNA manipulation, selective breeding, mutations on bacteria and other small cell beings. Adaptation in existing animals to the new environments that humans expose them to. The constantly changing world is proof of power of evolution.
Scientist in labs have almost been able to create artificial biological cell that functions. No god or gods there.
What sparked the of amino acids starting to combine together and function is still unknown, but the research states: Biochemical reaction, some chemicals just want to combine with others.
Just the existence of Archaeans and such beings is powerful fact of the simplest form of living things can exist. There are even simpler things, viruses, that aren't even "living" things. And even simpler, molecules that able to combine other chemicals and produce clones. (Dna does this for example).
This is not matter of believe, this is matter of fact.
Also since I do not think that god exists, I can not rely on the idea that god would have created life.
Also the existence of evolution is proven daily with DNA manipulation, selective breeding, mutations on bacteria and other small cell beings. Adaptation in existing animals to the new environments that humans expose them to. The constantly changing world is proof of power of evolution.
Scientist in labs have almost been able to create artificial biological cell that functions. No god or gods there.
What sparked the of amino acids starting to combine together and function is still unknown, but the research states: Biochemical reaction, some chemicals just want to combine with others.
Just the existence of Archaeans and such beings is powerful fact of the simplest form of living things can exist. There are even simpler things, viruses, that aren't even "living" things. And even simpler, molecules that able to combine other chemicals and produce clones. (Dna does this for example).
This is not matter of believe, this is matter of fact.
Oh boy, this sure is a thing.
You are aware that about 98% of anyone religious does believe evolution to be a thing and that religious =/= creationist, yes?
So yeah, you'd be hard pressed to actually find someone who's a creationist.
I've seen more people zealously fight that Darwin to be the new god than I have people who zealously fight evolution.
You are aware that about 98% of anyone religious does believe evolution to be a thing and that religious =/= creationist, yes?
So yeah, you'd be hard pressed to actually find someone who's a creationist.
I've seen more people zealously fight that Darwin to be the new god than I have people who zealously fight evolution.
You should really stop believing in gravity. I did a few years ago and have saved tons on airfare, plus I get to float everywhere.Kaulen Fuhs said:
I'm a catholic, the Catholic church has never denied evolution, we fully embrace it along with nearly all branches of Christianity and Judaism. Only the most extreme religious groups I would think still refuse to believe in evolution.
And I find this "Team God" and "Team Science" thing pretty offensive.
And I find this "Team God" and "Team Science" thing pretty offensive.
I believe in evolution. In the same way I believe that the sun rises in the morning and that meadowlarks have a more elaborate call than other grassland birds.
Evolution is a demonstrable fact. If memory serves, even the Pope has acknowledged to this, and based on my own research, there are no conflicting passages in the Catholic or Protestant texts. Albeit I was coming from a position of cultural curiosity, not religious endeavor, but I still couldn't find any directly conflicting passages.
Now thinking about it's made me curious. Are there other religions or creeds that deny proven Evolutionary Theory and Laws?
Evolution is a demonstrable fact. If memory serves, even the Pope has acknowledged to this, and based on my own research, there are no conflicting passages in the Catholic or Protestant texts. Albeit I was coming from a position of cultural curiosity, not religious endeavor, but I still couldn't find any directly conflicting passages.
Now thinking about it's made me curious. Are there other religions or creeds that deny proven Evolutionary Theory and Laws?