Poll: Early Killzone 2 reviews

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Zenn3k

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Wait, so you disagree & agree with me at the same time?

Its fairly accurate to what gaming mags/sites do. IGN, GI, Gamespot, you name it...they follow the basic above formula.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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93 from 36 Reviews on Metacritics is nothing to sneer at folks. I think this one might be a winner.
 

Xvito

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WTF... Is wrong with this thread?! Since when did all journalists turn into greedy creeps who only care about money?

Why do people believe that they accept money for better review scores?
Seriously... I mean, come on people.
 

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An interesting pattern crops up with these things. It's not perfect, but it's what I've noticed.

If it's a really hyped up game, but it turns out to be bad (ala Too Human), developers wait until the game is out until they review it.

If a game is really hyped up, and it's "OMG TEH AWESUMz", then the reviews pop up earlier than when it is released, sometimes a month or two before it's released.

I'm not saying it's a perfect pattern, but it's what I've noticed and it's consistent enough for me to conclude the pattern.

I personally have preordered Killzone 2 off Amazon, and I'm excited for it. It may not "innovate" but it looks like it polishes already existing features in FPSs to a near mirror shine (both figuratively and literally).
 

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Xvito said:
WTF... Is wrong with this thread?! Since when did all journalists turn into greedy creeps who only care about money?
Money makes the world go round.
 

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Killzone 2 looks kinda fun, and it scored just0.1 higher than resistance 2 on gametrailers. Hmmmmm....Resistance 2 or killzone 2? Both are very fun, both have awesome weapons, both have a great singleplayer campaign, both have great multiplyer, but resistance 2 has got 8-player co-op. And yet, i still can't decide.
 

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I was worrying a bit about the reviews at the beginning, since none of them really looked that much at the actual game. And droned on about different degrees of hype and expectations dating back to the e3 trailer, that I still haven't seen. Or reduced the plot to a sentence with three words. Or spent 3/4 of the review on how the game may or may not be the second coming of Jesus.

Sort of ruined my entire "the game- engine shows off dynamic geometry instead of wallpaper draped over deformed quads, this is crazy" thing.

But the videos look good - and we're getting the demo on thursday. So we'll see.

Something still worries me, though - apparently you're not playing a hero saving the world while a disembodied voice drives you on to slaughter for mankind and mom's cooking. And.. the reviews are still overwhelmingly positive. Something's definitively wrong here.
 

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D_987 said:
Xvito said:
WTF... Is wrong with this thread?! Since when did all journalists turn into greedy creeps who only care about money?
Money makes the world go round.
That doesn't mean it's all that anyone cares about...
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Goldeneye103X2 said:
Killzone 2 looks kinda fun, and it scored just0.1 higher than resistance 2 on gametrailers. Hmmmmm....Resistance 2 or killzone 2? Both are very fun, both have awesome weapons, both have a great singleplayer campaign, both have great multiplyer, but resistance 2 has got 8-player co-op. And yet, i still can't decide.
Killzone 2 has Bots, which is quite useful if you're offline.
True, but now i'm even more confused. DAMMIT!!
 

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Danzorz said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Danzorz said:
There is a damn good chance all the reviewers are being paid off...
Even Tycho?
Yes,
Even Tycho, you will be surprised what happens to review scores once money is shown.
Except if you read today's comic, you'll see that both Gabe and Tycho agree that KZ2 is worth crossing the desert and parting the Red (Ring of Death) Sea to play.

The comic just updated and the rant won't for a while, but it's clearly obvious from the face of the "Moses" parting the sea that it's the Killzone mask.

Since I know both of them personally, I'm a little offended that you'd think money is a bigger factor than fun. Money's never really been a factor with them - their integrity is what actually makes more money than shilling a game (it's how they've been around so long and can run a convention like PAX with so many varied developers that are direct enemies outside of PAX).

But I'm just a little offended. Every now and then, even I think Jerry deserves a kick in the pants for being slightly smug and resorting to bad puns in-comic.
 

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That's why I read the Destructoid reviews, because most of the time, their review is at least a few weeks from the game's launch, be it a AAA or not. Late reviews are usually the most truthful, because it means that the reviewer has more likely than not played the game to death to point out the good and the bad.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
BladesofReason said:
One of the most believeable reviews I've seen so far has actually come from the Official Xbox Blog. Seeing them review Killzone 2 and give it a positive review surprised me, though I generally do take early reviews with a healthy amout of skeptecism
How on earth is that believeable? Thats going to be one of the most negative reviews the game receives.
It seemed like a pretty positive review to me... Also the review was the first that I had read that pointed out specific problems with the game (specific graphical issues such as a random texture shading problem here or there etc) but it also brought up a great deal of specific praise. It just caught me off guard a little.
 

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Doesn't anyone remember the Metal Gear Solid 4 fiasco?

This is what a publisher does:

They send a contract to a magazine. The contract says that they will get an early copy of the game if they agree to the following conditions: if they give the game a 80 or higher, they can publish the review early. People who are desperate for news on the game will click in droves, generating much needed cash for the magazine.

If they give it below an 80, they will not publish the review until release day. They will just be one of many reviews at that point.

Ergo, the only early reviews that are going to get published are positive. It is in no way a fair look at the game.
 

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L.B. Jeffries said:
Doesn't anyone remember the Metal Gear Solid 4 fiasco?

This is what a publisher does:

They send a contract to a magazine. The contract says that they will get an early copy of the game if they agree to the following conditions: if they give the game a 80 or higher, they can publish the review early. People who are desperate for news on the game will click in droves, generating much needed cash for the magazine.

If they give it below an 80, they will not publish the review until release day. They will just be one of many reviews at that point.

Ergo, the only early reviews that are going to get published are positive. It is in no way a fair look at the game.

Thats a fairly strong accusation, where are your sources for it? Even if it is true compare the companies for a moment. One side you have a huge company called Konami. ((Or they used to be huge anyway.)) On the other side you have Guerilla Games which in the span of it's inception has created... One, two, three, four titles. At least I think it's four titles I had to count them up in my head.
 

L.B. Jeffries

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Harbinger_ said:
Thats a fairly strong accusation, where are your sources for it? Even if it is true compare the companies for a moment. One side you have a huge company called Konami. ((Or they used to be huge anyway.)) On the other side you have Guerilla Games which in the span of it's inception has created... One, two, three, four titles. At least I think it's four titles I had to count them up in my head.
I don't have any proof other than that it's just business as usual for people. There's no way to know how valid these reviews are or how controlled they are because any agreement is also going to ask they don't talk about the time limits.

All I'm saying is that I don't consider early reviews worth checking because you have no idea what's going on with them.
 

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L.B. Jeffries said:
Harbinger_ said:
Thats a fairly strong accusation, where are your sources for it? Even if it is true compare the companies for a moment. One side you have a huge company called Konami. ((Or they used to be huge anyway.)) On the other side you have Guerilla Games which in the span of it's inception has created... One, two, three, four titles. At least I think it's four titles I had to count them up in my head.
I don't have any proof other than that it's just business as usual for people. There's no way to know how valid these reviews are or how controlled they are because any agreement is also going to ask they don't talk about the time limits.

All I'm saying is that I don't consider early reviews worth checking because you have no idea what's going on with them.

So in other words, you're pulling it out of your ass.