Rastrelly said:
-In F3 a random guy suggests you to blow up the nuke in a city for reward.
-food supplies? fuck 'em!
-trade routes? fuck em!
-shops full of eatable food? fuck yeah!
-electricity in postapocalyptic bombarded ruins? fucking everywhere!).
-And? New Vegas suggests you let a brutal slave empire enslave all the people of the wasteland, while raping all the women, and killing all the elderly and crippled, because they are more "safe".
-They have plenty of food supplies, there are many randomly encountered bands of hunter NPCs that carry meats of most types of animal, and dialog from NPCs, and items found on all NPCs person, confirm they eat those things, as well as food items found in food stores.
On top of that, they have scavengers who comb the ruins for pre-war food, and a large supply trade with the point lookout area, from both Tobar the ferryman, and the smugglers, enough to keep every major food shop in the wasteland supplied with punga regularly.
And to further supplement that, it's mentioned that Rivet City trades fresh food grown in its hydroponics bay for scrap metal to fix the boat, and mutfruit is harvested from the various bushes around the D.C. area.
-What? Fallout 3 DOES have trade routes, there's 4 major caravans that walk it.
Heres the map of it
-It would takes quite a while to clean out every pre-war building in a city as large as DC. Especially given that most people would have tried eating the animals first, which they do.
-You are aware that fission batteries are literally NUCLEAR reactors and have power to last for hundreds, and possibly thousand,so of years?
Rastrelly said:
Plot revolves around plausible conflict.
New Vegas
1. The entire "find Benny" plotline is ridiculous, and nonsensical. The courier, who has no real weapons, armor, skills, or money, who just got easily overpowered and nearly killed by this guy, has no idea where he is, or any reasonable expectation that he could beat Benny, going after him regardless is nothing but pure psychosis. Even Sawyer admitted it was a stretch and that they should have let the player leave the mojave via the Mojave outpost since going after Benny is something most people wouldn't logically do.
2. The next major plot arc, aka the NCR/Legion war, is even more stupid because the NCR should EASILY overpower the Legion without trying, and have only failed to do so because they were made into almost loony toon levels of incompetent, while the Legion has been played as these god like master of spying who have managed to infiltrate nearly every level of the NCR military without trying.
3. No one except House has ANY reason need or want the couriers help, since they have trained diplomats or spies to do everything they do ask you to do in the main plot quests, and the "BUT THEY NEED YOU TO GET OT HOUSE!" argument is bull since House can do nothing, and his small force of securotrons could be easily overcome by the NCR, Legion, or even the BoS, and without you, he would never get his large robot army, or upgrades.
Fallout 3
-Man tries to save people of the wasteland by creating a device that can mass purify water in the scale needed to farm.
-Man gives up goal after constant failure to try to at least give his child, which his wife died giving birth to, a good life
-After realizing his child no longer needs him, he tries to go back and finish what he failed at many years ago, still haunted by his inability to help the people of the wastes
-Child going after him because they were thrown out of the vault, and his father is the only remnant of the only life he ever knew.
-Father sacrificing his life to prevent people trying to use his device as a weapon of genocide.
-Fathers equally powerful old friends understanding the anger the player feels, but unwilling send to send against a force just as, if not more so, powerful then they are to recover a device they know doesn't work, and the thing that might make it work is nearly a fairy tale.
-The BoS then going after the Enclave after the child has the missing part stolen from him, since the Encalve can now actually use it as a weapon of genocide, as feared.
Now which is more plausible?
Smilomaniac said:
In Fallout New Vegas, every town you come across has some sort of renewable food source.
Except Primm, Novac, Nelson, and Nipton.