Poll: Father in rural Germany finds his young son likes to wear dresses; does the same to show solidarity.

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General Twinkletoes

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JeffBergGold said:
The times I've been called arrogant it has always been by an insecure person. If I come across as arrogant I really can't do anything about it. Most people find me of above average confidence though.
Wouldn't you call being scared that an effeminate man will harm your masculinity insecure? You've shown traits of being both insecure and quite arrogant throughout this entire thread.


OT: Awesome dad! I probably wouldn't put on a dress myself, I would feel pretty weird, (I don't feel weird about other people doing it though, to be clear) but I sure as hell wouldn't stop him. I don't get the people saying "He shouldn't do it because it gets him shit" Shouldn't it be the bullies we should be punishing, since this has no negative consequences?
 

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GeneralTwinkle said:
Wouldn't you call being scared that an effeminate man will harm your masculinity insecure?
No.

GeneralTwinkle said:
You've shown traits of being both insecure and quite arrogant throughout this entire thread.
I disagree. However, you will see whatever you want to see.
 

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JeffBergGold said:
GeneralTwinkle said:
Wouldn't you call being scared that an effeminate man will harm your masculinity insecure?
No.
It seems you were insecure enough to think that they were threatening you by being effeminate. That sounds pretty insecure about to me. What else would it be?
 

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GeneralTwinkle said:
It seems you were insecure enough to think that they were threatening you by being effeminate. That sounds pretty insecure about to me. What else would it be?
Being disgusted and revolted are different from being threatened.
 

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JeffBergGold said:
GeneralTwinkle said:
It seems you were insecure enough to think that they were threatening you by being effeminate. That sounds pretty insecure about to me. What else would it be?
Being disgusted and revolted are different from being threatened.
JeffBergGold said:
I know it's not a good reason. I just know that male femininity illicits a strong response in me. When I see or am around an effeminate male It feels as if I am being personally attacked.
If that's so, why do you feel like you're being personally attacked? If you feel attacked by them, surely that means you're threatened? What could make you feel as if you're being attacked unless you were insecure about your masculinity?
 

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GeneralTwinkle said:
If that's so, why do you feel like you're being personally attacked?
Because I believe the only reason a guy would be effeminate is to troll me.
GeneralTwinkle said:
If you feel attacked by them, surely that means you're threatened?
I can feel attacked without being threatened. For example if you were to physically attack me I would not feel threatened.
GeneralTwinkle said:
What could make you feel as if you're being attacked unless you were insecure about your masculinity?
I stated why already because I think it's groce. You will get the same response every time you ask that question.
 

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JeffBergGold said:
I can feel attacked without being threatened. For example if you were to physically attack me I would not feel threatened.
There's being proud of being muscular, and then there's just being arrogant for the lulz. You can think you're awesome, but you don't have to lord about how cool and strong you are to everyone else.
Really, effeminate men aren't there to troll you, or to infect you with the virus. You're not that important. They're effeminate because that's the way they are.

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Woah. You've gone and opened a can of issues here. I'd run for the hills, man. Shit's gonna get all kinds of Dr. Phil.
It's been fairly tame so far, actually.
 

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JeffBergGold said:
GeneralTwinkle said:
If that's so, why do you feel like you're being personally attacked?
Because I believe the only reason a guy would be effeminate is to troll me.
and THAT right there...is kind of fucked up

EDIT: also I think you meant "gross"
 

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GeneralTwinkle said:
There's being proud of being muscular, and then there's just being arrogant for the lulz. You can think you're awesome, but you don't have to lord about how cool and strong you are to everyone else.
I usually don't but this thread, actually this site, makes it so fun to do so.

GeneralTwinkle said:
Really, effeminate men aren't there to troll you, or to infect you with the virus. You're not that important. They're effeminate because that's the way they are.
You're probably right.
 

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Boudica said:
Woah. You've gone and opened a can of issues here. I'd run for the hills, man. Shit's gonna get all kinds of Dr. Phil.
do you think steriods can affect reasoning ability?
 

Vault101

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JeffBergGold said:
Vault101 said:
do you think steriods can affect reasoning ability?
That is not very nice.
neather is...

JeffBergGold said:
Because I believe the only reason a guy would be effeminate is to troll me.

I stated why already because I think it's groce. You will get the same response every time you ask that question.
that

and I got alot more to choose from too, ok sure, my joke may have been a little snarky but honestly....pot kettle black and everything
 

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JeffBergGold said:
I stated why already because I think it's groce. You will get the same response every time you ask that question.
That's a really shallow response. "Because it's icky" is a child's response. An adults response would include at least an attempt at rationalization, "It's icky because X". Solve for X.
 

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Dags90 said:
JeffBergGold said:
I stated why already because I think it's groce. You will get the same response every time you ask that question.
That's a really shallow response. "Because it's icky" is a child's response. An adults response would include at least an attempt at rationalization, "It's icky because X".
Not everyone can be deep man... put the gif in spoilers its creepy. I already stated I don't have a good reason. give me a break.
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JeffBergGold said:
Vault101 said:
do you think steriods can affect reasoning ability?
That is not very nice.
neather is...

JeffBergGold said:
Because I believe the only reason a guy would be effeminate is to troll me.

I stated why already because I think it's groce. You will get the same response every time you ask that question.
that

and I got alot more to choose from too, ok sure, my joke may have been a little snarky but honestly....pot kettle black and everything
Be the bigger person. Figuratively of course.
 

Vault101

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JeffBergGold said:
Not everyone can be deep man... put the gif in spoilers its creepy. I already stated I don't have a good reason. give me a break.
its not about being "deep" its about being an adult and comting to terms with the fact that not everyone is like you

[quote/]Be the bigger person. Figuratively of course.[/quote]

sure..but a alittle introspection never hurt anyone..just saying
 

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Denamic said:
My mom wears pants.
Outrageous!
My grandma actually refuses to wear pants. I didn't see her in pants until I was 21 and she was in a rehab facility for blood clots.
 

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Abandon4093 said:
To be honest, at 5 he's probably going to grow out of it anyway. It's likely not an expression of his gender so much as it is he likes the breeze.
Exactly. :D
 

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I'd stop him wearing the dresses to be honest, but that's because I like to avoid this kind of attention.

If he wanted to do it once he understood what it meant to the rest of the world and was old enough to go out without me holding his hand then whatever.

But I would most certainly NOT wear one myself, my legs would be too hairy.