Saulkar said:
StBishop said:
Adam Grove said:
I think rehab/tons of comunty servic should be sufficent, besides she already has to deal with the embaressment of having this article online for the whole world to read
Saulkar said:
While I have no problem with underage sexual encounters between individuals (as long as it is wholly consensual with absolutely no coercion), there has to be a certain age limit to which this should be allowed, eg. A 20 year old woman/guy with a 14 year old girl/boy or vice verse compared to a 40 year old Guy/Girl with a 14 year old Guy/Girl. Personally I do not feel that any harm would come with an age gap of 6 years (progressively narrowing the gap the younger the people get) but I draw a hard line made of bricks and mortar when it comes to someone drugging a person to cognitively compromise them making it easier to coerce them, or to coerce them in general.
So in the end I feel that unless she did the boy any physical harm or caused extensive cognitive trauma, she should receive a (high) fine and community service.
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Now drop down flip it and reverse it,[/outdated pop culture reference] you got a 20 year old bloke getting a 14 year old girl drunk and raping her.
If you feel that your response is still valid I don't really know what else to say.
In your mind imagine this dude:
with this girl:
What is the cognitive level of the girl?
Has the guy a history of violent acts or sexual assault?
What are their personality types?
Do not send me random pictures, give me a fully evaluated description of the two people you showed (those two specific people). I cannot tell shit from looking at them. People think I am a 30 year old steroid pushing rivet head biker but I am a 19 year old Jim Carry who likes leather. Would you tell that just by looking at me?
This makes me believe further in a system that evaluates an individual on their mental and sexual aptitude and development. Say you have someone who wants to start having sex under age say 12 or 13 but you do not know how capable they are. In that case I believe there should be an specialized aptitude test that evaluates an individual and determines whether or not they are ready. In the event that the individual wants to have a sexual encounter with someone who is like 5-10 years older than them, those people should also be (anonymously unless they commit a crime) registered following a similar test (more like an interview followed by a period of observation as a written test can easily be cheated) so that not only do you have a face, you have an ID that can allow you to track them down quickly. But none the less with such a complicated system many more might just forgo it and commit the act illegally. Here in Canada there was much opposition towards the age of consent being raised from 14 to 16. Reason being is because it would do nothing to stop underage sex and because it was made illegal, rape and abuse victims would be less likely to report it as they had broken the law.
The age of consent law in itself is all encompassing rather than tailored to the individual as not all people are created equal.
I don't know them, I just googled "Creepy 20 year old guy" and "young teen" to illustrate my point.
What I'm getting at is that regardless of gender or "hotness" she's commited a crime that would be seen as horrific if the genders had been reversed, and that based only on the facts we've been given the only logical option is (in my opinion) incarceration.
Sure there
are kids who're ready to have sex at 14, they're not the rule though, they're the exception. I think plenty of people wish they'd waited to lose their virginity, just as there are probably people who wish it'd happened earlier.
The thing is, it's easier and safer to legislate on the side of caution with children rather than have a very subjective system which is wide open to abuse.
Also, on the topic of abuse victims worrying about breaking the law. I have never heard of an abuse victim worrying about that, ever. I may not know of a great deal of cases but that tends to be further down the lists of priorities, somewhere after the perp not being put away and things getting worse etc.