Aw yeah you know itHaseo21 said:I like the goth girls that we saw in the 90's that wore victorian dresses, im into that
That's just the immature kiddies who think that's what Goth is. Most Goths who know their shit (as far as I know) aren't like that and are mostly in it because they like the clothes/music/whatever and are otherwise pretty normal.Popadoo said:I hate goth clothing, not because of the clothes but because of the people wearing them.
Goths act like they have problems when their life is fine, and then it's people with real problems that have to put up with the fuckers.
That sums it up quite nicely, actually.LadyMint said:It's not really the clothes I mind so much as the attitude that goes with it. Most goths I run into are teenaged know-nothings who just want to upset adults and parrot whatever negative catchphrase they've heard a million times about how life sucks. And usually their lives are pretty damn good because they have parents who can not only afford the prices at Hot Topic, but are also weak-kneed OR free-spirited enough to allow them to leave their houses dressed like carnie folk from the County Fair of the Damned.
It's the ones who dress freakish but still have a good attitude about life that I enjoy being around. I think some Goth outfits can be very sexy and fashionable, but a pretentious and negative attitude can be the worst fashion accessory.
I believe the equivalent would be kodona. You could just be a brolita.Eldarion said:Me too. I wish there was a male equivalent.PaulH said:I'm quite fond of lolita ...
Yeah, pretty muchGeneric Gamer said:It's funny, quite a lot of the goths I knew had the attitude of "I hate it when people stare at me just because I look different".Amazon warrior said:*nods* I freely admit that my knowledge of the goth sub-culture is lacking, but my impression has always been that showmanship plays a big part. It's making a statement, and that requires a lot of self-confidence. It's the reason I was always rather impressed by the girl I used to see wearing a top-hat around Uni.
Bullshit.
To wear a long coat, a corset, thigh high PVC boots and a spiked collar you have to enjoy having attention, if you didn't you'd never consider dressing like that in the first place. If you don't enjoy attention you try to shrink into the scenery, but most gothic fashion is designed to make you stand out. By wearing it you're basically agreeing to getting stared at and you've got to play up to it. Goth fashion looks villainous in a lot of cases, it's very grandiose so you've got to have a bit of a moustache-twirling mentality to pull it off. You're going to get everyone in a room staring at you and you can't tell them off for it because you've deliberately caused it, you've got to own the room.
Though I'd barely call 'goth' a lifestyle, it is more an aesthetic school to me. I don't really think there's enough to goth to really fill a lifestyle adequately.
Heh! Explains a lot...Generic Gamer said:Well if films are to be believed (which they are) it was probably a freak lightning storm. We'll probably have a string of unrelated adventures each, occasionally saying things that segue nicely into the other person's conversation to allow dramatic cross cutting. Eventually there will be a heart rending scene as one sacrifices themselves to allow the other to live.
I'll be played by Jim Carrey.
Goths sacked it, Vandals took over it later.Kenko said:That'd be the vandals my friend.... Or did the Goths do it as well?HerbertTheHamster said:To be a real goth you have to go to sack Rome.
In every genre there are unpleasant people. I know more goths who don't act in the way you've described that who do.Popadoo said:I hate goth clothing, not because of the clothes but because of the people wearing them.
Goths act like they have problems when their life is fine, and then it's people with real problems that have to put up with the fuckers.
I don't think I could survive very long if I cared how people viewed me based on my clothes. But I dress for my environment, not for atheistics or pleasure, so people see me dressed to suit where I am and what I'm doing.Bloodstain said:Oh yes, I too have that problem. I fear people regard me as "wannabe-edgy" or something, but I just like coats... :/ThreeWords said:Goths can look good, but thats not to say that they all do. Personally, i'd love to be able to pull off a Gothic outfit, but I feel uncomfortably pretentious just wearing my longcoat...
Exactly!Monkfish Acc. said:Your style doesn't need to dictate who you are, jackass.
Hardly a reasonable statement. Most of what I design can be worn as corporate office wear as well as 'goth'. It all depends on what you wear with it. I dress the way I do because I find mainstream fashion to be vomit inducing, not because I want attention.Projo said:Gothic clothing and accessories are pretentious and showy. It is nothing but an attention grabbing deviation from the norm, designed purely to turn heads, and if you as a designer disagree then are simply full of yourself.
Goth fashion is excellent. Sure, it can look crappy but so can ANY clothes if you wear them wrong, or they don't suit you.Shuswah_Noir said:Having been posting in the "Fashion accessories that piss you off" thread, I noticed a few people complaining about gothic clothing.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.270090-Fashion-accessories-that-piss-you-off
Being a kind of goth, alternative fashion designer, corsetiere (I make authentic waist reducing body training corsets using steel bones), and general weirdo, I'm used to it. But it always fascinates me to know why people feel that way. I can understand why people don't find it aesthetically pleasing (I feel the same way about mainstream fashions).
So what about it don't you like? Indulge my curiosities, if you will.
Or, if you like it, let me know what about it you like and why.
You don't need a girlfriend who does gothic fetish modelling.. Just pictures/videos of it happening. I site Apnea (Apneatic). But I see you're point, it would help.BonsaiK said:Goth fashion is excellent. Sure, it can look crappy but so can ANY clothes if you wear them wrong, or they don't suit you.Shuswah_Noir said:Having been posting in the "Fashion accessories that piss you off" thread, I noticed a few people complaining about gothic clothing.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.270090-Fashion-accessories-that-piss-you-off
Being a kind of goth, alternative fashion designer, corsetiere (I make authentic waist reducing body training corsets using steel bones), and general weirdo, I'm used to it. But it always fascinates me to know why people feel that way. I can understand why people don't find it aesthetically pleasing (I feel the same way about mainstream fashions).
So what about it don't you like? Indulge my curiosities, if you will.
Or, if you like it, let me know what about it you like and why.
Anyone who dislikes goth fashion obviously doesn't have a girlfriend who does gothic fetish modelling.
I have to disagree with you. A person's style is their style. Just because someone's own style isn't the accepted norm and is commonly bashed in the media doesn't make it childish and something to 'grow out of'.Layzor said:It's fine when you're young, but it's definately something you're supposed to grow out of.