A possible threat vs. a Culture ship: Possibly the ship from Destination: Void by Frank Herbert. [small]hope I'm not ninja'd [/small]SakSak said:snip
I doubt that. However, if they have the same point-to-point jump capability that ships in Dune-verse have, possibly. Let's be honest, no weaponry of any single ship could penetrate the protective fields of a Culture GSV. However, a suicide run by physically jumping into it and bypassing the protective fields and instant-response ability of the Minds might work.Captain Blackout said:A possible threat vs. a Culture ship: Possibly the ship from Destination: Void by Frank Herbert. [small]hope I'm not ninja'd [/small]SakSak said:snip
The Void ship (for lack of a better term) was a ship undergoing change, an apotheosis (if I have my terms right). At the start of the novel the Void ship couldn't even take the lowliest of attack ships. At the end of the novel, however...SakSak said:I doubt that. However, if they have the same point-to-point jump capability that ships in Dune-verse have, possibly. Let's be honest, no weaponry of any single ship could penetrate the protective fields of a Culture GSV. However, a suicide run by physically jumping into it and bypassing the protective fields and instant-response ability of the Minds might work.Captain Blackout said:A possible threat vs. a Culture ship: Possibly the ship from Destination: Void by Frank Herbert. [small]hope I'm not ninja'd [/small]SakSak said:snip
Then again, I'm unsure if the Mind could simply prevent this jumping ability, by locally changing physics via effector fields.
But considering I do not know for sure how the drive mechanism of the ships in Void work I'm not sure - considering the need for a caretaker crew seems to imply some kind of reaction drive or space-bending Alcubierre drive rather than a space-folding drive; rendering even a suicide run useless.
True, hadn't considered that. But, then again to put things in perspective... The Culture has to grow the Minds to become flawed constructs. Because they noticed early on that perfect AIs tend to instantly seek Sublimation and usually achieve it quite fast. Subliming is a process that allows an individual or an entire civilization to transfer the consciousness from the material universe to another plane of existence. And while they usually stay out of 'mortal' affairs, there are exceptions. Such as in Look To Windward there is an extremely long-lived zeppelin-like creatures called behemothaurs. While intelligent, they appear to be easy targets for exploitation, study and capture by any species capable of space-flight. However, a Sublimed race apparently looks over the hapless gasbags: any who mess with them tends to go extinct. At a species level. Without a trace.Captain Blackout said:The Void ship (for lack of a better term) was a ship undergoing change, an apotheosis (if I have my terms right). At the start of the novel the Void ship couldn't even take the lowliest of attack ships. At the end of the novel, however...SakSak said:I doubt that. However, if they have the same point-to-point jump capability that ships in Dune-verse have, possibly. Let's be honest, no weaponry of any single ship could penetrate the protective fields of a Culture GSV. However, a suicide run by physically jumping into it and bypassing the protective fields and instant-response ability of the Minds might work.Captain Blackout said:A possible threat vs. a Culture ship: Possibly the ship from Destination: Void by Frank Herbert. [small]hope I'm not ninja'd [/small]SakSak said:snip
Then again, I'm unsure if the Mind could simply prevent this jumping ability, by locally changing physics via effector fields.
But considering I do not know for sure how the drive mechanism of the ships in Void work I'm not sure - considering the need for a caretaker crew seems to imply some kind of reaction drive or space-bending Alcubierre drive rather than a space-folding drive; rendering even a suicide run useless.
If I don't miss my guess, the Void ship could reach across the galaxy, and maybe further, and terra-form a planet instantly. My only question is range of the Void ships powers, which may be unlimited at the end of the revised version of the book.
So what happens when a GSV goes up against a GSV?
What happens when my Void ship has longer range than your GSV.
Frank Herbert FTW...
One of my questions was not just for thought, I'm really curious: What happens when a GSV goes up against a GSV?SakSak said:*snip*
Oh god pick me pick me!Demon ID said:Snip
The Culture is possibly one of the softest sci-fi series out there, no question about that.Captain Blackout said:One of my questions was not just for thought, I'm really curious: What happens when a GSV goes up against a GSV?SakSak said:*snip*
Also: Don't get me started on sublimation. I read Wikipedia on The Culture. I learned damn near everything I needed to know when I read about the Dra'Zon. There's almost a full summary of The Culture right there.
The author of the series, I'm going to guess, has to do an awful lot of hand-waving to make it all work......