Poll: Is It The Same As Filming Porn

[Disco110]

I think you asking the wrong question, dont look at it as which one would i feel batter about filming based on morals. base it on which one you will enjoy more to actually film. you say that you dont want to film porn as you dont think that it will be a good use of your artistic telents, but are you going to be able to use more of your talent filming people spreading the word, as i guess the quality of a religious film would be more focussed on the content rather than the quality of the film style, as all the film needs to be is to be watchable rather than particularly aesthetically pleasing.

Whereas, on the other hand, a porn film is all about the visuals, and can be much improved by good shooting and editing. A well shot porn film looks 100 times better than a bad one with the same content. porn doesn't have to be about simple human lusts and urges, but can be an art form just like any other, and i dont know about you, but I would rather watch an amazingly pretty film or well shot short production on nothing particularly important, (which is what proper art is btw), than sit through an infomercial on a subject that goes against my moral standings.

its up to you in the end, but ask yourself which would be better to make from a completely neutral point of view in terms of matirial, and see which one you could make better. (look at how many bad porn films and how many dull infomercials there are in the world that you could do 10 times better)

also, there is always a market for porn, and it probably pays better to

 

[mazeut]

"Aggressively reach out", to me that phrase alone is a big warning sign. It makes me think of those Christian rock bands (or rap), the really bad ones that obviously don't really like the music their playing but thought they could "reach out" with it. I'm sure the guy who does the Chick tracts or whoever puts together those religious, Halloween, scare them straight with abortion footage haunted houses is thinking "reach out" too.

I don't mean to say speaking your mind on religion is bad, I'm saying if you feel cheap doing it then it cheapens your beliefs.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

You could always do Art-Porn, or something.

You know, Plot-plot-plot-fucking-plot-plot-symbolism-plot-fucking-plot-plot-symbolism related fucking-plot-plot-fucking, as the pattern goes. That why it's not just fucking bookended by enough plot to fulfill a fantasy.

If you do do the church thing, maybe try and convince them to make a nice video? You know, "join the church, and be at peace" as compared to "join the church, or burn in hell you heathen bastard".

 

[Popido]

If its artsy film, yes. If "informative" document, then no.

I find it interesting how people with good cause can yet be so evil that they're completely blind to it. Well..ignorance can do that to a person...and fear and denial.

 

[Dyp100]

Don't do ittttt.

You're voiding your beliefs of giving everyone their own opinions.

I don't think it'd ever say this, but...In this case, morals are more important than money.

Though, take what I say with a pinch of salt, I am an atheist after all.

 

[Woodsey]

Not porn, because at least porn has a point:

"aggressively reache out to people who are far from God"

People who do that are just fucking annoying.

 

[nuba km]

I care about principles so I think you shouldn't make it.

 

[sheah1]

Yes if only because evangelists who want to "aggressively reach out" (read: tell everyone who isn't them they're wrong) make my blood boil. Although I am making assumptions and I don't know the full situation, they may simply want to spread their beliefs in a new, non-offensive way, but come on, "aggressively reach out".

 

[Hawgh]

Well, propaganda and porn strikes me as rather different things. So no.

 

[mjc0961]

Well it's the same in the sense of being a violation of your principles. So I'd say yeah it's equivalent.

Yeah in that since, for you it would be the same as filming porn.

In general, it is quite different of course. Personally I'd join many other people in this thread in saying that the propaganda for that church is much worse than the porn, but like most of them I too don't believe in any religion and really hate when any person of any religion tries to force feed their beliefs to anyone.

 

[Ravek]

Regardless of how it relates to porn, it's just a job. While I dislike people who attempt to convert me, I don't think any less of the printer studio who prints their flyers.

If the job will make you feel bad, it's probably best not to take the job. But I don't see a reason why you should feel bad about doing it.

 

[AlohaJo]

It isn't the same as making porn, because if you made a pornographic movie you would probably be paid more.

Just make sure you do something that hasn't been done before, something that could involve very short people and skydiving onto a jam tart.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

I would say check out a little more on the video this church is looking to make. If it isn't really that bad, then go ahead and make it. I don't see anything wrong with a religious group trying to spread information about their beliefs in a non-aggressive way. If it does seem like its going to be a propaganda film and you aren't comfortable with it, then I say don't do it. If its against your morals like filming porn is, then stick to it.

I mean you could always take up the job because you need the money, but people would probably call you a sell out or something. But we all got to make a living somehow.

Go with what you think is the best. If the film isn't too bad, make it. If you don't feel like filming it, then don't. If you really need the money, get it.

 

[Scobie]

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[Toriver]

*headdesk*

I can't believe I am saying this...

But when we seem to be arguing that making an evangelizing film for your church is worse than making porn, I am losing faith in humanity. I really am.

Though I do have to say this: if you are actually having issues deciding between this and porn, which is AGAINST the Church's teachings, maybe you should consider switching your church. If it bothers you so much to make a video supporting a church that you claim to support so much, perhaps you don't support them as much as you think you do, especially if you're comparing their work to porn.

My advice? If you haven't already, start by requesting a copy of a manuscript of what they want you to film. Read it over and decide from there if you are comfortable filming it. If you are, do it. If not, turn them down. It's that simple. Just make that part of your policy when deciding what filming you're going to do. You're the artist, you have the control over what work you will and will not do.

 

[Cowabungaa]

But when we seem to be arguing that making an evangelizing film for your church is worse than making porn, I am losing faith in humanity. I really am.

People confuse society with humanity oh so often.

Still, I have to agree with people here. I detest evanglication, it's condescending. Porn is just entertainment, I'd say that's not worse than propaganda.

 

[The Maddest March Hare]

Consenting sex or forced religion..I'd say they're not the same, but the porn is less demeaning and far less immoral.

The porn is something you have little against but don't wish to spend time on.

The religion, however, is something you have strong feelings against. You said you greatly dislike forcing religion on people, where you simply would prefer not to film the porn but otherwise have little against it.

I'd say the choice is clear, but that is just one man's opinion.

 

[Wolfenbarg]

Tell them you want to see a script before you make any commitments. Go through it, and if it is something you are absolutely opposed to, decline to take on the project and be professional about it.

Overall, I think you're making a good move by avoid aggressive religious action and pornography to pay the bills just because it leaves a very dirty stain on your portfolio. If you someday were ever contracted to make a mega blockbuster because your talents became renowned from a breakout hit, the girl from that porno you made could fess up about it and screw you over. People have similar adverse reactions to anything that implies fundamentalism. Though just to be clear, if their idea doesn't reek of the things you think it does, then don't turn them down. Churches can be good friends to have.

 

[BlindTom]

The only thing going through my mind is nun porn.

 

[Toriver]

But when we seem to be arguing that making an evangelizing film for your church is worse than making porn, I am losing faith in humanity. I really am.

People confuse society with humanity oh so often.

Still, I have to agree with people here. I detest evanglication, it's condescending. Porn is just entertainment, I'd say that's not worse than propaganda.

Well, I used the humanity thing for the precise reason that I see it too damn often.

To correct myself:
I am losing faith in Western society and culture. I really am.

But what I am wondering is, how is the making of this video forcing anyone to do anything? A video can't force anyone to watch it or to follow the instructions on it. All it can do is present the information contained therein. There is no coercion involved. If anyone is forced to view it and/or act on it, the blame goes to the person or group committing the coercion, not the filmmaker or the film itself.

And if anyone is forcing people to convert based on the video, they're doing it wrong.

Really, I have the feeling it's just an informational video that the OP and others are blowing out of proportion. Cooler heads should prevail on this, but somehow I doubt they will, because cooler heads rarely speak up in these instances, when they really should.

EDIT:

Yes, how dare people have opinions they can back up with reasoning.
What has science done?

My own reasoning is provided above.