Poll: Is stealing the other team's vehicles in competitive multiplayer cheap/unfair?
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Tell me about it. You know the one map on the large island with the large mountain on it? I would almost always get put on blue team and red team would almost always camp the crap out of the mountain so that we couldn't leave our stupid base. It was mostly because of that one map that I stopped playing BTB altogether.Nouw said:
Ugh, that fucking mountain. Another case is Boneyard where no-mans land quickly turns into a graveyard consisting of an entire team. Those fucking Banshees...Fijiman said:
You know you're fucked when there's a massive party of high-ranking players who just love to grief.
If it was stolen from our base in bf3:rush the enemy shouldn't be in our spawn area.DJ_DEnM said:
In my opinion, a large number of the people who are inheritors/reclaimers/forerunners are nothing more than a bunch of douchebags with no lives. I always hated it when the enemy team consisted of high ranking assholes whereas my team mostly consisted of idiots, half of whom probably only got the game a week before then.Nouw said:
I don't consider it cheating just really unfair (if it's in their base, if it's out in the open it's free game).
If one whole team has tanks and just drives around in them it makes the game not fun. If all your doing is shooting guys when they spawn or dying upon spawning, the game gets boring very quickly. I personally don't like vehicles in multiplayer for that reason.
If one whole team has tanks and just drives around in them it makes the game not fun. If all your doing is shooting guys when they spawn or dying upon spawning, the game gets boring very quickly. I personally don't like vehicles in multiplayer for that reason.
No. On the grounds of "I don't see the enemy team's name on that wraith tank"
I always took it a step further in Reach's Speed CTF by nabbing the enemy tank in and blowing up their other vehicles.
I always took it a step further in Reach's Speed CTF by nabbing the enemy tank in and blowing up their other vehicles.
It is NEVER cheating when the actions are done within the restraints of the game itself, aka no hacks. That's why abusing glitches and bugs are considered fair until the developers themselves fix it. That's why the Noobtube, one of the most infamous ones, are still fair considering the game, which has about 2 sequels now, has never considered removing it.
EDIT: As for the difference between unfair and cheating. One is going against and beyond the game's laws and borders while the other is subjective and up for useless debate.
EDIT: As for the difference between unfair and cheating. One is going against and beyond the game's laws and borders while the other is subjective and up for useless debate.
It's cheap from the game mechanics standpoint, in games where you insta jump in an out of vehicles you can just troll people massively because they can't defend from it.
But if you rebalanced this with an appropriately long animation or a sequence where you hack/bust open the vehicles which would give the opposition time to respond then it is perfectly fine.
But if you rebalanced this with an appropriately long animation or a sequence where you hack/bust open the vehicles which would give the opposition time to respond then it is perfectly fine.
Why is it cheating?
You are displaying initiative, and turning the enemy's advantage against them.
I think that shows skill, rather than cheapness.
You are displaying initiative, and turning the enemy's advantage against them.
I think that shows skill, rather than cheapness.
It's a... valid tactic, though I wouldn't say it isn't cheap or unfair. Some tactics just aren't nice.
I think it is always good that servers allow people to change up the rules, though. Personally, I would tend to play on servers that have that restriction.
I think it is always good that servers allow people to change up the rules, though. Personally, I would tend to play on servers that have that restriction.
Oh man. My brain is reeling.clippen05 said:
I've not touched BF3, but you're giving me flashbacks of BF 1942 and BF2.
You're asking two questions, so I'll give you two answers.
In the first case, if the vehicle has been crashed/spent/abandoned, then the more foolish they are for not finishing it off. They left it, its yours. Bon appetit.
In the second case. No, that's not cheap or cheating. It is however, solid evidence that EA - or whoever it is that they have chained to their desks designing the crappy maps now - still have no sense of what balanced gameplay is. It only takes one grunt breaking through to the opposing force's base, who then steals armor and shreds half the OpFor with munitions that are labeled "Made in OpFor-tania". Typically each base area is so enormous that it would take half of the opposing force just to prevent incursions. Generally it is also a symptom that the Opfor team commander is not ready for prime time, and its squads are disorganized or non-existant. Its frustrating, maddening, and it is pure joy when you are the one dishing it out. It's called "harassing the enemy", its perfectly fine, and its probably why I don't play those games anymore.
What???clippen05 said:
Didn't you just ask me that? Where's Te'alc?
(Sorry, you made me think of that.)
Recently I've been playing Battlefield 3 a lot and not only have I come across this but, I've done it myself.
It's certainly a cheap tactic but the enemy team has every oppertunity to either take the vehicle, be it helicopter or jet, or shoot it down with those powerful Anti-Aircraft guns (which can be found at each deployment area for either team).
When I steal vehicles I only steal helicopters (I'm the worst jet pilot in histroy :/ I'm so bad I can't even intentionally fly into other vehicles)
It's certainly a cheap tactic but the enemy team has every oppertunity to either take the vehicle, be it helicopter or jet, or shoot it down with those powerful Anti-Aircraft guns (which can be found at each deployment area for either team).
When I steal vehicles I only steal helicopters (I'm the worst jet pilot in histroy :/ I'm so bad I can't even intentionally fly into other vehicles)