Poll: Is there any hope Dragon Age?

[Kyogissun]

Oh look, 'another' thread on the escapist where some user is claiming a series needs to be fixed.

Dragon age 2 is a middle ground of a game and if you 'really' were so engrossed with this rich and deep world, you'd be able to realize that ONE game alone is not going to ruin the franchise as a whole. There still much potential in the world of thedas and to NOT have a game be a stepping stone for elements in the overall plot would be shooting themselves in the foot. If you're as dedicated of a fan as you are, you need to sit back and absorb in everything the games have offered lore wise... There's a lot to take in and a whole hell of a lot of stuff to theorize about too.

Both in finding the right gameplay elements and the overall story, DAII is a necessity in what looks like a five to six game franchise. And yes, I'm dead serious in my belief that there is enough background and lore to fuel the game for six CORE games for the series. Dropping the series this early on is a foolish mistake to make, as the potential from this series has yet to be fully tapped.

 

[Pingieking]

Is there anything Bioware could do better to save Dragon Age as a franchise, or did they pretty well kill it with Dragon Age 2?

Okay. I finished playing DA2 a couple of days ago. Here's my take:

Dragon Age 2 = Iron Man 2.

Both are very good entries that have to be compared to their better predecessor.

There is nothing wrong with Dragon Age 2. It's a great game.

It's just not DA:O.

Basically, DA2 is a massive trailer for DA3. It introduces another important character, and sets up the plot for DA3 where the character from DA:O needs to come back and fix things.

Just like how Iron Man 2 was just a massive trailer for the Avengers movie.

So yeah. Nothing wrong with DA2 other than it had to follow DA:O.

This.
I liked both games, since they were both narrative heavy. But it just didn't feel like the same franchise. I got over it after a few hours, and enjoyed it from there on.

 

[CrustyOatmeal]

i actually enjoyed DA2 but i do agree DA:O was much better. i think DA3 needs to have a blending of the two to be successful. DA:O had the amazing story and atmosphere but DA2 had better, more engaging combat (although i wish it were a little more strategic) but for the simple fact that the game shipped only 3/5 complete made me pissed off. i refuse to buy any DLC for DA2 because of that simple fact. DLC should finish the story for you but rather continue it

 

[zHellas]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

 

[dancinginfernal]

But...I adored Dragon Age 2's characters.

It's been a while since I've felt a bond with characters so strongly. Even L.A. Noire didn't get me to feel the same. Red Dead was the last.

 

[FallenRainbows]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

I am not a spy.

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GUYS THAT GUY IS A SPY! Quick get him!

 

[babinro]

Dragon Age 2 is a great game...heck Dragon Age Facebook game is highly addictive too and I never thought I'd play one of those games. As with most people here I loved the DA:O the most as well.

The fans have been loud and clear about what they didn't like about DA2...and so I fully expect the DA3 to be an improvement. I would be extremely surprised if it went back to DA:O style complexity though...that kind of game no longer needs to exist.

I would expect more of what DA2 delivered but with tweaks such as customizable companions and an end to recycled backgrounds.

 

[faspxina]

There's no hope for any game in the world, we're all doomed to play this commercialized junk that big companies like EA give to us.

Although, I had more fun with DA2 than I had with DA:O.

 

[zHellas]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

I am not a spy.

...

...

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GUYS THAT GUY IS A SPY! Quick get him!

No, I'm not a Spy! I'm a Soldier! See? *points to shotgun*

 

[WonderWillard]

Dragon Age 2 was an 8/10 game, fine by its own rights. Vastly different, which is what a sequel SHOULD be, and upset old school RPG fans who loved DA:O. It did NOT deserve the amount of hate it got.

 

[Layzor]

Personally I found the first one to be terrible so unless they take it right back to the drawing board I'd have to say nay.

 

[FallenRainbows]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

I am not a spy.

...

...

...

GUYS THAT GUY IS A SPY! Quick get him!

No, I'm not a Spy! I'm a Soldier! See? *points to shotgun*

A disguise, clearly. You, mumbling man, set him on fire to check.

 

[DustyDrB]

A game sells over 2 million copies and is generally well-received, and you think the franchise is in danger?

 

[zHellas]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

I am not a spy.

...

...

...

GUYS THAT GUY IS A SPY! Quick get him!

No, I'm not a Spy! I'm a Soldier! See? *points to shotgun*

A disguise, clearly. You, mumbling man, set him on fire to check.

*Pyro sets me on fire* *I'm not hurt* Ha! See, the Spy's hat's on fire!

 

[FallenRainbows]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

I am not a spy.

...

...

...

GUYS THAT GUY IS A SPY! Quick get him!

No, I'm not a Spy! I'm a Soldier! See? *points to shotgun*

A disguise, clearly. You, mumbling man, set him on fire to check.

*Pyro sets me on fire* *I'm not hurt* Ha! See, the Spy's hat's on fire!

Shouldn't you be like... burning...?

Hey look behind you!

 

[TheLoneBeet]

I think they'll learn from their mistakes and make another Dragon Age game that doesn't suck quite so bad but at this point I'm not expecting any future titles to live up to DA:O

 

[zHellas]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

I am not a spy.

...

...

...

GUYS THAT GUY IS A SPY! Quick get him!

No, I'm not a Spy! I'm a Soldier! See? *points to shotgun*

A disguise, clearly. You, mumbling man, set him on fire to check.

*Pyro sets me on fire* *I'm not hurt* Ha! See, the Spy's hat's on fire!

Shouldn't you be like... burning...?

Hey look behind you!

*turns and gets stabbed* Nooo!!!! *manages to shoot the Spy before dying*

(Gah, we derailed this, didn't we?)

 

[FallenRainbows]

They will release another one, everyone will buy it, more people will moan. rinse, repeat.

Yeah DA:2 had some issues (copy paste much) but all round II found it a solid game, and I preferred the new combat, it was much prettier and more engaging.

Although I agree in all DA > DA2.

The series does not need saving, it is dramatic to think so. Sonic has done perfectly well despite being dead for years.

Damn... Are you me? 'Cause you just said everything I was thinking of.

I am not a spy.

...

...

...

GUYS THAT GUY IS A SPY! Quick get him!

No, I'm not a Spy! I'm a Soldier! See? *points to shotgun*

A disguise, clearly. You, mumbling man, set him on fire to check.

*Pyro sets me on fire* *I'm not hurt* Ha! See, the Spy's hat's on fire!

Shouldn't you be like... burning...?

Hey look behind you!

*turns and gets stabbed* Nooo!!!! *manages to shoot the Spy before dying*

(Gah, we derailed this, didn't we?)

You bet your ass we did, like a boss.

/end

 

[TwistedEllipses]

Bioware aren't afraid of trying out different things for sequels. I'd rather they have the occasional dud like replacing Mako missions with probing, than produce an exact clone of the first game. It was a solid game, it just lacked the magic of being entirely new...the Iron man 2 comparison is a good one...

 

[Hyper-space]

I think the problems with DA:2 are going to continue to be problems, because they have to do with the writers and the business model.

Spoiler: When you have people like this on your writing team, you're pretty much screwed.

The way I see it, Dragon Age was a good game but will likely be a bad franchise. But that's alright - there are a lot of very good WRPGs coming out this year and likely in the future as well. Of course, we're likely going to see more Dragon Age, since DA2 did very well financially - better than DA1. It's just probably all going to suck.

Tell me, did any of the characters in DA:O develop beyond your interactions with them? did they lead any lives behind the scenes? weren't they just props for the main character to interact with?

Now think about DA2, some of the side-characters can get fucking remarried and it doesn't matter if you choose to be a part of their lives (although you have the choice). They were well-rounded characters, they were actually individuals instead of trite character archetypes. If this is where the writing is headed, that is no longer the same "you are the chosen one, defeat big evil baddie" and ACTUAl FUCKING CHARACTERS, then i say full speed ahead.

DA:O was a big call-back to one of the most nostalgia-ladden WRPGs of old, but it took both the good AND the bad parts of old-school RPGs. DA2 however represented a more modern approach (that is, an UI that wasn't completely obtuse as shit and a fresh story), something that angered fans who were expecting the same game they bought 11 years ago.