Poll: Mass Effect 3 - Ashley got Hot! (Also, see Kaiden)

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Wheatley said:
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Wheatley said:
I think Ashley ties Jack for the two most hated LIs.
Miranda is only supported by tose who like boobs and decadence.
Tali's got her own fairly large, weirdly commited fanbase.
Liara kinda fell off the radar for most people after Tali became available.
Everyone wishes Kasumi was an LI but she isnt =P
My vote for Tali as much better than both old racist-***** Ashley and new probably racist-slut Ashley.
Tali supports slavery and genocide of sentient beings.
Ashley supports being careful with other races who probably have their own interests at heart.
How is Ashley the racist ***** in this scenario?
I never said I agreed with the genocide of the geth (I tried to convince Tali and the admirals to open negotiations) but she at least has some weird, twisted justification for it. Ashley just grumbles and bitches about how shes surrounded by inferior aliens, and is incredibly hostile to Liara for one. The n she shows up for about 5 minutes in ME 2 to ***** at you, where many people just wanted to finish the mission and go home to a good LI.
to be fair she was probily just jealous of liara.....seeing as the second you two are alone she hits on you i dont blame her.
 

icame

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Is she still a xenophobic dick? If the answer is yes then nothing else matters and I will continue to get her killed on every playthrough.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Paksenarrion said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Paksenarrion said:
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Oh for fuck sake, not more Dragon Age style massive balloon-tits.

Jesus.
I will be mad if they gave Jack implants between games. Big boobs=/=more attractive.
No, no, I disagree. I am hoping they give Grunt and Garrus DA2 breast implants.

Also, the Reapers. I want to see my sentient starships sporting massive...shield generators.
Dominatrix Reapers? Hmmmm. Throw in some Hanar and you have the start of a...promising game.
Enticing tone: I'd like to have your Reaper in my Citadel.
Suggestive tone: Only if you pass through my Mass Relay.
 

Theron Julius

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There are only four companions I ever really cared about:


1. Tali (Love interest, hot nerd with a shotgun, etc.)
2. Wrex (No explanation required)
3. Legion (He's a robot! What more do I need to say?)
4. Garrus (General BAMF and a good sniper)

OT: I hated Ashley. She was a xenophobic *****. The only reason I picked her over Kaidan was because Kaidan was a Carth clone. Then how does she repay me for letting her live when I return to her after being revived? She bitches at me! Now she looks like a prostitute, which does not boost my opinion of her. I just wish I had the option to kill both of them on Virmire.

Now pardon me while I wait for them to announce miss Vas Normandy's role in the game.
 

Ranubis

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Dang. I don't hate Ash, but I did save Kaiden. Now, I wish my VS was her just to see Ash and Miranda meet. As Joker said, "Take pictures!".
 

Paksenarrion

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Paksenarrion said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Paksenarrion said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Oh for fuck sake, not more Dragon Age style massive balloon-tits.

Jesus.
I will be mad if they gave Jack implants between games. Big boobs=/=more attractive.
No, no, I disagree. I am hoping they give Grunt and Garrus DA2 breast implants.

Also, the Reapers. I want to see my sentient starships sporting massive...shield generators.
Dominatrix Reapers? Hmmmm. Throw in some Hanar and you have the start of a...promising game.
Enticing tone: I'd like to have your Reaper in my Citadel.
Suggestive tone: Only if you pass through my Mass Relay.
Blatant Come-On: Assuming Direct Control.
 

Gigatoast

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WHERE THE HELL IS TALI?! She was the only female character in these games I actually LIKED! D:<

I say we start a pointless petition!
 
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Wheatley said:
I never said I agreed with the genocide of the geth (I tried to convince Tali and the admirals to open negotiations) but she at least has some weird, twisted justification for it. Ashley just grumbles and bitches about how shes surrounded by inferior aliens, and is incredibly hostile to Liara for one. The n she shows up for about 5 minutes in ME 2 to ***** at you, where many people just wanted to finish the mission and go home to a good LI.
Her grandfather is the only human to surrender to aliens. As a result, she got shafted by the Alliance many times. Her holding a grudge against aliens is perfectly understandable, reasonable, and, well, human.

She's hostile to Liara because if your a male, she see's someone who could try and take you away from her. In other words, jealousy, which is another human trait. If your female, well its because she just got on the ship and appears to be taking control of everything. Knowing her history, its obvious she would react this way.

Her views also change throughout the game. After talking with you plenty of times, she re-thinks her stance on aliens, and changes. She's more accepting of them after you talked with her. She changes because of the situations that she's been in.

And she bitches you out in ME2 because your working with a terrorist organization known for ruthlessly killing aliens(and preforming horrid tests on humans). How would you feel if someone close to you, who talked you into accepting another culture, and then came back 2 years later doing secret missions for some racist terrorist organization? An organization you actually fought against in the first game(the Cerberus quest chain in ME1 is the largest quest chain outside of the main quest). You'd be pissed off to, and demand an explanation. Of course you can't defend yourself because Bioware doesn't let you. But thats not an issue with her, thats an issue with the dialog system not letting you tell the truth.

Essentially, she's a fully developed character complete with a personality, beliefs, morals, thoughts, likes, dislikes, emotions, and all that good stuff that makes us human.

And for some reason everyone hates that, and prefers Tali for some reason. A girl who's infatuation with you is more annoying than cute.
 

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Meh. Sure she is more attractive now(?) But I would have been happy if the just let her hair down and didn't give her the very fancy plastic surgery. Still hate her character though. Fucking *****
 

drisky

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Let me compare this side by side.
There are like no similar features between there faces, I wouldn't even believe they were sisters, never mind the same person. Eye brows, eyes, nose, lips, cheek bones, they've all been changed and I wouldn't recognize her with out them telling me who she is. Also I want be bulky armor that shows off none of her figure, that goes double Shepard. I'm not a fan of visual retcons to this degree.
 

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Paksenarrion said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Paksenarrion said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Paksenarrion said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Oh for fuck sake, not more Dragon Age style massive balloon-tits.

Jesus.
I will be mad if they gave Jack implants between games. Big boobs=/=more attractive.
No, no, I disagree. I am hoping they give Grunt and Garrus DA2 breast implants.

Also, the Reapers. I want to see my sentient starships sporting massive...shield generators.
Dominatrix Reapers? Hmmmm. Throw in some Hanar and you have the start of a...promising game.
Enticing tone: I'd like to have your Reaper in my Citadel.
Suggestive tone: Only if you pass through my Mass Relay.
Blatant Come-On: Assuming Direct Control.
Apprehensive yet excited: Letting someone else lead is heavy risk, but the priiiize.
 

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I actually thought Ashley was hot in a tomboyish way in the first game. I don't really like how they feel they have to make her look "girly", it kind of breaks her character a bit. Her xenophobia was a turn off, but she at least had an understandable reason to be the way she was.

I killed her in my paragon character's game while romancing her because I wanted to see if it was acknowledged that he left his lover to die on Virmire in the second game(I was disappointed that it was never brought up, even when romancing Tali).

I wanted to role-play my soldier Shepard as a tragic figure who grew up on Earth with no family running with gangs, sitting by on Akuze and watching his friends die and losing someone he loved on one of the toughest missions of his life.


And I rambled a bit there.
 

Xanar

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Don't care don't care and don't care. Give me Tali and Grunt (or Garrus) and all the other characters can sod off.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Oh for fuck sake, not more Dragon Age style massive balloon-tits.

Jesus.
I will be mad if they gave Jack implants between games. Big boobs=/=more attractive.
All Jack needs is her loyalty outfit to be the best looking companion. I dunno, shaved heads are pretty at times.
 

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Souplex said:
Wheatley said:
I think Ashley ties Jack for the two most hated LIs.
Miranda is only supported by tose who like boobs and decadence.
Tali's got her own fairly large, weirdly commited fanbase.
Liara kinda fell off the radar for most people after Tali became available.
Everyone wishes Kasumi was an LI but she isnt =P
My vote for Tali as much better than both old racist-***** Ashley and new probably racist-slut Ashley.
Tali supports slavery and genocide of sentient beings.
Ashley supports being careful with other races who probably have their own interests at heart.
How is Ashley the racist ***** in this scenario?
Because of how Bioware presented the two characters.
Whenever Ashley mentions the issue, Shepard usually gets a response along the lines of "Your a Racist! You big Racist you!"

When Tali is talking about reclaiming her home world or the Geth, you usually cant call her out on it. I guess most of the player base never noticed because of that.

I think certain members of the team let their own political opinion spilled over into the game. It's pretty subtle, probably unintentional.
If it was done on purpose, then it was very sneaky. Even if the allegory wasn't.