Poll: No-kids-allowed movement. Yay or nay?

[DEAD34345]

Personally, I'm for a different sort of legislation. If someone brings a loud kid in, boot 'em. So long as the kid behaves, they're welcome in my book... but too many people don't raise their kids anymore, they just give their kids whatever they want in early development, teaching the kid that tantrums get them their desired results.
I say boot failed parents and their squalling brats to the curb, let 'em take their noise pollution on home... but banning all kids isn't the answer.

This is exactly how I feel about it. Banning all kids because some annoying child bothered you is ridiculous, banning kids that are obnoxious and annoy people is perfectly reasonable. If a kid starts banging on his table or doing anything else that would get an adult kicked out, then they should be kicked out (along with whoever brought them). No need to punish every perfectly well-behaved kid out there, that makes about as much sense as banning adults from your restaurant because some left without paying the bill, or banning females from the cinema because some left their phone on.

 

[kidd25]

NO, kids are restricted enough and if they act mean, tell the parents! should we ban the parents as well of course not.

 

[Rad Party God]

YES please!

I hate those little buggers when they're misbehaving, especially if the parents won't do anything about it.

 

[SD-Fiend]

God yes. Especially on airplanes.

I don't give a jolly shit if you paid full price to go to Malibu for the weekend, take a fucking train or boat there and stop making me more jet-lagged and bad-tempered than I normally am when I airtravel.

excuse me but why don't you try to take a train or something if they're such a problem on planes?

 

[JezebelinHell]

Personally I think they should ban teenagers from going out of the house. They are loud and obnoxious and let's face it, they are old enough to know better, unlike a baby or a toddler that has a clean slate to learn the rules of society by interacting with said society. A teenager has already had that chance and blew it. Let's move on to kids that may get a clue.

Seriously... Establishments should deal with problem customers on a case by case basis. They are failing because money is more important and once you are seated they generally have your money no matter what happens. If you were to mention to your service staff that the obnoxious teenagers (in my case) are ruining your enjoyment and that you will leave and take your money with you maybe you would get someone to intervene on your behalf. I think any of you that believe children should not be allowed in nice restaurants do not realize that children learn from society and if restaurant staff are involved the parents can also have a learning experience just like the teenagers I get booted out of one of my favorite places to dine.

TLR? Make the restaurant staff do their job of making your dining experience enjoyable or tell them you will take your money elsewhere. The only way you can possibly educate the problem parents.

Edit:

I used to think children were the most annoying thing I could encounter in public. But you know what I hate more? Other people. Especially teenagers. Children are adorable, and they don't know any better.

Hahaha! I got disgusted with the replies before I got off of page one.

 

[drisky]

Any business should be allowed to deny any age until 18, concerts already do this. I don't however think it should go out of control. You mentioned the olive garden, and they have nothing to gain by making them selves less family friendly, other places will benefit from having a guarantied quiet meal. Everyone gets options, everyone can do whats best for their business. But like I said there is a limit and not all children are hell spawns.

 

[SD-Fiend]

Kids are kids, have always been kids, and will always be kids. You were a kid once (hopefully), which means you were the one crying in annoying areas. You will likely have kids in the future, which means they will likely end up crying in annoying areas. That's how children work.

for some reason this reminded me of kids next door.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

Wow, this is just plain silly. So kids don't have constitutional rights now....

 

[aussiebee]

Personally, I'm for a different sort of legislation. If someone brings a loud kid in, boot 'em. So long as the kid behaves, they're welcome in my book... but too many people don't raise their kids anymore, they just give their kids whatever they want in early development, teaching the kid that tantrums get them their desired results.
I say boot failed parents and their squalling brats to the curb, let 'em take their noise pollution on home... but banning all kids isn't the answer.

My sentiments precisely.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Wow, this is just plain silly. So kids don't have constitutional rights now....

Uhm, no constitutional rights are being violated. At all.

 

[SeriousIssues]

Hey, dude!

I love going out to dinner with my family, and we have a nice, semi-quiet meal every weekend. You're really overrreacting waaaay too much. Business owners should really regulate these things though, but come on? Banning kids?

 

[SeriousIssues]

Wow, this is just plain silly. So kids don't have constitutional rights now....

Uhm, no constitutional rights are being violated. At all.

I don't know, 14th? 9th probably.

 

[KoalaKid]

Its funny that i agree with this but have the name kid.

 

[bpm195]

If I'm paying for a nice experience I don't want it wrecked because some parents don't bother controlling their kids. I strongly support more businesses outright banning children. I don't like having to dodge kids running around a coffee shop and I'll be damned if I'll watch my language because some parent decided to bring their kid to a pub. This isn't to say it should be ubiquitous, as family restaurants and the sort shouldn't adopt such a policy, but the places where 95% of their customers are adults need to do this sort of thing.

However, making a rule banning "annoying" children is far too arbitrary, and unreasonable to enforce. If I'm in a restaurant and some kid is everybody pissing off everybody(including myself), then I'll probably be siding with the parents and calling the rule ludicrous and will gladly walk off with the parents leave an upside glass of soda as a tip.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Wow, this is just plain silly. So kids don't have constitutional rights now....

Uhm, no constitutional rights are being violated. At all.

I don't know, 14th? 9th probably.

Nope, those do not apply here. Restaurants and airlines are private entities, and may refuse service to anybody under reasonable circumstances. Additionally, they are not required to service anybody under the age of 18 iirc

 

[Skorpyo]

When I choose to drink outside of the home (and occasionally eat, as well), I desire GREATLY the chance to ignore the hell-spawn of others.

I say Yay.

 

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

As much as I hate kids ( I really, really hate kids), I can't agree with this. A business is fully within its right to say no kids allowed, but I'll leave that up to the business, not me.

 

[skyfire_freckles]

No, no, no!

What the hell ever happened to PARENTING? You know...when people expected parents to be able to control their children in public places?

My ten-year-old can handle PG-13 movies. If she doesn't understand something, she asks me after the movie's over. If she gets scared, she asks me quietly if we can leave, and we do. I've taken my children to fancy restaurants, weddings, the like. If they cry, I take them out to the car so as not to be rude to other patrons. If a parent refuses to parent a child in a restaurant, the staff should ask the family to leave. The same thing goes for movie theaters. For airplanes, I do like the idea of a separate first class for children, simply because once a plane is in the air, there is no way to ask the parent of a rowdy child to leave. It wouldn't be that hard to implement, either, a simple dividing wall, and sell the tickets as children or non, like restaurants used to with smoking.

But that's not my biggest problem with this. More and more places are not allowing children, but where are kids expected to go? Do they stay home all the time, indoors? How do they learn how to behave in public places if they're never allowed in them? Those children will be taking care of us when we're old. They'll be our doctors, nurses, they'll be making the stuff we buy and use. If we make no room in our society for children, we raise a generation of children that do not feel welcome in their own lives, who graduate high school not really knowing how to be the adults we expect them to be.

 

[A Satanic Panda]

Let's think for a moment how those kids that were told that they weren't allowed to go shopping with their parents or see a movie with them will grow up to be. Remember any kid you used to know that had super restrictive parents that was either a total ass hole or a complete shut in? Lets not make a whole generation of those people.

If anything blame the parents for not controlling them, it takes a license to drive but anyone can be a parent.

 

[Matt Dellar]

Personally I think they should ban teenagers from going out of the house. They are loud and obnoxious and let's face it, they are old enough to know better, unlike a baby or a toddler that has a clean slate to learn the rules of society by interacting with said society. A teenager has already had that chance and blew it. Let's move on to kids that may get a clue.

Seriously... Establishments should deal with problem customers on a case by case basis. They are failing because money is more important and once you are seated they generally have your money no matter what happens. If you were to mention to your service staff that the obnoxious teenagers (in my case) are ruining your enjoyment and that you will leave and take your money with you maybe you would get someone to intervene on your behalf. I think any of you that believe children should not be allowed in nice restaurants do not realize that children learn from society and if restaurant staff are involved the parents can also have a learning experience just like the teenagers I get booted out of one of my favorite places to dine.

TLR? Make the restaurant staff do their job of making your dining experience enjoyable or tell them you will take your money elsewhere. The only way you can possibly educate the problem parents.

Edit:

I used to think children were the most annoying thing I could encounter in public. But you know what I hate more? Other people. Especially teenagers. Children are adorable, and they don't know any better.

Hahaha! I got disgusted with the replies before I got off of page one.

There are TONS of well-mannered teens who would probably turn into the kind you despise if you were to prevent them from leaving the house. I think any sort of judgment passed on ANY group of people should be based on the individual, not the stereotype or the worst-behaved.

I'm seventeen myself, and have acted fairly close to the same ever since I was twelve. I've never thrown a fit, cried, screamed, talked loudly, or even made my presence known in a public place when I didn't have to. My sister, on the other hand, legally an adult, has thrown fits, cried, screamed, and talked loudly in various places. All while legally an adult.

I'll say it again just to be sure: PASS JUDGMENT BASED ON THE INDIVIDUAL, NOT THE STEREOTYPE OR THE WORST-BEHAVED.