Poll: Pokemon's Starting Elements

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Epigone

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In the first generation of pokemon the starters had the elements: grass, water, and fire. Since then, they have continued this motif. Is that a good thing? Wouldn't it be cool to have an ice, dragon, ghost, or ground starter? I understand that fire, grass, and water make a good combat triangle. Each is weak to one of the others... but they could make that out of other types as well.
 

Shockolate

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If you can find another balanced triangle like Fire, water, and grass, I'd have no problem.
 

Acidwell

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Yeah it would be nice to mix it up on the second playthrough or something but there would be too many problems with changing it.
Firstly most of the beginning hms wouldn't work with all types so you would end up stuck.

Also most of the time the evolution of the starters adds another type to the grass/fire/water already there.
 

Icecoldcynic

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I'm pretty sure people have had this discussion before and come to the conclusion there is no other triangle like it. The closest is some combination of Dark/Ghost/Fighting/Psychic that I forget, but it's not the same.

EDIT: For example, a trio of types that almost (but doesn't quite) work is Ice > Ground > Steel > Ice, except steel doesn't do half damage to ground, and ground doesn't do half to ice either.
 

ultrachicken

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I managed to hack one of my old pokemon games so that I could choose pikachu as my starter pokemon
Maybe you should just do that
 

Marter

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I'm fine with the starting combination of elements. I wish on a second playthrough that you could pick any Pokemon's first evolution to start with.

Guess who mine would be...
 

dbmountain

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other combat triangle type things:

ROCK->ICE->GRASS
FIGHTING->ICE/ROCK->FLYING
DARK->PSYCHIC->FIGHTING
ELECTRIC->WATER->GROUND

probably more, i like fire->grass->water the best still though
 

Icecoldcynic

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dbmountain said:
other combat triangle type things:

ROCK->ICE->GRASS
FIGHTING->ICE/ROCK->FLYING
DARK->PSYCHIC->FIGHTING
ELECTRIC->WATER->GROUND

probably more, i like fire->grass->water the best still though
None of those work due to either NVE's not matching up, or in the case of Dark > Psy > Fighting, flat out immunitys being involved.
 

Radeonx

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No other trio is as balanced as those, so no, I wouldn't want to see others.
 

Internet Kraken

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Like others have said, using something aside from the FLW triangle screws with the balance. Why mess with that just of the sake of variety?
 

imaloony

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The idea is, as you said, a nice, basic triangle to have the starters be. But you could easily change that, like:

- Rock
- Ice
- Grass

Same concept. Rock > Ice; Ice > Grass; Grass > Rock. They were being a little unoriginal, but, you know, it isn't a huge gripe.
 

Radeonx

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marter said:
I'm fine with the starting combination of elements. I wish on a second playthrough that you could pick any Pokemon's first evolution to start with.

Guess who mine would be...
That makes sense, but some limitations would have to be made so someone doesn't speed run through the game, only to restart it and receive a psuedo/normal legendary to dominate with.
But it's still be a fantastic idea.
 

Kyman102

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How about this for a triad of starters...

Psychic --> Fighting --> Dark

It's another viable triangle.
 

Zeromaeus

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marter said:
I'm fine with the starting combination of elements. I wish on a second playthrough that you could pick any Pokemon's first evolution to start with.

Guess who mine would be...
Elekid?

EDIT: Double ninja'd... dang...
 

Pinstar

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D/P mixed it up when the fire type gained a fighting subtype. I think if you gave all three starters subtypes in their final evolutions, you'd keep the initial balance you were looking for while adding that diversity that people seem to be after.