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AgDr_ODST

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thiers a place and a time for everything including being politically correct much as it pains me to say it...but to say that we should be politically correct constantly....even eventually in speaking is some Damn stupid shit. If my friend makes and idiotic move Im not gonna go and say he was "acting exceptionally" as the insane author who's book OP had to read put it...fuck no
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
Want to kill off an offensive word? Overuse it. Anyone called a 'fag' may get insulted if they only hear such an insult once a month or so, but anyone on Xbox Live just has it slide off their back instantly.
LOL at this! So true and so damn funny!
 

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MrDeckard said:
I find it to be hilarious. If you don't believe me read George Carlin's book, "When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?".

In fact, even if you do believe me go and read it. It's awesome.

PCness [i/]does[/i] sometimes annoys me though.
he will be bringing them tomorrow :D but seriously that sounds like a good book. also do you actually learn this stuff in universitys and colleges?
 

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The thing is, when say describing an object or a person you tend to give their attributes "I have dark blonde hair and blue eyes" but if you want to be even more specific you may want to give their race and gender "I have dark blonde hair and blue eyes. I am also white and male".

I don't get it. Many-a-time I have described people to friends of multiple races and no offense was taken. How else am I supposed to describe someone? using 'politically correct' descriptions makes me sound racist.

I digress.

Also, that Maggio author doesn't seem to have all her eggs in the same basket.
 

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
Thank you for these clearly ignorant statements about obesity and alcoholism. I am not a person who approves of political correctness, but what you say here is vitriol for it's own sake, followed by a weak attempt to justify it with a completely uninformed argument.

It's easy to see that you have never had to deal with something like that and have no idea how much it can ruin your life. People like you assume that obesity and alcoholism can be turned off like a light switch and have no idea how incredibly difficult those things are to escape from and are clearly oblivious to the factors of life that can contribute to these sort of things. But rather than try to understand, it's far easier for you and people like you to assume that people who are obese or addicted to substances want to be in that situation. That we enjoy being mocked and ridiculed by someone like you. People like you who have decided it's acceptable to hate someone like that because of their appearance are no better than a skinhead or a klansman. And while I think a little good natured ribbing about certain things is fine, there's no good nature in your position. Only hatred, vitirol and egotistical self-importance.

And when something horrible like that befalls you, and people only react with hatred and humilation, I hope you think back to what I've just said.
Wow, so easy for you to assume that I've encountered neither, when in fact alcohol abuse nearly crippled my family. But the man turned it around, sought help and made something of himself.
Did I say that its easy to stop either? No! So why did you say that I did!?!
It's very easy to become an alcoholic or fat, however, and it's down to bad lifestyle choices. To say that being fat was something that befell a person is to easy. In most cases, the person is to blame. And I know that it's not easy to fix. Tough. Get out and do the work! If you don't care enough about your health to try and get better, then you don't deserve my respect or good nature.
Fatness is not appearance that people have no control over, it's a bad lifestyle choice, like smoking or drugs.
In the vast majority of cases, the fat person is to blame and should take responsibility.
 
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harv3034 said:
The Man With the Soap said:
It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.
LOL

You have no idea how tempted I am to quote you in this essay I'm writing.

Would that be okay with you?
That depends, what is your thesis?

Worgen said:
The Man With the Soap said:
It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.
yeah, they should be like the rightist and just try and enslave and kill, sigh, what is the world coming to
I'm not advocating being a rightist. I think both extremes are equally stupid.
 

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I'm not a big fan of what "political correctness" stands for these days.

Yes, you do need to take your audience into consideration. For example, I wouldn't swear if talking to my family, as I know they have issues with it, but the odd rude word can enhance a conversation between friends.

With large crowds, you need to use whichever word(s) come across best to the majority of the audience. Some of the substitutions that people make don't make any sense, which can be even worse than trying not to offend people. Equally well, as an audience we shouldn't be getting annoyed over something that was not intended to offend.
 

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Political correctness, all you need to know. This is what happens when you let hairy Australian metalheads have their say. They get it bang on the money, rather than some stupid uptight *****. Offense should come from intent. You can't be 'accidentally racist' or whatever.
 

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harv3034 said:
First, the context.
I am in the middle of writing a Persuasive essay on Freedom of Speech on College Campuses (worst topic ever by the way). As part of this assignment, I have to read various articles on the topic for homework so I can use some of them for source material and/or supporing/counterarguments.
Tonight's reading is called "Bias-Free Language: Some Guidelines" written by Rosalie Maggio. In this essay, Maggio says that political correctness is very important and that we need to activly work to instatute it into everyday language. At it's core this is a good thing, but the way she wants us to go about it sucks away all the credibility of the argument and throws the article into "parady mode."

Maggio says that when refering to a group of mixed gener or a person of unknown gender, we must not use words and phrases that imply masculinity (he, sir, waiter, ect...). Again, hard to dispute, but later she goes to suggest the general removal of the letter combinations m-a-n and m-e-n from many everyday words.
Under this policy, we would also have to change a great many other words on the grounds that they might offend 1 person out of 10,000. Fat would become "big-boned" or "differently sized", Stupid becomes "exceptional", and Stoned would be re-branded as "chemically inconvenienced".To prevent the chance of seeming racist, we would need to change "black eye" to "mouse", "black mail" to "payola", and "black sheep" to "outcast".
And these changes would need to be implemented, not just in writing, but in verbal communication as well.


To me, this is utterly rediculous. But I want your opinions as well.
So, what do you think?
You could probably score a lot of point with your teacher by writing a Persuasive Essay titled this 'Pursuasive essays neccesarily use biased language as a method of persuasion' subtitled 'How "Bias-Free Language: Some Guidelines" is ironically written from a biased perspective.'

All written word is Subjective to the person writing it, therefore it is biased in some way or another. People often pretext a biased or skewed argument by stating they are behaving 'Objectively' or 'My unbiased oppinion is...'

Its like this: Have you ever heard someone say 'With all due respect...' and NOT followed it immediately with a disrespectful comment? No? Me neither.

And thats my unbiased oppinion ; )
 

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I think politically correctness is bollocks. I think there are always consequences for all speech, I just can't see why people should be limited in what they say. If you act like a racist douche then I will try to be involved with you as little as possible.
 

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The Man With the Soap said:
harv3034 said:
The Man With the Soap said:
It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.
LOL

You have no idea how tempted I am to quote you in this essay I'm writing.

Would that be okay with you?
That depends, what is your thesis?
The gist of my thesis is that political correctness is a load of bullshit (yes ms. Maggio BULL shit, not Animal shit).
And that Maggio really needs to shut the fuck up about it.
 

EchetusXe

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As I understand it you're argument is a slippery slope fallacy. Unless of course she was saying he should not use the word 'fat' etc.

Anyway, here is the Chairman of the Conservative Party in the UK:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3505019990_6e6a5a7eb8.jpgp.

If you're react to this is 'lol' then maybe this politically correct person has a point, if your reaction is 'so what?' then maybe the person is wrong.

For anyone confused about my question then her race has nothing to do with it, its the fact that the Chairman (official title) has tits. Quite a pair actually but err, thats not very pc of me.
 

Vredesbyrd67

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Payola = Paying a mass communication service to feature one's own product/artist more prominently than others on the condition of payment to the service

Blackmail = Coercing someone into doing something they wouldn't normally want to do through the use of intimidation or threats

M'yeah. Payola =/= Blackmail.
 
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harv3034 said:
The Man With the Soap said:
harv3034 said:
The Man With the Soap said:
It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.
LOL

You have no idea how tempted I am to quote you in this essay I'm writing.

Would that be okay with you?
That depends, what is your thesis?
The gist of my thesis is that political correctness is a load of bullshit (yes ms. Maggio BULL shit, not Animal shit).
And that Maggio really needs to shut the fuck up about it.
Really? I would describe it more as chickenshit, but that's just my opinion.
 

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yeah that's crap!

life is offensive. grow a pair and not everyting needs to be sugarcoated(also the diabetics would not like everything to be sugarcoated).
that is what politicaly correct seems like to me.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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Screw political correctness sideways with a poleaxe. The lunatic fringe of liberals who are the biggest proponents of "PC language" are apparently completely oblivious to the sad fact that their incessant tap-dancing around language to avoid any possible method of giving offense is, in fact, offensive in and of itself - by treating the various minorities they're seeking to protect from being offended as distinct minorities in dire need of protection from having their feelings hurt by language that isn't even intentionally discriminatory for crying out loud, they hurt their own bloody cause.

Ham-handed attempts to make our language more "inclusive" ring false to just about everyone who isn't a wack-job Political Correctness proponent, as the unspoken message conveyed by PC language is thus: "You are a minority, so I shall alter my speech patterns to avoid inadvertently offending you in some way, and thereby draw further attention to the fact that when I look at you, I perceive your defining trait to be that you are a minority".

If you don't see the problem with that, consider the unspoken message conveyed when someone speaks to a minority the same way they speak to everyone else they meet (presuming of course that they do not ordinarily speak in a fashion that could only be perceived as denigrating to minorities by any reasonable listener[footnote]Not Political Correctness gurus in other words.[/footnote]): "You are a person, so I will speak to you like I speak to everyone else, duh."

In a nutshell, the pointless efforts to make our language [whatever]-blind only draws attention to the fact that the speaker isn't [whatever]-blind, as they felt they needed to change the way they speak on a fairly fundamental level because some people they might talk to are different than others. It's frankly rather insulting and condescending to the very individuals they're supposedly "protecting" by making those clunky revisions to our language. So screw Political Correctness - just treat people like people.
 

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RatRace123 said:
No no no no no!
I can stand by not using derogatory words to describe people who are: Black, Gay, Mentally Retarded.
Every single one of those terms is not PC. If you want the PC terms, it's "African American" (or whatever country you happen to be in), Homosexual, and Mentally Impaired.

Personally, I don't care either way. It's not the words themselves that are derogatory, but the context that they're in that makes them derogatory.
 

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I wouldn't use a racial slur or anything of the sorts against another person unless I'm angry at the person, but changing words such as "blackmail" because it can be deemed offensive is plainly retarded(not exceptional ^^).
 

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P.C governments need to die very quickly to preserve our way of life. This is a topic that I feel very strongly about and hate the state of my country because we can't play a game of conkers without FUCKING GOGGLES!
Or climb a tree without a safety harness.
Or go up a 4 foot ladder without a hard hat.
Or walk in the countryside in case we trip and sue the local council.
Or call christmas, christmas in case we offend Muslims.
Or call christmas lights, fairy lights in case we offend gay people.
Or change the words of an age old nursery rhyme so not to offend black people. Who were never offended by it in the first place.
Or call a chalk board a "black board" for the reason above.
Or not moving 3 caravans of Gypsy travellers off PRIVATE land next to my house because they "haven't done anything illegal yet".
Or you can't say brainstorm 'cos that's what happens to people with epilepsy when they have a fit. Even though the two things had never been connected until some bright spark thought it could offend someone!
Or do anything that involves leaving our homes without a written statement saying you won't sue anyone if you graze your knee!

"Bah Bah, African American Sheep. Have you any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir. 3 bags full.
Can I have it?
No. Get permission from the government to handle bags of wool so you don't come back and sue me, first!"

And you know the absolute worst thing?
A store chain called the "Early Learning Centre" that sells toys for small kids removed pigs from a farmyard set, in case it offended anyone.

WELL IT OFFENDS ME THAT YOU DID THAT!

Unknown person on the internet said:
I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
Quote from Violent Arces said:
Political correctness does not create a more tolerant society. It creates a society of people secretly consumed by resentment because one honest slip of the tongue can earn them a label as an intolerant boob. Political correctness limits speech and creates hatred where none existed in the first place.

Link [http://www.violentacres.com/archives/116/im-sick-of-political-correctness/]
Couldn't agree more.

Gildan Bladeborn said:
Screw political correctness sideways with a poleaxe. The lunatic fringe of liberals who are the biggest proponents of "PC language" are apparently completely oblivious to the sad fact that their incessant tap-dancing around language to avoid any possible method of giving offense is, in fact, offensive in and of itself - by treating the various minorities they're seeking to protect from being offended as distinct minorities in dire need of protection from having their feelings hurt by language that isn't even intentionally discriminatory for crying out loud, they hurt their own bloody cause.

Ham-handed attempts to make our language more "inclusive" ring false to just about everyone who isn't a wack-job Political Correctness proponent, as the unspoken message conveyed by PC language is thus: "You are a minority, so I shall alter my speech patterns to avoid inadvertently offending you in some way, and thereby draw further attention to the fact that when I look at you, I perceive your defining trait to be that you are a minority".

If you don't see the problem with that, consider the unspoken message conveyed when someone speaks to a minority the same way they speak to everyone else they meet (presuming of course that they do not ordinarily speak in a fashion that could only be perceived as denigrating to minorities by any reasonable listener[footnote]Not Political Correctness gurus in other words.[/footnote]): "You are a person, so I will speak to you like I speak to everyone else, duh."

In a nutshell, the pointless efforts to make our language [whatever]-blind only draws attention to the fact that the speaker isn't [whatever]-blind, as they felt they needed to change the way they speak on a fairly fundamental level because some people they might talk to are different than others. It's frankly rather insulting and condescending to the very individuals they're supposedly "protecting" by making those clunky revisions to our language. So screw Political Correctness - just treat people like people.
Plus everything said here.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
The Man With the Soap said:
harv3034 said:
The Man With the Soap said:
It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.
LOL

You have no idea how tempted I am to quote you in this essay I'm writing.

Would that be okay with you?
That depends, what is your thesis?

Worgen said:
The Man With the Soap said:
It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.
yeah, they should be like the rightist and just try and enslave and kill, sigh, what is the world coming to
I'm not advocating being a rightist. I think both extremes are equally stupid.
partly but it seems like one extreme is peta (which is stupid) and the other one is the kkk (which is stupid and dangerous)