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harv3034

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Worgen said:
partly but it seems like one extreme is peta (which is stupid) and the other one is the kkk (which is stupid and dangerous)
Oh god I totaly forgot about PETA.
*I try not to think about the KKK and neo-nazis so thanks for that*
 

Skratt

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The problem with PC is that it attempts to fix things in so many wrong ways. When you look at politically correct terms, they are attempting to correct people's attitudes through attrition. Attrition being if you stop hearing the words, you stop thinking in those terms, which is Noble on paper, but retarded in practice.

Handi-capped becomes handi-capable (WTF?) which completely breaks with the meaning and origins of the word in order to stem the tidal wave of cultural and social aggression that most of us just "live with". Changing fat to big-boned or fluffy doesn't make the subject of the conversation any more comfortable. There is no difference between saying someone is a "fat-ass" or a "big boned mfer".

If you want to be socially or politically correct, just use some tact and keep your opinions to yourself.
 

MR.Spartacus

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harv3034 said:
First, the context.
I am in the middle of writing a Persuasive essay on Freedom of Speech on College Campuses (worst topic ever by the way). As part of this assignment, I have to read various articles on the topic for homework so I can use some of them for source material and/or supporing/counterarguments.
Tonight's reading is called "Bias-Free Language: Some Guidelines" written by Rosalie Maggio. In this essay, Maggio says that political correctness is very important and that we need to activly work to instatute it into everyday language. At it's core this is a good thing, but the way she wants us to go about it sucks away all the credibility of the argument and throws the article into "parady mode."

Maggio says that when refering to a group of mixed gener or a person of unknown gender, we must not use words and phrases that imply masculinity (he, sir, waiter, ect...). Again, hard to dispute, but later she goes to suggest the general removal of the letter combinations m-a-n and m-e-n from many everyday words.
Under this policy, we would also have to change a great many other words on the grounds that they might offend 1 person out of 10,000. Fat would become "big-boned" or "differently sized", Stupid becomes "exceptional", and Stoned would be re-branded as "chemically inconvenienced".To prevent the chance of seeming racist, we would need to change "black eye" to "mouse", "black mail" to "payola", and "black sheep" to "outcast".
And these changes would need to be implemented, not just in writing, but in verbal communication as well.


To me, this is utterly rediculous. But I want your opinions as well.
So, what do you think?
It's patently absurd to alter one's language to this extent. I really can't say that there's anything I'd find offensive. I don't see why anyone cares. As long as they aren't going out of their way to be offensive then fine. If they are then the "offended party" needs to toughen up a bit. Unless it's a threat but that's a different story altogether.

Also I can see "exceptional" as an awesome way to insult someone stupid while they're present. That just oozes sarcasm. Yeah he's exceptional alright, exceptionally dim!
 

Ickorus

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ElTigreSantiago said:
Rediculous indeed.

I have found that using politicly correct terms makes things a lot more awkward than simply saying "black", for example. It throws it out there that you don't want to offend them and that you think you will offend them, it's just awkward for everybody.

And FYI, not every black person is an "African American". Like, what do we call black people living in England? African English? I know people that would call them African Americans simply so they don't call them black, even though they aren't American.
I had an American call me out on saying 'black guy' once and telling me off telling me I should be saying 'African American', I called him stupid (Exceptional!) and told him the guy I was referring to was another English guy like me so he can hardly be American.

By that womans[footnote]Wait, woman/women has man/men in it, we supposed to call them Wo's now then?[/footnote] logic we'll have to call black heads coloured heads because black heads obviously paint black people in a negative light.

Seriously, people that are politically correct and make sure that everything they say is PC are the most racist of us all.
 

ElTigreSantiago

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Ickorus said:
ElTigreSantiago said:
Rediculous indeed.

I have found that using politicly correct terms makes things a lot more awkward than simply saying "black", for example. It throws it out there that you don't want to offend them and that you think you will offend them, it's just awkward for everybody.

And FYI, not every black person is an "African American". Like, what do we call black people living in England? African English? I know people that would call them African Americans simply so they don't call them black, even though they aren't American.
I had an American call me out on saying 'black guy' once and telling me off telling me I should be saying 'African American', I called him stupid (Exceptional!) and told him the guy I was referring to was another English guy like me so he can hardly be American.

By that womans logic we'll have to call black heads coloured heads because black heads obviously paint black people in a negative light.

Seriously, people that are politically correct and make sure that everything they say is PC are the most racist of us all.
Thank you, my English friend. That story was a perfect example and it made me laugh.

Oh, wait! Did I say "English"? How blunt and offensive, I'm so sorry! I meant to say the politicly-correct term, "Inhabitant of Earth Living and/or Located in the Southern Area of the United Kingdom".
 

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I'm surprised how anti PC so many people are here.

I'll agree that sometimes it's gone too far, tho, as I said earlier, a vast amount of the bullshit you read about 'brainstorms' and 'black marker pens' and 'fairy lights', along with Christmas being banned, it's completely made up by the papers.

Has anyone been in ANY shops ANYWHERE recently? Want to tell me how there's no xmas stuff to be found anywhere, and that you can only buy inflatable mosques and happy jihad cards?

I think if most people think about it a little more, they'd consider PC to 'be a good thing that's gone too far sometimes', or perhaps you think all the racially and sexually abusive slang is just fine, and mocking disabled children is a good evening's entertainment.

We've come a long way from it being socially acceptable to refer to anyone as paki, darkie, coon, or ****** in casual conversation, and surely that's a good thing?

For instance , a recent event given a full page was about a council renaming 'gingerbread men' to 'gingerbread persons'. This was 'obviously' a sign that PC had taken over common sense and needed to be shouted from the rooftops.

Except that one phone call brought up that they'd called them that as a joke, based on how silly some people can be about PC stuff, and of course, national newspapers don't have time to go making a single phone in the name of...I don't know, 'research' or 'fact checking'. Not if it'd get in the way of a headline.
 

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People have the right to be offended, but they don't have the right to tell me that I should be offended too. So then they try to shut down whatever it is that offended them.
 

Kortney

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Let that great quote by Stewart Lee do the talking:

"I'm of an age where I can see the difference that political correctness has made. When I was four years old, my Grandfather drove me around Birmingham where the Tories had just fought an election campaign saying, "If you want a ****** for a neighbour. Vote Labour." And he drove me around saying "this is where all the coons and niggers and jungle bunnies live" and I remember being at school and the teacher when he read the register, instead of saying the name of the one Asian boy in the class he'd say "Is the black spot in?"

And all these things have gradually been eroded by political correctness which seems to be about institutionalised politeness at it's worse. And if there is some fallout from this which means that someone in an office might get in trouble one day for saying something that someone was a bit unsure about because they couldn't decide if it was sexist, or homophobic, or racist, it's a small price to pay for the massive benefits and improvements in the quality of the life for millions of people that political correctness has made."
 

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Lack of political correctness leads to some people in the US acting retarded and thinking ALL MOOSLEMS ARE EVULS!1!!1
 

WittyName

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I feel political correctness can impinge on Free Speech, but I respect the fact that certain terms can be seen as offensive.
However, I do think that P.C is being taken way too far.
 

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Latest PC madness from England - The Early Learning Centre (shop chain which sells toys for very young children) has removed the pigs from its barnyard playsets so it doesn't offend jews of muslims. Instead, they have managed to insult everyone else and made hundreds of children cry.
 

8-Bit Grin

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Am I politically correct? No?

Then I'd be a hypocrite for supporting it.

Which is why I'm a big fan of comedians who... overstep their boundaries. (Tard Happy)
 

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While I agree that people should try and be more courtious to eachother, I usually find the concept of "Political correctness" to be idiotic to say the least. Especially when people like this Maggio woman propose we overhaul the ENTIRE language with nonsense like removing thew word "black" or words containing M-A-N from our everyday language.
 

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ElTigreSantiago said:
Rediculous indeed.

I have found that using politicly correct terms makes things a lot more awkward than simply saying "black", for example. It throws it out there that you don't want to offend them and that you think you will offend them, it's just awkward for everybody.

And FYI, not every black person is an "African American". Like, what do we call black people living in England? African English? I know people that would call them African Americans simply so they don't call them black, even though they aren't American.
I know. I was reading a post on a website about a guy's conversation with an old man in a diner, who started telling him that his son was out in Africa as a missionary, and showed him a picture of 'nineteen african-americans and one caucasian'. African-American? Bullshit, they were just fucking *african*. Besides, what if you're neither african nor american? I'm not offended when somebody says I'm white, and I don't know anybody offended by the term 'black', as long as it's not a slur against them. Just keep it simple, ya morons -.-
 

Ashcrexl

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it's too much work. anything that creates unnecessary work, discomfort, and inefficiency is a piece of crap. even in language.
 

Lexodus

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And 'Big-boned'? That's a lie. It's not politically correct, it's a fucking LIE. Your bones are the same size as everybody else's (obviously, not everybody's exactly the same), you're just fucking FAT. You may have a glandular condition, you may have a polycystic ovary or some other bullshit you kid yourself into believing so you don't have to take responsibility for your unhealthy lifestyle, but the chances are you eat like shit, don't exercise and can't even SPELL 'vegetable', let alone stomach them. Yes, I am aware it's unfair to tar everybody with this brush, but goddamn it, you're an exception, not the rule. Besides, bones aren't jelly-like rolls that spill over your already-bursting trousers.
And if you're fat and this offends you, a) if you're going to whine at me you can go fuck yourself because I am NOT interested, or b) go do something about it and get LESS fat.

This is all coming from somebody who USED to be a big fat guy, got fed up with being a ridiculous waste of protoplasm and being afraid to look in the mirror, got off his ass and did something about it. And it's worked out fucking great for me; I'm well liked, I have a girlfriend who's crazy about me, I can look at myself in a mirror, and I don't have to lie to myself anymore.
 

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I am personally a very politically correct person. Shut up I am! But I would never take away the right for other people to express themselves in the way they see fit.

So yeah, I think removing men and man from some words for political correctness is completely ridiculous. And so is calling stupid people exceptional. And what is with this "blackmail/peyola" thing? Completely and utterly exceptional... I mean stupid.

Like some famous guy said: "I may not agree with everything you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."