Poll: Proud to be British
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I didnt say America is better. I just siad I'm American, so I cant say yes. And true, but still, you shouldnt make that statement without atleast acknowledging the things you've done (India, Native Americans, the Irish). I'll glad tell you all of the atrocities America has committed against people as well, but just recognize the faults. The effects are still clearly visible. And dont talk like that, not all Americans are slacked jawwed.Danny Ocean said:
Besides, to an extent the OP here could be saying that Britain is the best country since he made this pretty much for British people to say how patriotic they feel.
I'm Welsh, and I have many relatives over in the British Isles, not to mention the person closest to me.
I may not be native British, but I do take some pride in what little I am.
I may not be native British, but I do take some pride in what little I am.
Erm. I'm 36 so I have no poll option 
(yes yes, old and obsolete, I'm getting that a lot these days).
I certainly think that there are worse things to be and I understand that our history has not always been pretty and I understand that there is (incorrectly in my mind) a social stigma to saying that you have national pride.
I appreciate that I am here by virtue of serendipity and know that - by virtue of the efforts and causes of the people in our past - I am in a reasonably fortunate place.
So yes, I suppose pride is a fair enough word.
(yes yes, old and obsolete, I'm getting that a lot these days).I certainly think that there are worse things to be and I understand that our history has not always been pretty and I understand that there is (incorrectly in my mind) a social stigma to saying that you have national pride.
I appreciate that I am here by virtue of serendipity and know that - by virtue of the efforts and causes of the people in our past - I am in a reasonably fortunate place.
So yes, I suppose pride is a fair enough word.
The British nation is unique in this respect. They are the only people who like to be told how bad things are, who like to be told the worst.
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS
However
In the last 15 or 20 years, I've watched the British press simply go to hell. There seems to be no limit, no depths to which the tabloids won't sink. I don't know who these people are but they're little pigs.
David John Moore Cornwell (John Le Carre)
We are many things to many people, but we will always be British. /salute
Interesting topic.
The simple answer is: Yes.
Age: 22 (just cause you asked)
The longer one is:
While the UK as a whole certainly has a rich and vibrant history, which is something I will always be grateful for having learnt, and when the education system works, it's one of the best in the world.
With that said what has it achieved recently?
Slowly increasing levels of teen pregnancy (to each their own, but most arn't planned)
Staggering Knife crime rates, which in 2008 - 2009 were listed as "stable", but is stable actually acceptable?
The head's of state have been out of touch for quite a few years (current and previous government)
On the other hand, I no longer live in the UK, but I cite it as the cause of many of my mannerisms, and if anyone asks where the accent is from I have no issue in telling them, despite the fact I know I'll get a joking form of racism slung back at me (before anyone asks, I know it's joking and am thusly not offended, but other people might still be.)
The simple answer is: Yes.
Age: 22 (just cause you asked)
The longer one is:
While the UK as a whole certainly has a rich and vibrant history, which is something I will always be grateful for having learnt, and when the education system works, it's one of the best in the world.
With that said what has it achieved recently?
Slowly increasing levels of teen pregnancy (to each their own, but most arn't planned)
Staggering Knife crime rates, which in 2008 - 2009 were listed as "stable", but is stable actually acceptable?
The head's of state have been out of touch for quite a few years (current and previous government)
On the other hand, I no longer live in the UK, but I cite it as the cause of many of my mannerisms, and if anyone asks where the accent is from I have no issue in telling them, despite the fact I know I'll get a joking form of racism slung back at me (before anyone asks, I know it's joking and am thusly not offended, but other people might still be.)
Without knowing the specifics of your geneology, I would advise you not to go telling the real Irish that you're "proud to be Irish". Nothing pisses them off more. As far as they are concerned, if you aren't born or raised in Ireland, you can't claim to have any Irish in you, no matter how many O'Reillys you might have in your family tree.enzilewulf said:
Wanna talk about the native Americans? I'm 6% Cherokee. Lets talk about what you "did" for MY people. Lets talk about hte small pox, the rapid annihilations, the complete raping of our people so you could have your gold and tobacco.Druss the Slayer said:
Or the Native Indians, with the caste system you've left in the country that still does exist today and creates a hopeless class situation some can never hope to escape, damning them at birth.
And the most recent thing i saw that "influenced" by Brits in the African countries was Apartheid. Besides, you could say the same as the state they were in before you went there. I'm pretty sure Slavery wasnt the huge thing that Britian and other world powers made it. And before you tell me about the American slavery movement, let me remind you that were it not for the battle of Anteitam, you (britian) would have rushed gun ho to America to protect the pro-slavery south and save your cotton investments.
Listen, I'm not saying that any country is greater, but you shouldnt whitewash things like that. Especially on an international forum site.
I'm not British. I'm Scottish.
Seriously though, I'm hoping we become independant. Not 'cause there's anything wrong with you other countries of course, hell I think you guys are awesome most of the time! You all have such lovely accents... But I still think I want independance. Mostly as I don't agree with our government and don't like the fact that though we didn't want them as a country, we were outnumbered and are now saddled with the same guys who buggered us back in the days of Thatcher.
So no, I'm not proud to be British because I don't see myself as that, but if I did then yeah, I probably would be.
Seriously though, I'm hoping we become independant. Not 'cause there's anything wrong with you other countries of course, hell I think you guys are awesome most of the time! You all have such lovely accents... But I still think I want independance. Mostly as I don't agree with our government and don't like the fact that though we didn't want them as a country, we were outnumbered and are now saddled with the same guys who buggered us back in the days of Thatcher.
So no, I'm not proud to be British because I don't see myself as that, but if I did then yeah, I probably would be.
Britain includes Scotland, its England, Scotland and Wales. Northern Ireland is just part of the UK.Mackheath said:
Yes I would say I am proud of being British because of our rich history and great culture and how multi cultural cities like London really are. I may not like our government but I still like the country even if I can't help but be typically cynical most of the time in that British way.
Yeah but Scots hate everyone for no good reason dan.Danny Ocean said:
Anyway, I don't think national pride is something I really feel unless it's for a sports team or to the defence of us as a whole, which doesn't really count.
Why is there no indifferent? It's either flag waving patriot or anarchistic rebel. I vote for apathy!
Emerald, if you're 6% cherokee, don't fecking mention it mate. I'm probably 1% French, or Norse; yet you will not find me talking about myself as though I'm French, or Scandinavian.
And I would hold your arguement in higher stead, if you spelt Britain correctly.
And I would hold your arguement in higher stead, if you spelt Britain correctly.
