Poll: Psychokinesis?

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Beryl77

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I don''t believe it until someone really proves it and I mean really proves this, not this Uri Geller bullshit. But I doubt someone would really be able to do that.
 

Queen Michael

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My opinion on it is that had it been real, we would not have argued about whether it exists or not, but rather about why it exists.
 

DarthFennec

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It's bullshit, it's got `magic trick' written all over it. Not that I don't respect people who can do these tricks, I wish I could spend my life rolling the country and pretending to be magic and being paid for it, but you know, it's all fake. Like that thing that was big on youtube a while ago, popping popcorn with cell phones, it's just a trick.
 

the Dept of Science

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If it was real, it would be all over the news.
Science would declare itself wrong, bin itself and start from scratch.

The fact that this hasn't happened suggests that psychokinesis has never been demonstrated in a controlled environment (ie. one where it couldn't be faked).
 

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nairb1582 said:
There is sparse documented evidence of little things that appear like Psychokinesis. Variations in a persons bio-electrical generation, that on a hypothetical example, might make them slightly magnetic or magnetically negative. So they could push paper clips away from them very very slowly. However, it isn't voluntary, has nothing to with the mind, and is very rare and even harder to test. I believe sturgeon's law applies here.
Everyone and everything (all matter) is slightly magnetic. Also, there is no such thing as "magnetically negative".
 

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rokkolpo said:
Bacterial-Ash said:
rokkolpo said:
i believe in it.

alot of uri geller shows have let me to believe in such things.
unless it's all just an elaborate hoax wich i sincerely doubt.
Its all fake. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Ive learned to do quite a lot of those so called "supernatural" stunts, and they're all incredibly easy once you know the "trick" to them, so I have no reason to believe the ones I DONT know yet are real.
You have to believe in the magic! *waves arms* my bubble will remain whole. i like it in my bubble, nice and cozy. SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER SHUUUUUNNN! *reference*
Untill someone wins the 1000000 dollar challenge Im not believing any of it.
(Charly)

About the psychic healers: dont even get me started, beyond retarded, all of them.
(Kind of like religion, yay!)

*getting himself established as an athiest*
 

the Dept of Science

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HG131 said:
Furburt said:
When just one of them proves these abilities under strictly regulated laboratory conditions, then I'll start believing in it.
Well, psychic healers have already done that.
If psychic healers were proved to work, then they would be put to use in hospitals. Considering the difficulties of actual surgery, the medical profession would jump at people that could magically cure people.

Again, science changes itself when new data comes to light. If there was evidence to suggest that psychic healing was possible (ie. had a statistically significant effect compared with a similarly administered placebo), then science would have to take that into account and change its theories accordingly.
This hasn't happened.

Also, consider what your evidence is. Do you really consider "something I saw on a TV show once" superior evidence to "what all reputable scientists believe"?
 

rokkolpo

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Bacterial-Ash said:
rokkolpo said:
Bacterial-Ash said:
rokkolpo said:
i believe in it.

alot of uri geller shows have let me to believe in such things.
unless it's all just an elaborate hoax wich i sincerely doubt.
Its all fake. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Ive learned to do quite a lot of those so called "supernatural" stunts, and they're all incredibly easy once you know the "trick" to them, so I have no reason to believe the ones I DONT know yet are real.
You have to believe in the magic! *waves arms* my bubble will remain whole. i like it in my bubble, nice and cozy. SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER SHUUUUUNNN! *reference*
(Charly)
Wrong it's charlie. get your facts straight! xD

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Folio

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For any person who can really do it, there are 100 others who screw it up by acting as if they do and get all the attention. After that, people will find out it's fake and get dissapointed and rage in a childish fit that it's 'not possible' just so they won't fall for it again and break their ambitious hearts.

You can't explain it because the psychics can't do so themselves. They had to learn everything by themselves. And if you think their explanation is too 'vague' or 'not logical' than you already gave up on being open to new things.

We said the earth was flat and you wouldn't DARE to say otherwise!
We said people can never fly and you were CRAZY to try it!
We say Psychokenisis/Ghost Whispering/Clairvoyancy is not possible and yet we hold ourselves from that ability just by thinking that.
 

DarthFennec

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the Dept of Science said:
If psychic healers were proved to work, then they would be put to use in hospitals. Considering the difficulties of actual surgery, the medical profession would jump at people that could magically cure people.
Kind of. The reason I'm commenting is there are plenty of herbal and other natural medicines that work much better than drugs and so forth, and none of those have been tested in a scientifically controlled environment. Mind you, those aren't psychic, but they aren't used in hospitals and I wouldn't believe that those worked at all if I wasn't personally using them daily. What I'm getting at is, just because something works better doesn't mean the scientists and doctors are going to believe it does, enough to actually put it through a scientific test. Though that doesn't change my mind, I still don't believe in psychic healing.
 

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If someone could prove it to me, then I might believe it. For now, not buying it.
 

Blueruler182

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Yes, it is real. I can blow people up with my mind. I'm petting my dog with a floating fish as we speak.
 

DarthFennec

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On the other hand, this got me thinking. Now I'm really not trying to start anything, so if someone goes after me about this and I think it looks a little like the kindlings of a flame war, I just won't answer. Also, I'm just relating my experiences and I don't expect anyone here to believe me, and I won't try to convince you. I'm a Christian, and I know that prayer works. I have personally walked up to people and prayed for them, and within seconds a broken leg is completely healed, or Scoliosis is totally gone, or chronic depression stops and never returns, or as long as I remember to check up on that person. Prayer has done amazing things, and often I'm surprised at how effective it is. As much as prayer has worked for me, there have been just as many times when it does nothing. But it's worked more than enough to convince me.
 

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tehweave said:
Can I choose two?

"I want to believe but..." "It's bullshit!"
"I want to believe but..." kind of implies that your bullshit detectors are going off.
 

Bacterial-Ash

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DarthFennec said:
On the other hand, this got me thinking. Now I'm really not trying to start anything, so if someone goes after me about this and I think it looks a little like the kindlings of a flame war, I just won't answer. Also, I'm just relating my experiences and I don't expect anyone here to believe me, and I won't try to convince you. I'm a Christian, and I know that prayer works. I have personally walked up to people and prayed for them, and within seconds a broken leg is completely healed, or Scoliosis is totally gone, or chronic depression stops and never returns, or as long as I remember to check up on that person. Prayer has done amazing things, and often I'm surprised at how effective it is. As much as prayer has worked for me, there have been just as many times when it does nothing. But it's worked more than enough to convince me.
You know, I used to pray to the great Juju at the bottom of the sea, and I found something remarkable happening: As long as I didnt ask for the completely rediculous (Sadly, I really wanted a translating fish T-T),roughly 50% of the time, whatever I prayed for, came to be! Does that make me a believer in said great Juju?

No, it doesnt. I only means probability is one of the more predictable version of mathematics.

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Bacterial-Ash said:
DarthFennec said:
On the other hand, this got me thinking. Now I'm really not trying to start anything, so if someone goes after me about this and I think it looks a little like the kindlings of a flame war, I just won't answer. Also, I'm just relating my experiences and I don't expect anyone here to believe me, and I won't try to convince you. I'm a Christian, and I know that prayer works. I have personally walked up to people and prayed for them, and within seconds a broken leg is completely healed, or Scoliosis is totally gone, or chronic depression stops and never returns, or as long as I remember to check up on that person. Prayer has done amazing things, and often I'm surprised at how effective it is. As much as prayer has worked for me, there have been just as many times when it does nothing. But it's worked more than enough to convince me.
You know, I used to pray to the great Juju at the bottom of the sea, and I found something remarkable happening: As long as I didnt ask for the completely rediculous (Sadly, I really wanted a translating fish T-T),roughly 50% of the time, whatever I prayed for, came to be! Does that make me a believer in said great Juju?

No, it doesnt. I only means probability is one of the more predictable version of mathematics.

(Free internets for whoever catches the reference!)
Translating fish... That sounds like Hitchhiker's Guide!
 

DarthFennec

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Bacterial-Ash said:
DarthFennec said:
On the other hand, this got me thinking. Now I'm really not trying to start anything, so if someone goes after me about this and I think it looks a little like the kindlings of a flame war, I just won't answer. Also, I'm just relating my experiences and I don't expect anyone here to believe me, and I won't try to convince you. I'm a Christian, and I know that prayer works. I have personally walked up to people and prayed for them, and within seconds a broken leg is completely healed, or Scoliosis is totally gone, or chronic depression stops and never returns, or as long as I remember to check up on that person. Prayer has done amazing things, and often I'm surprised at how effective it is. As much as prayer has worked for me, there have been just as many times when it does nothing. But it's worked more than enough to convince me.
You know, I used to pray to the great Juju at the bottom of the sea, and I found something remarkable happening: As long as I didnt ask for the completely rediculous (Sadly, I really wanted a translating fish T-T),roughly 50% of the time, whatever I prayed for, came to be! Does that make me a believer in said great Juju?

No, it doesnt. I only means probability is one of the more predictable version of mathematics.
True, except bones usually don't have a 50% probability of completely healing five minutes after they had been broken. Of course I wouldn't know personally, I've never broken a bone. The difference is I'm praying for completely ridiculous things.