Poll: Really though... EA? Why?

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Arachon

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DrunkenKitty said:
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olaffub42 said:
I completely agree with you, sure they have some bad games, but doesn't every developer?
They are actually a publisher.

The hate manly comes from their ungodly number of releases for sport franchises sucking people's money away from better titles.
Not to be a smartass, but EA are the kings of Sports games. Fair enough looking at ALL sports games, there is a tight competition, but EA have been doing for 15 years? It's the genre that has kept them alive!
He's not being a smartass. There's a huge difference between a developer and a publisher. EA doesn't develop many games at all, but they publish lots of them.

Developers develop games. They design them, code them, create art for them.

Publishers pay the developers wages while the game is being made and distribute the game once it's complete.

Mass Effect was developed by Bioware. Sims and Spore were developed by Maxis. EA publishes games for lots of studios:
* EA Redwood Shores
* EA Los Angeles
* EA Montreal
* BioWare
* EA Digital Illusions CE
* Pandemic Studios
* EA Black Box
* Maxis
* EA Phenomic
* Criterion Games
* Mythic Entertainment

You should know stuff like this if you want to get into the industry.
All of those, except BioWare and Pandemic Studios are owned by EA... As in bought and nommed to shreds by the big evil corporate EA-machine... Ala Westwood studios...
 

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sheic99 said:
olaffub42 said:
I completely agree with you, sure they have some bad games, but doesn't every developer?
They are actually a publisher.

The hate manly comes from their ungodly number of releases for sport franchises sucking people's money away from better titles.
That would be merely opinion of course ;) I'm quite happy to have my money sucked away by the NHL series.
 

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I'm not particularly bothered about EA, they make some amazing games (as well as some mediocre ones), but I don't like how they take over the publishing of certain game series, and releases after the take-over have ditched the clean interface in favour of an overly-urban affair. One example of this is Burnout. Paradise was definitely the best in the series, but it's now all scruffy, with a third of the soundtrack being hiphop and a radio DJ that irritates the hell out of me. Thank the Lord he can be turned off.

Their newer series seem to suffer from "urbanosis" as well - "skate." was digusting in that aspect.
 
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LOOY said:
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I don't like EA because they have barely released anything good in the past year.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Within the last year and some-odd months:
Battlefield: Bad Co.
Skate
Skate 2
Mirrors Edge
Dead Space
Mercs 2
Burnout Paradise
Boom Blox

etc, etc....

This is widely considered to be one of EA's strongest release years EVER. Don't begin to claim they haven't released anything good this year.
All those games are crap
all of these games and one thing in common

''over hyped''


you know they are really trying to break away from the sims fame and have a bit more of a edge.i feel like i should sit them down like excited children that they are and tell them off.


but whats the point you know where the ''gaming industry'' is heading now: more money


what happend to the good old days...=[
 

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Credge said:
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Wait, what syndrome is this?
More of the same syndrome.

LOOY said:
All those games are crap
Seeing as how some of those are some of the only good games made this generation, sure, why not.
Oh. Then how come Half Life isn't in there? Or Call of Duty? Or at lot of games for that matter? Because pretty much every sequel ever is just more of the same of it's predecessor.
 

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Because command and conquer has become gradually worse since they took over.
 
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zhoomout said:
sorry user name taken. said:
All of these games and one thing in common

''Over-hyped''


You know they are really trying to break away from the Sims fame and have a bit more of an edge. I feel like I should sit them down like the excited children that they are and tell them off.


What's the point? You know where the "gaming industry" is heading now: more money


What happend to the good old days...=[
Don't kid yourself, the gaming industry has always been after money. Now they just have a different way to do it.

I don't get all the hate on EA. If people don't like the games they publish then they aren't forced to buy them. Even if there is hatred, surely it should go to the people who actually make the games rather than those who publish them?
i'm fed up of buying something and being disappointed thats all.i seems like the people that make the games are under pressure really...like lionhead
 

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EA have released some gems, although it's been overshadowed with bad bits of coal. I'll stop the mineral metaphor there and say:

You can't really say EA release nothing but bad games because it's a matter of opinion. If the game doesn't work or is hated by every single person it's a bad game. It's really down to opinion whether you think EA sucks or not, there is no definitive verdict.
 

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I dislike EA for a number of reasons. The first is their tendency to produce shovelware. Their second is their predilection for forcibly acquiring IP's, and then delivering a long line of mediocre games. The third reason is the simple fact that they rarely seek to create new IP, though Dead Space and Mirror's Edge do shine some hope into those areas.

But if you want the short version, I don't like EA because I've been delivered more bad gaming experiences by them than good ones.
 

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I personally don't think people are getting the point of the thread. Rather than the game quality, shouldn't we be touching on the big DRM issue?
 

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I personally like EA, only because I regard them as just another bunch of people who make a few games I enjoy.

I ignore the rest of their library altogether. Perhaps that's what causes me not to hate them as much as everyone else does.

I like all of their Lord of the Rings games, and I'm currently enjoying Freedom Fighters very much.

Really, I don't see a reason for people to hate them except because they're the biggest and they rake in money people think more artistic or accomplished publishers/developers deserve.

In my opinion, it's the same reason people flame FFVII. It's not a bad game, rather a pretty good game. But it's the biggest, and it's a huge franchise that garners money and popularity people feel is deserved by other titles.
 

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I don't criticize EA for publishing a sports game every year. That's selling to your market: these people want football/basketball/hockey/miscellaneous and are willing to pay for it. That's just selling to your market. Besides, how much innovation do you expect in a game where all the rules are already made? The people will keep buying a new one yearly, do you honestly blame them for putting out a bucket under the money waterfall?

I'm not going to base my impression of their corporate ethics on the software titles. They release titles and charge you money. I don't criticize for charging for downloadable content: when programmers make a map pack, the company sells it to you: I don't expect to get the fruits of their labour for free. Provided the game was complete at launch, I don't feel bad paying for more of it; and yes, I think Mirror's Edge was complete.

The only thing that I might level my criticism at them for is aggressive Digital Rights Management software, but even then they are trying to stop people from stealing* from them. Even with the SECUrom issues, they're openly backing off of that and admitting they went too far. That increases my measure of them.


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Mind you, I'm a bloody hypocrite on this as I download almost all my music. I refuse to pay $25 for a new CD. That is too much.
 

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LOOY said:
All those games are crap
Says you.

How about saying 'I THINK' these games are crap. I can't argue with YOUR opinion, but you certainly don't speak for me (or anyone else here), so don't make broad statements like that.

It will also make you sound like less of a big poopy-head.
 

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black lincon said:
I'll give you a hint, Madden. It's not just madden but games like it, EA has the habit of re-releasing the same game for another $60, something they could easily do with DLC. It's not that EA makes no good games but people don't appreciate them releasing the same game 5 years in a row and forcing you to pay full price for a roster update.
why would I buy the same game again...haha your being silly ^^
hehe I cant understand why some of my friends buy the new FIFA every year. They are totally the same!!(almost)
 

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DirkGently said:
Oh. Then how come Half Life isn't in there? Or Call of Duty? Or at lot of games for that matter? Because pretty much every sequel ever is just more of the same of it's predecessor.
Because none of those games are console exclusives. Also because none of those are >made< by EA.
 

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Credge said:
DirkGently said:
Oh. Then how come Half Life isn't in there? Or Call of Duty? Or at lot of games for that matter? Because pretty much every sequel ever is just more of the same of it's predecessor.
Because none of those games are console exclusives. Also because none of those are >made< by EA.
Neither is Halo. And last time I checked, EA didn't make exclusives. They make their games for all platforms to make as much money as possible.
 

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Broloth said:
DirkGently said:
Broloth said:
ike_luv said:
Sorry my last comment was at...
black lincon said:
I'll give you a hint, Madden. It's not just madden but games like it, EA has the habit of re-releasing the same game for another $60, something they could easily do with DLC. It's not that EA makes no good games but people don't appreciate them releasing the same game 5 years in a row and forcing you to pay full price for a roster update.
Yeah... Half-Life?
Half-Life doesn't cost $60, that's what separates it from other games.

and in Madden's defense, the games do change every time, to update teams and stuff, since teams keep changing IRL.

a few games that have this syndrome are
Halo
World of Warcraft
Street Fighter
Mortal Kombat
Soul Calibur
Wait, what syndrome is this?
The "Release the Same Game with Slightly Better Graphics and a Few New Things" Syndrome
As was already said, a lot of games suffer from that. Half Life, Call of Duty, and a lot of other games are just "The previous game, with new shit". So, Halo doens't really belong in there, seeing as the sequels were largely different from the previous game, and WoW doesn't either because the graphics really haven't that improved (or atleast the system reqs) and there's a whole pile of new shit added all the time. And from having overhearing an hour long discussion on the Soul Calibur series going on between some of my friends yesterday, there's a whole mess of shit that goes into each character, and balancing them out. I assume the same can be said about Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter.