Poll: Replacement for the M16?

[sansamour14]

Well ive been looking at the m16s history and i find it had to believe that it has been in service for almost 60 years with no replacement in sight i know its a good rifle but i think its about time we equip our soldiers with better tech cuz like a computer u can keep upgrading it but eventually you'll have to replace it.

Wat are your suggestions please have the name, manufacturer, country of origin, and why it should be the next primary infantry rifle and if you think the rifle shouldn't be replaced please elaborate.

Please also take into account that if your rifle were to become the next standard our soldiers will have to use it so please dont choose a rifle just cuz u think its cool but think of does who will have to use it in combat.

 

[Cody211282]

It was replaced by the M4 already.

 

[AWDMANOUT]

By this... You mean the US military... right? You should be a bit more specific.

And well, I dunno. What about the XMB Battlefield has been so apparently crazy over?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg

 

[Cherry Cola]

I've heard about this new type of warfare the Japanese are using. We should adapt to it and try to master it before they have a chance of using it against us.

It's pretty scary stuff.

Spoiler: Here's a picture

They call them Pokemon

Other than that though, I don't see a need for replacing any standardized weapons the military might have. It's not like most threats soldiers will encounter nowadays has anything more advanced than they have.

 

[capin Rob]

By this... You mean the US military... right? You should be a bit more specific.

And well, I dunno. What about the XMB Battlefield has been so apparently crazy over?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg

It was Orignally going to be that, But It WILL be the HK416.

Spoiler: HK416

 

[-AC80-]

Famas? SCAR-H? XM8? i dont know but in games i like the m16 as the handle iron sights just looks rally good so i guess it may stay for now.

 

[sansamour14]

It was replaced by the M4 already.

the M4 was derived from the M16 but it has not become the primary rifle but it complements it


as for the XM8 it was shelved for unknown reasons which to me sounds like the US army doesn't want their primary rifle to be foreign but american made

 

[lizards]

By this... You mean the US military... right? You should be a bit more specific.

And well, I dunno. What about the XMB Battlefield has been so apparently crazy over?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg

agreed and good diagram

 

[x434343]

Let's see...

Jesus. In the 80's there was the Advanced Combat Rifle Program meant to replace the M16. The three final proofs-of-concept were the Steyr ACR (Bullpup, fired flechette rounds), the Colt ACR (It still used the AR-15 design) and the H&K G11 (Caseless ammo). The ACR Program was dropped due to the fact it would be too expensive.

The XM8 went to the ground not because it was foreign (remember, the US doesn't judge: Our MG's tend to be FN, our SMGs thend to be HK), but because of funding.

The SCAR is currently NOT a full replacement. It's a partial replacement, used by special forces. Same with HK 416, used basically by Delta.

So, because it fits a 'magic 3' in terms of DoD standards (low cost, simple to teach to use, modular) it remains in our system. Replacement rounds have begun again recently.

 

[sansamour14]

i just find that during the testing they require 100% better performance for a replacement and that doesn't seem logically possible

 

[teisjm]

Obviously everyone should dualwield shotguns, or train in sustained sprinting and knife teleporting. Or just use grenade launchers.

According to teh internet, this is the most imbalanced and overpowered forms of combat (besides ninjas, nothing trumphs ninjas, cept for stronger ninjas)

 

[Judgement101]

By this... You mean the US military... right? You should be a bit more specific.

And well, I dunno. What about the XMB Battlefield has been so apparently crazy over?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg

Ahhhh pure recoil and barrel overheating.

 

[Phoenixlight]

The A.C.R. Bushmaster seems like a better weapon, it's really accurate and has little recoil in Modern Warfare 2.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

I think they should use the alien dancing raygun from the first episode of south park. Go on america, you have a huge military budget, you know you guys can make one. Get to it.

 

[Jackson - Deathclaw]

I think they should use the alien dancing raygun from the first episode of south park. Go on america, you have a huge military budget, you know you guys can make one. Get to it.

or maybe the Groovitron from Ratchet and Clank

 

[Trivun]

Here in the UK we use the L-98 series. Single-shot, have to cock it after each shot, but a very good range and easy to use and maintain. Easy to strip down, too. I trained with a cadet version when I was in the CCF (Combined Cadet Force) in school, RAF section, and it was so easy to handle. It's a modified version for cadet use of what the British troops use in the field out in Iraq and Afghanistan and wherever, though I'm not sure how long it's been in service. But surely, for all countries, weapons should be recycled and a new version or a more advanced weapon be made available when new technology is developed? Upgrades can only get you so far, eventually as the technology changes military forces need to change with it, right?

EDIT: I've been informed that the above post is wrong, so here's what I've been told is right now.

Spoiler

The L-98 is just a general purpose cadet-use rifle that's essentially just a modified version of the L-85, so it fires bolt-action instead of semi-automatic. Though younger friends of mine from my old school who still go there and are still part of the CCF (I left two years ago for university) have informed me that they've replaced the L-98 now with a different modified version of L-85, that fires semi-automatic instead of bolt-action. Not sure how true that is, since I haven't seen it (and I'm not sure how wise it would be to give cadets semi-automatics with live ammo...), but that's what I've been told.

 

[Kais86]

It was replaced by the M4 already.

The M4 is a piece of crap, even in comparison to the M16. I used them when I was a tank driver and I can honestly say I would rely on my pistol before I relied on my M4. The infantry units attached to my company used M16s and I was intensely jealous of them, I knew why I couldn't have one (won't fit in my vehicle) but that doesn't mean I was happy about it.

To be honest, what I really wanted was the P90, simply because it has a huge magazine and will fit in the tank. Though I wouldn't suggest using it to replace anything on a large scale.

 

[Dmatix]

Well, the Israeli's are currently replacing the M16 with the TAR-21, or Tavor. The gun had showed to be more accurate and reliable then the M4 in field testing (Looks pretty badass too).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Tavor_TAR-21

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Well ive been looking at the m16s history and i find it had to believe that it has been in service for almost 60 years with no replacement in sight i know its a good rifle but i think its about time we equip our soldiers with better tech cuz like a computer u can keep upgrading it but eventually you'll have to replace it.

Wat are your suggestions please have the name, manufacturer, country of origin, and why it should be the next primary infantry rifle and if you think the rifle shouldn't be replaced please elaborate.

Please also take into account that if your rifle were to become the next standard our soldiers will have to use it so please dont choose a rifle just cuz u think its cool but think of does who will have to use it in combat.

I read an artical here on the escapist that the ACR from cod does exist in its very very new stages, research and first prototypes i believe. Very few people previously knew it even existed. I think thats in line to replace the scar that is currently weapon of choice. Or still being integrated.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Here in the UK we use the L-98 series. Single-shot, have to cock it after each shot, but a very good range and easy to use and maintain. Easy to strip down, too. I trained with a cadet version when I was in the CCF (Combined Cadet Force) in school, RAF section, and it was so easy to handle. It's a modified version for cadet use of what the British troops use in the field out in Iraq and Afghanistan and wherever, though I'm not sure how long it's been in service. But surely, for all countries, weapons should be recycled and a new version or a more advanced weapon be made available when new technology is developed? Upgrades can only get you so far, eventually as the technology changes military forces need to change with it, right?

Ive had basic training with this modified version but never got the chance to fire it with live ammunition. It im a pretty good shot with the old bolt actions though, reminds me of the SA80 which i thought was our current gun no?