Poll: Semi-nudity and different genders

[The Hero Killer]

Its funny how we as humans are the only species who have this problem with modesty.

Its like wondering why do we find the part of a female's body where she stores milk attractive? Were we taught to think like this? Why must they cover up and while males do not have to? Both genders have nipples and areolas, is it the size of a female's chest that makes it so taboo? Do we see it as a threat to the female since we view breasts in a sexual nature and it makes them more vunerable to rape if they are left in plain view?

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

Men don't have boobs. I thought that would be pretty obvious...

We do have breasts. They're just not as developed as that of a woman's. Yes, that does also mean we have mammary glands, IIRC.

What? No we d... WHAT?!?!

 

[tzimize]

if a woman did the same, parents would be averting their children's eyes, media companies would be barraged with complaints and she'd be made to put clothes on or, laws permitting, even arrested (Can the police do that? It sounds plausible).

Sorry to go a bit off topic, but I live in an area where women are legally allowed to go top-"free" should they choose to. It's actually a pretty sexist notion to allow men to go without tops but not allow women to do so, so the laws were changed. Funnily enough, when I see a women going topless, I notice it's only other women who get annoyed or angry with her. Doesn't happen too often though, other than March Break.

Yeah...strange that. Its almost like men dont mind looking at boobs

 

[Jonluw]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

Nudity isn't about displaying skin, it's about displaying sexual body parts.
The fact that women have sexual body parts in a place where men don't, doesn't mean that women should be allowed to show off this part of their body because men can.

Say I had a penis on my knee: Just because people who don't have penises on their knees are allowed to display their knees, that doesn't mean I should be allowed to display my penis.

If breasts should be allowed to be displayed in public, so should, for example, asses.

That said, I believe women should be allowed to go topless, but optimally, I don't think there should be any problems with people walking completely naked in the streets either.

 

[Vryyk]

Wait, as a guy I can go around topless? Why did no one tell me this? *removes bra*

 

[Dags90]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

What organs are you referring to? I hope it's not the mammary glands...there's really not much sexual about those unless you're kind of freaky, and men have them, too.

 

[brunothepig]

It's because the female breasts, whether you agree with the view or not, are regarded as sexual objects, much more so than a man's bare chest. Women's nipples are more sensitive, they actually have breasts (moobs don't count) etc.
So they get censored to "protect the children". Which I actually agree with, for once. Parents can choose to explain about all that crap when they want and all that.

 

[Verlander]

There's a whole lotta shit I don't want to see... and that's mostly topless men. In this country (UK) it's a problem every time it stops raining, and our miserable sun pops its head around a cloud, warming this moist country to about 3 degrees C. What can you expect from a country whose genetic makeup is 98% inbred chavvy scum? I say keep clothes on unless in a designated place, and I'm a fucking liberal

 

[Jonluw]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

What organs are you referring to? I hope it's not the mammary glands...there's really not much sexual about those unless you're kind of freaky, and men have them, too.

It's the fat around the mammary glands. It's associated with sexuality.

I made an edit to my post, further elaborating on my stance, by the way.

 

[Jonluw]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

What organs are you referring to? I hope it's not the mammary glands...there's really not much sexual about those unless you're kind of freaky, and men have them, too.

The fat surrounding the mammary glands is associated with sexuality, like it or not.

I made an edit to my post further elaborating my stance, by the way.

Edit: Double post. Ignore my idiocy.

 

[Vandy]

Because bare boobs are too Awesome for the general public.

 

[MrStab]

Female breasts are viewed sexually males aren't end of story.

 

[Catchy Slogan]

Boobs rock, but they wouldn't be so special if they weren't covered up for special occasions.

Very valid point. But then, you could still have that secret awesomeness while making men cover up - the gender bias is still removed.

A man's body isn't nearly as appealing as a woman's body.

Sexual preference regardless, everybody likes seeing an attractive female. Straight women, gay women, straight men and gay men all appreciate an attractive woman, but the same cannot be said for an attractive man.

Some call it gender bias, I call it "who the fuck cares, its the way things are".

You obviously don't speak for me. You could give me an attractive man over a woman any day. Wait, that didn't come out right. Ah, screw it. But I agree with your last point. I don't really care.

 

[Aurgelmir]

Why is it that it's more acceptable for public displays of male semi-nudity (i.e. topless) than for females? You see it everywhere: ads for fragrances, at the beach, on a hot day, on TV, in movies, etc. Men can just walk around with their t-shirts off, bare chested, and nobody cares; if a woman did the same, parents would be averting their children's eyes, media companies would be barraged with complaints and she'd be made to put clothes on or, laws permitting, even arrested (Can the police do that? It sounds plausible.).

Obviously, there are plenty of nude woman in more adult films and on Page 3 of the Sun, but male toplessness is a lot more common and a lot less frowned upon - why is that? When it comes to below-the-belt nudity, it's a different story; fully naked males and females are both a bit "taboo", if you know what I mean. What's so different about the other half?

EDIT: Another point I'd like to make - if you see topless women in magazines (like candid celebrity photos or whatever), only the nipples will be censored, usually with little stars. Men have nipples too, right? So it's obviously not the fleshy, breast tissue that's the "problem", it's the nipples - this makes less sense because the breast tissue is the only thing different between men's and women's chests (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Female Breasts are connected with sexuality and reproduction, and therefore is considered by many to be as naughty as genitalia. The male chest has no such stigma.

A bare chested man would be equal to a woman wearing a Bikini.
Personally I like that most women cover them up, makes it a lot more fun in the bedroom.

Now what I NEVER understood is why so many countries thinks a thong-bikini is inappropriate... whats "bad" about the bum crack.

 

[siahsargus]

I think male nudity should be outlawed, while female nudity is keenly encouraged.
You may call that a double standard, I call it beauty.

Your idea of beauty is a double standard. Your are so flamingly heterosexual it's not even funny. If you don't find anything even remotely aesthetically appealing besides the object of your sexual interest, you have issues.

I think a more practical approach to wearing clothing, one that would not feature nudity as taboo is in order. Also, yes, being stricter on female toplessness is a double standard, and just cultural baggage.

 

[Random berk]

This is probably a stupid suggestion, but suppose we look to the recent "Is provocative clothing an excuse for rape?" discussion? If women wearing provocative clothing do indeed make themselves more vulnerable to rape, then wouldn't walking around topless be even worse?

Shouldn't that be a decision left up to the individual? I mean, it seems counter to the "OMG PROTECTING EVERYONE FROM THEMSELVES" sentiment any sort of safety regulation brings up.

Here's the Utah State University from the Federal Commission on Sexual Assault and Anti Violence Information.

- A Federal Commission on Crime of Violence Study found that only
4.4% of all reported rapes involved provocative behavior on the part
of the victim. In murder cases 22% involved such behavior (as simple
as a glance).

- Most convicted rapists do not remember what their victims were wearing.

[footnote]http://www.usu.edu/saavi/pdf/myths_facts.pdf[/footnote]

Misconceptions like these about rape really fuck up attempts to help the victims and prevent it.

I never said it was a law that would make sense, but it wouldn't be the first law that had its roots in incredibly stupid ideas.

 

[gazumped]

In a lot of Muslim cultures, women's hair is seen to be a sexual thing so it's seen as taboo for them to have it uncovered. A lot of people in Western countries see Muslim women's hijab head coverings as a little odd, yet they'd be shocked at a woman having their chests uncovered.

Like women's hair, women's breasts aren't any more sexual than any other pretty part of them. The only part of the body which is intrinsically sexual are the SEX ORGANS, the entire rest of the body can be sexual if you're into that kind of thing, eyes are sexy, necks are sexy, MEN'S PECKS ARE DEFINITELY SEXY but those are allowed to be on show!

And what about flat chested girls? For countries where it's illegal for females to show their chests, are they not allowed to cool off like men, despite not having the fat deposits that people think are sexy?

And, yeah, I get the whole BOOBS WILL BE BORING IF WE SEE THEM ALL THE TIME argument, but that's basically saying WOMEN SHOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE SO WE CAN BE TURNED ON BY THEM MORE.

 

[Fetzenfisch]

Well i dont see a problem here. There are as much topless or nude women in adverts then men down here. And if you want to sunbath in the park, let em get some fresh air ladies. Luckily our society isnt so anal retentive about that topics.But as young teens get confused by nudity, young countries seem to do alike. You'll learn New Worlders.
It indeed would be something new to walk through the city centre and see a half naked women. But actually we are just not used to it.

In a lot of Muslim cultures, women's hair is seen to be a sexual thing so it's seen as taboo for them to have it uncovered. A lot of people in Western countries see Muslim women's hijab head coverings as a little odd, yet they'd be shocked at a woman having their chests uncovered.

Like women's hair, women's breasts aren't any more sexual than any other pretty part of them. The only part of the body which is intrinsically sexual are the SEX ORGANS, the entire rest of the body can be sexual if you're into that kind of thing, eyes are sexy, necks are sexy, MEN'S PECKS ARE DEFINITELY SEXY but those are allowed to be on show![...]
And, yeah, I get the whole BOOBS WILL BE BORING IF WE SEE THEM ALL THE TIME argument, but that's basically saying WOMEN SHOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE SO WE CAN BE TURNED ON BY THEM MORE.

I totally agree here.

 

[winginson]

Main reason is that womens breasts are far more sexualised than a mans chest. Exposed breasts are considered overtly sexual, an exposed chest is not. Men and women should be subject to the same law wise, but the law will be hard to change, and public opinion even harder whilst this opnion is still around.

Personally I'd rather both genders cover up unless its for a good reason.

 

[Chucker]

Context example: Anyone notice how you can have a poster of a woman in a Bikini and it's perfectly acceptable, but if the same woman was wearing a miniskirt it's somehow more raunchy?