Poll: Should The Elder Scrolls go back to using a text-based dialogue system like Morrowind's?
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I voted no, even though I loved the system in Morrowind. Such a system wouldn't work today; technology has progressed far too much to have text-based dialogue boxes. To say yes would be an answer coloured by nostalgia.
Morrowind's interface was clunky, the graphics were sub-par (in the un-modded vanilla game), the combat system was nothing short of awful and, as some people have commented, some NPCs would have many dialogue options, especially the Savant NPCs that talked about many different topics making it a confusing mess at times, with a lot of the topics being repeated from one NPC to the next. This was acceptable in 2002, but wouldn't work now
It would never compete against games of today, Bethesda has to go with the times to keep the series profitable and ultimately keep it going, however; I would say that if they intend to develop this fully voice acted game idea further, they need more voice actors and flesh out these NPCs so that they truly are unique. Skyrim is a VAST improvement over Oblivion and they are making great strides in a fully voice acted game world containing hundreds of NPCs, but there's more work to be done.
This doesn't mean going backwards and effectively damning the franchise due to obsolete game mechanics.
Morrowind's interface was clunky, the graphics were sub-par (in the un-modded vanilla game), the combat system was nothing short of awful and, as some people have commented, some NPCs would have many dialogue options, especially the Savant NPCs that talked about many different topics making it a confusing mess at times, with a lot of the topics being repeated from one NPC to the next. This was acceptable in 2002, but wouldn't work now
It would never compete against games of today, Bethesda has to go with the times to keep the series profitable and ultimately keep it going, however; I would say that if they intend to develop this fully voice acted game idea further, they need more voice actors and flesh out these NPCs so that they truly are unique. Skyrim is a VAST improvement over Oblivion and they are making great strides in a fully voice acted game world containing hundreds of NPCs, but there's more work to be done.
This doesn't mean going backwards and effectively damning the franchise due to obsolete game mechanics.
No, I like my voice acting. It?s not that I don?t like reading, I read allot of books and I?m one of those people who actually reads the books in elder scrolls games but voice acting is more much more immersive, engaging and voice helps characterise. It?s not just what they are saying its how they say it and I admit I get bored and find it harder to connect with a character if you?re just getting a lot of massive text dumps in a game. It's beeen ages since I?ve played I remember morrowind having terrible conversations system, walls of text and very little input from you. They could compromise, no voice acting for the player character I don?t mind and they could have voice acting for important bits but text for extra stuff if it?s really a problem.
^Fappy said:
This.
And get people that can write better dialogue. The games have such little real character to them.
You're in luck. There are two different mods to deal with this issue!DustyDrB said:
http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1928
http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=746
As for full voice-acting or not, I suppose it depends on the game. I really can't imagine, for example, Mass Effect, not having fully voiced dialog. OTOH, I also play Mount and Blade, which has practically no voicing.
i would be ALL FOR THAT. i mean, voice action is cool and all, but having a ton of characters who say a ton of things is preferable.
that is all.
that is all.
No. Hell no. A thousand times no.
I don't mind reading dialogue in RPGs. (I tend to read the subtitles in Skyrim anyway.) The problem is, the dialogue has to be good and engaging. For example, the dialogue in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door is... awesome, to say the least. Every character has a different way of speaking, there are several different dialects or accents, all the partners have different dialogue for every moment when a partner speaks, and nobody talks for too long at one time.
In Morrowind, everybody talks for days and days. (In my experience. Mind you, it's limited, as I got fed up with the combat quite early on. Somehow I couldn't hit two rats, even when crouching next to them with a pretty-facking-long sword, but they could rip me a new asshole.) I found myself compelled to click every highlighted word in a block of text, because I didn't want to miss something potentially important. That makes the game feel a lot longer than it should, especially since I'm a slow reader.
Everybody seemed to speak with the same... everything. It was almost worse than hearing two people with the same voice bicker in Oblivion. Nobody's speech seemed any different from the last person to speak.
And that's just no good.
I don't mind reading dialogue in RPGs. (I tend to read the subtitles in Skyrim anyway.) The problem is, the dialogue has to be good and engaging. For example, the dialogue in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door is... awesome, to say the least. Every character has a different way of speaking, there are several different dialects or accents, all the partners have different dialogue for every moment when a partner speaks, and nobody talks for too long at one time.
In Morrowind, everybody talks for days and days. (In my experience. Mind you, it's limited, as I got fed up with the combat quite early on. Somehow I couldn't hit two rats, even when crouching next to them with a pretty-facking-long sword, but they could rip me a new asshole.) I found myself compelled to click every highlighted word in a block of text, because I didn't want to miss something potentially important. That makes the game feel a lot longer than it should, especially since I'm a slow reader.
Everybody seemed to speak with the same... everything. It was almost worse than hearing two people with the same voice bicker in Oblivion. Nobody's speech seemed any different from the last person to speak.
And that's just no good.
Your argument can be summed up as 'Progress hasn't got there yet! Let's go backwards.'
Brilliant.
Brilliant.