Me too. Kid'ss shows should not show homosexuals, kid's shows should not show heterosexuals. Why mix sexuality into somethign that should not have anything to do with it at all? I don't have the lsightest against homosexuals, nor open homosexuals, I just don't think it's needed.SilentCom said:I don't think kid's shows should have any type of sexual connotations.
...kids' shows shouldn't have hetereosexuals or homosexuals? That leaves remarkably little room for...well...humans.Yopaz said:Me too. Kid'ss shows should not show homosexuals, kid's shows should not show heterosexuals. Why mix sexuality into somethign that should not have anything to do with it at all? I don't have the lsightest against homosexuals, nor open homosexuals, I just don't think it's needed.SilentCom said:I don't think kid's shows should have any type of sexual connotations.
Kid's shows is there to entertain kids, parents are there to educate kids.
Mickey Mouse should be there to make kids laugh, not to teach kids that it's wrong to steal, lie, murder or that homosexuality is wrong. Parents should do all of the above and not put the responsibility of raising their kids to the entertainment industry.
This right here, spot on pal.Snake Plissken said:There is a big difference between "should there be?" and "is it okay if there are?". Should there be, as in, is it imperative that there are? No. Is it okay if there are? Sure.
It shouldn't be imperative that we represent every culture and subculture in any sort of medium, but it shouldn't be regarded as a negative thing if we do.
Those kind of News should be broken by the parents, not cartoons.Bara_no_Hime said:LCP said:Hell no... It's too messed up... Sorry but teaching "being gay is an alright choice" Doesn't sit well with me.
Anyway why the hell is there sexuality in a kids show?BreakfastMan said:The far more important question, in my mind at least, is why kids shows need to be talking about any kind of sexuality in the first place.DarkRyter said:Neither hetero or homo.
Kids really don't give a fuck about sexuality. Just focus on the counting puppets and friendly dinosaurs.Gunner_Guardian said:Traditionally kids shows have almost no sexual themes what-so-ever and you could argue that all the characters are asexual in the context of the show.DuctTapeJedi said:I don't think that sexuality should be a part of kids' shows at all.
However, I remember back when 'Arthur' had an episode where they had a little girl that had two moms. That's fine, and should be treated as exactly what it is: equal.Why do all of you assume that this has anything to do with sexuality?Ensiferum said:I honestly don't think kid's shows need sexual connotations in general.
A wonderful example of a gay character, as noted by DuctTapeJedi, is when a character has "two moms" or "two dads". That's all we're talking about here - introducing the idea that gay people are a normal part of society.
As I mentioned above, I was already an adolescent and already struggling with being bisexual when I first learned that gay people even existed. If I had known that liking girls was okay (that there wasn't anything wrong with me) then I would have been far less freaked out by it at the time.
I was harmed by the lack of gay characters in children's programming. It isn't about sexuality, it's about saying that gay people exist. It's as simple as "two mommys".
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Ar... Are you oimplying that South Park and Family Guy are meant for kids?The_root_of_all_evil said:
Terrible idea. It would infect our children. All butch manly characters on kids TV. Definitely. Mehhhhhhh.
Hit point remains valid. Erny and Bert alone would have been enough to prove it.moretimethansense said:Ar... Are you oimplying that South Park and Family Guy are meant for kids?
Dude... What the fuck?
Even The Simpsons wasn't really intended for childeren origionally.
I agree for stuff like Teletubbies obviously, but by the time they're about 7 or 8 shows start have something where the boy has a crush on some girl and its played quite light-heartedly.SilentCom said:I don't think kid's shows should have any type of sexual connotations.
I think the main reasons people thought what we did was because there's only so many ways to indicate that a character is gay.Bara_no_Hime said:LCP said:Hell no... It's too messed up... Sorry but teaching "being gay is an alright choice" Doesn't sit well with me.
Anyway why the hell is there sexuality in a kids show?BreakfastMan said:The far more important question, in my mind at least, is why kids shows need to be talking about any kind of sexuality in the first place.DarkRyter said:Neither hetero or homo.
Kids really don't give a fuck about sexuality. Just focus on the counting puppets and friendly dinosaurs.Gunner_Guardian said:Traditionally kids shows have almost no sexual themes what-so-ever and you could argue that all the characters are asexual in the context of the show.DuctTapeJedi said:I don't think that sexuality should be a part of kids' shows at all.
However, I remember back when 'Arthur' had an episode where they had a little girl that had two moms. That's fine, and should be treated as exactly what it is: equal.Why do all of you assume that this has anything to do with sexuality?Ensiferum said:I honestly don't think kid's shows need sexual connotations in general.
A wonderful example of a gay character, as noted by DuctTapeJedi, is when a character has "two moms" or "two dads". That's all we're talking about here - introducing the idea that gay people are a normal part of society.
As I mentioned above, I was already an adolescent and already struggling with being bisexual when I first learned that gay people even existed. If I had known that liking girls was okay (that there wasn't anything wrong with me) then I would have been far less freaked out by it at the time.
I was harmed by the lack of gay characters in children's programming. It isn't about sexuality, it's about saying that gay people exist. It's as simple as "two mommys".
Edit: fixed a typo
Edit 2: And no one said "every" show - just some. Parents (or teenaged flirtations) are the best way to handle this - if neither exists in the show, then it doesn't matter. The issue is that, when there are parents or flirtations, they are always hetero.
I was actually going to post this myself when I saw a couple others had already done it. I'm not going to go into the "why" because that would be a topic in and of itself (and likely not a pleasant one), but I agree completely. There is no reason here to assume that just because the characters are homosexual/bisexual that there needs to be any sex involved at all. Quite frankly, this reminds me of the Cosby show.Bara_no_Hime said:Why do all of you assume that this has anything to do with sexuality?
A wonderful example of a gay character, as noted by DuctTapeJedi, is when a character has "two moms" or "two dads". That's all we're talking about here - introducing the idea that gay people are a normal part of society.
But aren't you kind of.. recruiting kids to be homosexual if you confront them with it too much? I'm sorry if it sounds crude but I don't think that our current situation represses homosexuality, aside from bullying and such ofcourse. In fact, the people I know who are homosexual have known all their lives, without kids shows telling them that it's an option.Bara_no_Hime said:This. Well said.interspark said:this has been bothering me for a while, we have a community that is in a largely public agreement that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, and yet, in kid's shows you'll often see male and female characters who are attracted to one another but never those of the same sex? and you can say "kids wont understand that" but i know for a fact that when i have kids, i certainly won't let them grow up under the delusion that only people of opposite genders can fall in love and get married!
so what are your opinions?
When I was growing up, I had no idea that being gay was even an option. No one told me it was even possible. Which really screwed up things for a while when it turned out I was bisexual - imagine how confusing that was when I had no idea that gay people existed?
Of course, I grew up in the 80s, before the Internet. Oh, how having the internet would have helped me not spend years wondering what was wrong with me before I found out that liking other girls wasn't strange at all.
The sad thing is, my parents aren't even homophobes - they have no problem with gay people, and are generally okay with my personal gay-ness. But they didn't think it was an appropriate topic for children. See? This is why children need to know about all human relationships (not how they work, but that they exist) when they're still children.