Poll: So... Diablo 3 or Torchlight 2?

[Boris Goodenough]

I never actually got round to LoD. What did it add?

I am going to be super biased and say everything.
Socketed items, runes, long 4'th act and a few other things liek higher res that made it far more interesting to play.

Solve media: follow me

 

[Boris Goodenough]

God it's been so long since I played D2. I'm actually considering buying the collectors edition of D3 when it's back in stock somewhere, it comes with a USB copy of LoD. Also an art book. Kinda addicted to those.

If you can get CE at a decent price it is worth it *looks at his new USB skull and smiles*.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

The only place it's in stock at the minute is Amazon. And it's £180 there for some reason.

Is the artbook good? That'll be the kicker for me when I find it at an affordable price somewhere?

The artbook felt more organized than SC2s, as it was set up after characters, acts, and "factions", rather than just factions as in SC2.
Same quality and detail, no paper cover for the hardback though, but it does seem a little thicker.
And yes it had pretty drawings that made me smile.

 

[Richardplex]

Torchlight 2, I'll play it as a coop game.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

Well I guess it's settled then.

OFF TO SCOUR THE INTERNET!

Also don't smell the skull when you take it out of its case (or the case for that matter), they smell like a chemical dump.

Also if you want I cam PM you some pictures of it, as a preview. Any requests?

 

[Xeridian Darkmoon]

I guess you are unaware that the Developers of Torchlight II are the primary people who made Diablo II? Also the fact you haven't played the first 2 Diablo games and say story is a pro yet you know nothing about the Lore at the moment. After D3's launch debacle, I'd say you made the wrong choice... I played D3 beta and it was boring and didn't have the flare of D2 or D2:LOD.

 

[Rastien]

I guess you are unaware that the Developers of Torchlight II are the primary people who made Diablo II? Also the fact you haven't played the first 2 Diablo games and say story is a pro yet you know nothing about the Lore at the moment. After D3's launch debacle, I'd say you made the wrong choice... I played D3 beta and it was boring and didn't have the flare of D2 or D2:LOD.

Im sat playing diablo 3 right now, played torchlight, diablo 1 and diablo 2 LOD and i plan to play torchlight 2, my point?

Diablo 3 is a good game and alota fun =) it builds on alot from the beta, blazed past leoric in around 40 mins and simply loving it now ^^ just got to act 2.

 

[Chimichanga]

Neither - Path of Exile.

Diablo 3 offended me too much.

 

[Axyun]

Diablo 3 for me.

I loved and finished Diablo 1 and 2 multiple times. Torchlight 1 was alright but I got bored with the game and never bothered to finish it. It lacked substance and the skill implementations felt like they weren't thought through very well. I'll keep a cautious eye on TL2 but I won't get it until the Steam $5 winter sale if at all.

 

[Elamdri]

I guess you are unaware that the Developers of Torchlight II are the primary people who made Diablo II? Also the fact you haven't played the first 2 Diablo games and say story is a pro yet you know nothing about the Lore at the moment. After D3's launch debacle, I'd say you made the wrong choice... I played D3 beta and it was boring and didn't have the flare of D2 or D2:LOD.

At least Diablo has a soul, unlike Torchlight, which is some sort of hollowman-esque shadow of a dungeon crawler.

 

[Cavan]

At least Diablo has a soul, unlike Torchlight, which is some sort of hollowman-esque shadow of a dungeon crawler.

At least X has a *vague quality designed to invoke meaningless positive connotation*, unlike Y, which is some sort of *equally vague and tangentially correlatory negative term* of Z genre.

That's some sort of argument you have there (I apologise for getting caught up in my own use of language, but this post annoyed me for having zero actual discussion value, so therefore I'm allowed to be a smartarse)

On topic:

I pre-ordered torchlight 2 for a few reasons (I think I may have responded already but in case I haven't i'l try to add some repeated boring discussion):
1. The real money auction house is going to devalue virtual gold and items, it always does. People will still sell gold illegally, because they will still be able to make a profit and undercut auction house fees, and all people will get from it is no mod support and always on DRM (and the choice of paying inflated virtual money values or real money, considering that it's more than a full priced PC game this is just money grubbing on a game that was ALWAYS going to sell very well).
Even if I am not going to use the auction house, for either in game or real money transactions this 'is' going to affect me.
2. Battle net is terrible, in my opinion, and I hate using it.
3. I bought a 4 pack of torchlight 2 for roughly the same cost as diablo 3 would have been at release now, so I can guarantee people interested and able to play it.
4. I don't like how forced the skill choices are, I like the rune system but I dislike how rigid they've made your choice of what you can use at any one time.
5. I dislike some of the things they've taken out for no reason, mana potions, scrolls, etc.

I will probably pick it up when I have nothing else to play and it's down to the £10-15 range or has an expansion out that people who know my tastes tell me is THE BEST THING EVER.

 

[Elamdri]

At least Diablo has a soul, unlike Torchlight, which is some sort of hollowman-esque shadow of a dungeon crawler.

At least X has a *vague quality designed to invoke meaningless positive connotation*, unlike Y, which is some sort of *equally vague and tangentially correlatory negative term* of Z genre.

That's some sort of argument you have there (I apologise for getting caught up in my own use of language, but this post annoyed me for having zero actual discussion value, so therefore I'm allowed to be a smartarse)

Let me put it to you this way. Torchlight is boring. I have no clue what is going on in the world. The characters do not draw my attention. Christ, I quit playing when I was on like level 16 and I still don't know the name of the main protagonist chick. I don't know who the villain is, what his problem is, or why I should really care.

Meanwhile, in Diablo I've just finished my Trial run and I know who the main characters are, I have a friend who follows me around and who talks to my character from time to time during the dungeon crawl, which makes it feel more engaging. I know the names of a lot of the characters in town, Deckard Cain, Leah, Eamon, my hireling Kormac. I know that a meteor has hit the church in old Tristram and it has awoken the Skeleton King Leoric who was once a good king before being corrupted by Diablo. I know that the meteor is one of the signs of the end of days and we need to learn more if we are to defeat Diablo.

I mean, that's it really. Torchlight lacks that je ne sais quoi that Diablo has. That's why eventually I'll pick up Diablo 3 and not Torchlight 2.

 

[Cavan]

Let me put it to you this way. Torchlight is boring. I have no clue what is going on in the world. The characters do not draw my attention. Christ, I quit playing when I was on like level 16 and I still don't know the name of the main protagonist chick. I don't know who the villain is, what his problem is, or why I should really care.

Meanwhile, in Diablo I've just finished my Trial run and I know who the main characters are, I have a friend who follows me around and who talks to my character from time to time during the dungeon crawl, which makes it feel more engaging. I know the names of a lot of the characters in town, Deckard Cain, Leah, Eamon, my hireling Kormac. I know that a meteor has hit the church in old Tristram and it has awoken the Skeleton King Leoric who was once a good king before being corrupted by Diablo. I know that the meteor is one of the signs of the end of days and we need to learn more if we are to defeat Diablo.

I mean, that's it really. Torchlight lacks that je ne sais quoi that Diablo has. That's why eventually I'll pick up Diablo 3 and not Torchlight 2.

Again:
'I do not know the story' is not an argument.
"The characters do not draw my attention" (without giving a reason), is not an argument.
"I know who the main characters are" is not in any way an argument.
"It lacks that je ne sais quoi" is far and away not even a valid point.

The ONLY, and I do mean only point you make is that you find having a companion who talks to you more engaging than a pet, fair enough that that is your preference. The rest may as well have not been said.

You haven't said 'why' you prefer Diablo 3 in any coherent sense, and that's okay, you are allowed to like things without reason or be unable to put those reasons into words. However, when you come and act like what you say is meaningful without backing it up you just look silly.

 

[KefkaCultist]

Well I'd first like to point out my bias: I never played Torchlight and I'm a pretty big fan of Diablo.

Now with that out of the way, I say Diablo 3 because I'm having way too much fun with it. Already have about 12 hours on it lol.

 

[Elamdri]

Let me put it to you this way. Torchlight is boring. I have no clue what is going on in the world. The characters do not draw my attention. Christ, I quit playing when I was on like level 16 and I still don't know the name of the main protagonist chick. I don't know who the villain is, what his problem is, or why I should really care.

Meanwhile, in Diablo I've just finished my Trial run and I know who the main characters are, I have a friend who follows me around and who talks to my character from time to time during the dungeon crawl, which makes it feel more engaging. I know the names of a lot of the characters in town, Deckard Cain, Leah, Eamon, my hireling Kormac. I know that a meteor has hit the church in old Tristram and it has awoken the Skeleton King Leoric who was once a good king before being corrupted by Diablo. I know that the meteor is one of the signs of the end of days and we need to learn more if we are to defeat Diablo.

I mean, that's it really. Torchlight lacks that je ne sais quoi that Diablo has. That's why eventually I'll pick up Diablo 3 and not Torchlight 2.

Again:
'I do not know the story' is not an argument.
"The characters do not draw my attention" (without giving a reason), is not an argument.
"I know who the main characters are" is not in any way an argument.
"It lacks that je ne sais quoi" is far and away not even a valid point.

The ONLY, and I do mean only point you make is that you find having a companion who talks to you more engaging than a pet, fair enough that that is your preference. The rest may as well have not been said.

You haven't said 'why' you prefer Diablo 3 in any coherent sense, and that's okay, you are allowed to like things without reason or be unable to put those reasons into words. However, when you come and act like what you say is meaningful without backing it up you just look silly.

I just said that it lacks je ne sais quoi. That literally means that I can't put my finger on what it is, but it's missing something.

 

[ProtonGuy]

Get Torchlight it will actually, you know, work. By the time they get Diablo III stable you'll have gotten a few solid play throughs done with Torchlight.

 

[hino77]

As i already baught Diablo 3 and am playing it right now(it`s minimized),i have to go with answer number 1.The first Torchlight bored me to tears, but i will check the sequel eventualy,hope they made it more fun.Ok, going back to Diablo,hellspawn dont kill them selves you know!

 

[viranimus]

Id say wait for torchlight 2. You get all the gameplay of D3 and more, Plus the added advantage of not setting a bad precedent for the industry and allowing Blizzard to make an unjustified money printing machine. PLUS your helping a much smaller company who would appreciate it more. So... If you like games, you wont buy diablo 3 . Just my opinion, but lets see what happens.

 

[Axyun]

In Diablo 2, there were:

2 types of Amazon (Bow, Jav)
2 types of Assassin (Martial Arts, Trap)
4 types of Paladin (Smite, Zeal, Might/Zeal, Hammer)
3 types of Sorc (Fire, Ice, Lighting, and a dozen sub-types, depending which spells you like)
3 types of Necro (Bone, Summon, Poison)
3 types of Barbarian (Whirlwind, Berserk, Frenzy)
3 types of Druid (Fire, Wind, Transform)

And lesser types for those who like to mix and match.

In D3, there is ONE AND EXACTLY ONE, build for every character. Sure you can change the animation for a certain attack, but in the end, the skill tree is set to be completely linear and idiot-proof. Which speaks to me as "we're tired of new players complaining about being confused, let's dumb it down as far as we can legally get away with".

Quit spreading misinformation. D3 just came out and people are still experimenting with builds. The go-to builds for each class have not been discovered yet.

Second, unlike D2 where most skills were skipped (only 1 point invested in them) and all skill points ere dumped into 2-4 skills at most, D3 forces all skills to be equally valuable which theoretically opens up more builds. Whether that is true or not has yet to be seen since everyone is still a D3 noob.

Finally, while skills are unlocked in sequence as you level, once you hit 60 and unlock everything, you are free to arrange your skills and runes in any order you please. And you have even more flexibility by turning Elective Mode on.

Torchlight 2 will never reach the level of build customization D3 enables if they stick to traditional dependency-based skill trees.

 

[kingthrall]

Sacred 2 Is better than the lot of these