Poll: So, you're the last man (woman) on Earth, left with everyone of the opposite sex...

[DefunctTheory]

Can't it be both? Terrifying sexy harem dystopia? When I get around to forming a band, I'm total naming it that. This isn't just a straight guy fantasy either. I have seen things to convince me that there are some straight women who rather like this fantasy too with the genders reversed. I imagine the reality of it would be terrifying though, especially for a woman.

A lot of people don't actually want their "fantasies" to come true. And I seriously doubt many women dream of being forcibly impregnated over and over.

Presumably he means the women who have a pregnancy fetish, at which point 'forced' is no longer part of the equation.

I mean, there are some women who just like being pregnant. Like... maybe four women? Total?

 

[Phasmal]

Can't it be both? Terrifying sexy harem dystopia? When I get around to forming a band, I'm total naming it that. This isn't just a straight guy fantasy either. I have seen things to convince me that there are some straight women who rather like this fantasy too with the genders reversed. I imagine the reality of it would be terrifying though, especially for a woman.

A lot of people don't actually want their "fantasies" to come true. And I seriously doubt many women dream of being forcibly impregnated over and over.

Presumably he means the women who have a pregnancy fetish, at which point 'forced' is no longer part of the equation.

I mean, there are some women who just like being pregnant. Like... maybe four women? Total?

Yeah but even those who have a "pregnancy fetish" probably still wouldn't want their fantasy to be a reality. You have to be pregnant for a long-ass time and doing it over and over, it'd stop being sexy real fast, even for that tiny minority of women.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

Can't it be both? Terrifying sexy harem dystopia? When I get around to forming a band, I'm total naming it that. This isn't just a straight guy fantasy either. I have seen things to convince me that there are some straight women who rather like this fantasy too with the genders reversed. I imagine the reality of it would be terrifying though, especially for a woman.

A lot of people don't actually want their "fantasies" to come true. And I seriously doubt many women dream of being forcibly impregnated over and over.

Presumably he means the women who have a pregnancy fetish, at which point 'forced' is no longer part of the equation.

I mean, there are some women who just like being pregnant. Like... maybe four women? Total?

Yeah but even those who have a "pregnancy fetish" probably still wouldn't want their fantasy to be a reality. You have to be pregnant for a long-ass time and doing it over and over, it'd stop being sexy real fast, even for that tiny minority of women.

I actually do recall reading about one woman who really did like being pregnant. So much so that she was on here... 7th kid? I think it was seven. And she was really pumping them out - She basically got pregnant they exact day that is was possible to do so after recovering from the previous pregnancy. They interviewed her and she was very much into the being prego thing. Disturbingly so, I think.

But, like I said, I'd think that would be a pretty weird thing. And absurdly rare. Perhaps the rarest 'fetish.'

 

[the December King]

I understand that I'll never understand what it's like to be pregnant, let alone pregnant for 16 or some years, let alone having no say in the matter. But, provided that all parties understood the dire nature of the situation at hand ( and I know it might be naive of me), but I'd like to think that the last woman would get (or at least be given the option) to choose her suitors, be kept like a queen, never want for any material goods, have droves of male servants for anything she needs, etc. And I would also hope that, after she served the race through to menopause, she would still be given the incredible amount of respect and admiration she would have rightfully earned as the Mother of the next generation and savior of the race.

Speaking as a woman, ew. No. Yikes. Squick.

Death first, bye bye humanity, it was nice knowing you.

Fair crop, Phasmal- I certainly can't see it as erotic or an enjoyable state. Making the most of a horrible situation, was more what I was trying to imply.

But as LifeCharacter pointed out, you probably won't be given much time to off yourself before you're deemed selfish and made into an incubator.

 

[Erttheking]

The population of the world would go from 7 billion to 3.5 billion. As a direct result of so many people dying, with the added problem of there being male dominated jobs, there would be famine, doubly so for countries that rely heavily on imported food like China, communication black outs, power failures, wars as nations that allowed women in the military and politics conquer nations that don't, nuclear reactors would melt down with no one to maintain them, the world's economy would be destroyed beyond repair, there would be riots, very few doctors, people would most likely be resorting to stealing and murder out of desperation, in the chaos I wouldn't put it past some moron to launch a nuke or two and when everything settles down it would be a miracle if more than one billion humans were still alive.

What'd happen to me? I'd die in the chaos, and assuming I somehow survived I'd be assassinated by religious nutjobs who thought that men dying is God's will and they he missed a spot ...sorry, did I ruin everyone's sexual fantasy with the harshness of what 3.5 billion people dying actually means for the world? Because if I were in this situation, sex would be the last thing on my mind!

 

[Gorrath]

I understand that I'll never understand what it's like to be pregnant, let alone pregnant for 16 or some years, let alone having no say in the matter. But, provided that all parties understood the dire nature of the situation at hand ( and I know it might be naive of me), but I'd like to think that the last woman would get (or at least be given the option) to choose her suitors, be kept like a queen, never want for any material goods, have droves of male servants for anything she needs, etc. And I would also hope that, after she served the race through to menopause, she would still be given the incredible amount of respect and admiration she would have rightfully earned as the Mother of the next generation and savior of the race.

Speaking as a woman, ew. No. Yikes. Squick.

Death first, bye bye humanity, it was nice knowing you.

Can't it be both? Terrifying sexy harem dystopia? When I get around to forming a band, I'm total naming it that. This isn't just a straight guy fantasy either. I have seen things to convince me that there are some straight women who rather like this fantasy too with the genders reversed. I imagine the reality of it would be terrifying though, especially for a woman.

A lot of people don't actually want their "fantasies" to come true. And I seriously doubt many women dream of being forcibly impregnated over and over.

Well of course, that's why it's fantasy and why I mentioned that the reality of it would be rather terrifying, especially for a woman. I doubt anyone would actually want that to happen. As for how many women have fantasies about it, well, I know of no scientific research on the subject so I can't speak to real numbers but I can say as someone who's written reams of erotica it's anything but a rare fetish. When one writes erotica for the masses one may spend some time looking in places where people list their preferred kinks. From that examination, I feel confident in saying that a large number of people identifying as women quite like the fantasy. Having spent class time on the psychology of alternative and taboo sexuality at university, I have some understanding of why this particular fetish is comparatively common too. I realize you're probably not going to run out and try to verify any of this of course, nor would I expect you to, I'm just giving my observations as someone who's spent significant time on these sorts of subjects. I'm sure all of that makes me come off as kind of a weirdo. As a question in return, why do you doubt it's a common fantasy?

 

[Lightknight]

I understand that I'll never understand what it's like to be pregnant, let alone pregnant for 16 or some years, let alone having no say in the matter. But, provided that all parties understood the dire nature of the situation at hand ( and I know it might be naive of me), but I'd like to think that the last woman would get (or at least be given the option) to choose her suitors, be kept like a queen, never want for any material goods, have droves of male servants for anything she needs, etc. And I would also hope that, after she served the race through to menopause, she would still be given the incredible amount of respect and admiration she would have rightfully earned as the Mother of the next generation and savior of the race.

Speaking as a woman, ew. No. Yikes. Squick.

Death first, bye bye humanity, it was nice knowing you.

In this scenario you are supposed to be a paragon. Imagine in this scenario you were both heroic and actually wanted to save the human race above your own needs.

 

[Phasmal]

As a question in return, why do you doubt it's a common fantasy?

My source: being a human woman.
Most women aren't thrilled about the whole 'childbirth' thing. Trust me, it's been a source of conversation between me and other women since we found out how babies come into the world, and it's not very many people's idea of a good time.

EDIT: I mean, if you're that convinced that being knocked up against your will is a "common" fantasy for women, I'm not gonna argue the point, I'll just agree to disagree.

Speaking as a woman, ew. No. Yikes. Squick.

Death first, bye bye humanity, it was nice knowing you.

In this scenario you are supposed to be a paragon. Imagine in this scenario you were both heroic and actually wanted to save the human race above your own needs.

I didn't see that in the thread, I just saw 'What would you do?'. Also, way to make not wanting to be a human incubator sound like a selfish choice. Fuck humanity. If we're that far gone that only me 'n' my magic uterus can save us, well, we're gone anyway. Besides, then they'll write about what a selfish ***** I was to destroy humanity and one day I'll be rediscovered as "Phasmal, destroyer of Earth, non-sharer of womb" by aliens. That sounds pretty sweet to me.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Fuck humanity. If we're that far gone that only me 'n' my magic uterus can save us, well, we're gone anyway.

That sounds so badass, like Dr. Henry Killinger and his Magic Murder Bag.

 

[Phasmal]

Fuck humanity. If we're that far gone that only me 'n' my magic uterus can save us, well, we're gone anyway.

That sounds so badass, like Dr. Henry Killinger and his Magic Murder Bag.

Alright, that settles it, that's my new nickname for my uterus.
It's sometimes appropriate.

Spoiler: If ya know what I mean

Spoiler: TW for some of you guys I know you don't like this stuff I warned you- blood

Hahahahaahahh

 

[hermes]

Besides the implications others have pointed out (the most prominent one being that you are not wanted as a sex machine, you are wanted as a semen factory, so everything outside of it is just colateral), I would also like to point out it is not very sustainable as a way to keep the specie alive. If every child in a generation comes from a single father/mother, the amount of inbreeding would be off the charts. On the second generation, you would be breading half-brothers. Genetically speaking, humans would be pretty much extinct if it reaches that point.

Wiping out half the population would kick the guts out of society. It'd not be a sexy place to be. No government, no organisation, mass panic, no essential services and piles of corpses everywhere.

Pff, I think you're over-estimating female propensity for chaos. Oh sure, it might be panic and tribalism at first, but without the thirst for war and violence of the other half of the population, Tribes and factions just turn into book clubs and lesbian heaven.

Mehh... I am South American, so let me give you an advice, if you truly think faults like bloodlust, corruption and greed are elements exclusively found in leaders of the XY configuration, and female leaders would be more humane, rational and caring for some reason, you are in for a surprise...

 

[Gorrath]

As a question in return, why do you doubt it's a common fantasy?

My source: being a human woman.
Most women aren't thrilled about the whole 'childbirth' thing. Trust me, it's been a source of conversation between me and other women since we found out how babies come into the world, and it's not very many people's idea of a good time.

That you are a human woman that lacks a fetish for that particular fantasy doesn't really say much. I mean, I'm not into being dommed by a strange woman at a sex club and neither are any of my friends but it'd be rather silly of me to therefore conclude that it's not something a large number of men are into. I wouldn't cite my own fetishistic preferences as evidence that any fetish is or is not represented in that great mass that is everyone who isn't me and I wouldn't assume that, even if I knew for a fact that I knew all of my friend's fetishes for certain, that a group that small could possibly be representative either and that's not even addressing that you seem to be conflating casual conversation about actual pregnancy with fantasy.

Surely if I asked all my friends what they thought of My Little Pony and Sonic the Hedgehog porn, I'm sure that I'd get a lot of negative responses. But therefore concluding that there wasn't a huge number of people into these things would be quite a mistake on my part.

 

[ThatOtherGirl]

As a question in return, why do you doubt it's a common fantasy?

First, gonna second Phasmal here, even women who do want to be pregnant generally don't actually want to be pregnant, they want to carry and raise a child, maybe a few children. There are a few, very very few, women who actively enjoy being pregnant for the sake of it, but they are quite rare.

Second, yes there are women out there with the fantasy. The key idea here is that it is a fantasy, and a sexual fantasy at that. Many sexual fantasies are things the person would never, ever actually want to happen to them.

I mean, I would love to carry and give birth to a child, even though it is not an option for me personally. But forced impregnation? That would be terrible. And it would have to be forced because there is no way I would ever consent to the scenario. Not even to save the human race, and besides the gene pool would be way too shallow for the human race to survive. I would do everything in my power to kill myself rather than go through with it. On the other hand, there is an alternate solution I would accept. I would dedicate my body to science.

I am willing to die to ensure the survival of the human race, just not endure that for the rest of my life. Put me in a medical coma, then kill the non vital parts of my brain in such a way that my body is not damaged. My body is, after all, the only important part of me in this scenario, and it has been demonstrated that a brain dead woman can carry a baby from the early weeks of pregnancy all the way to term and the baby will be perfectly fine. I would be legally dead, and dead in every way that matters to me, and they can use my brain dead body in whatever way will be most beneficial to the human race.

Basically, if you need my body to save the human race, I can deal with that. But for the love of god kill me first.

OP: Personally, I would hate the scenario. I am bi in that there are some men I would have sex with and certainly enjoy it, but I lean heavily towards women. So with all the women wiped out... that would suck hard.

I think the scenario only works for straight and maybe bi men when it is the men who have been wiped out, and even then it works best as simply a low ratio, like 1 man for each 9 women. The real fantasy there is that being comparatively rare the value of any man as a partner is significantly higher than they might otherwise be. It is just a round about being desirable fantasy, one that involves changing the world instead of yourself, with a built in many partners aspect. This doesn't work for women due to the above discussion. If every woman had to have 10 genetically diverse babies to keep the world going it would suck.

But anyway, with simply a low ration way no one man carries a major burden of propagating the species. In order to keep population growth neutral each man would have to have 10 genetically diverse children, which is entirely doable in a very short time span by normal means if that man has multiple partners, and easily done if we take into account modern medicine and artificial insemination. It would place virtually no burden on the men and vastly increase their desirability as a partner by the law of supply and demand, plus we would likely see a major shift in values in such a way that a man sleeping around would be even more ok than it is now.

On the other hand, all major political power would shift to women. We would make up 9 out of 10 of the population in everything, and that translates to all the power everywhere. Men would be seen as rarer and possibly more valuable, but that value would not be inherent to them as a person, just merely value as a rare commodity - value as an object, not a person.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Spoiler: Ew, no

I imagine this is more of a straight-guy fantasy, because it really really would not work out for anyone else. Be used as a baby oven by a bunch of asshole dudes? I'd rather literally jump off a bridge. So I guess that's my answer. It's not sexy.

Spoiler: Me

Wiping out half the population would kick the guts out of society. It'd not be a sexy place to be. No government, no organisation, mass panic, no essential services and piles of corpses everywhere.

Also this. This is less "sexy harem situation" and more "terrifying dystopia".

Can't it be both? Terrifying sexy harem dystopia? When I get around to forming a band, I'm total naming it that. This isn't just a straight guy fantasy either. I have seen things to convince me that there are some straight women who rather like this fantasy too with the genders reversed. I imagine the reality of it would be terrifying though, especially for a woman.

Of course it is an extremely common fantasy, however yes, fantasies are not reality and reality would be the opposite of what they formerly used as masturbation material. LOL

Yes you are correct, it is " both". The good news is they can fertilize eggs without having imprison and the torture the last of either sex.

 

[Lightknight]

Speaking as a woman, ew. No. Yikes. Squick.

Death first, bye bye humanity, it was nice knowing you.

In this scenario you are supposed to be a paragon. Imagine in this scenario you were both heroic and actually wanted to save the human race above your own needs.

I didn't see that in the thread, I just saw 'What would you do?'. Also, way to make not wanting to be a human incubator sound like a selfish choice. Fuck humanity. If we're that far gone that only me 'n' my magic uterus can save us, well, we're gone anyway. Besides, then they'll write about what a selfish ***** I was to destroy humanity and one day I'll be rediscovered as "Phasmal, destroyer of Earth, non-sharer of womb" by aliens. That sounds pretty sweet to me.

Oh, did I make it sound like not being willing to sacrifice oneself for the entire human race is selfish? Are... are you trying to make me feel feelings about pointing that fact out? Yes, if there's something you can do to save the entirety of the human race and you decide not to because you enjoy your life so much in other ways then it is a selfish action or inaction.

Do you believe that any single person's life is more valuable than the continuation of all human life?

Don't get me wrong, we're not debating pro-choice or women's rights here. We're debating having the ability to save an entire species of sentient beings and not doing so. I mean, I guess you could also just agree to octomom it one time and punt the problem down the field at the expense of nine months of your life. Would even that be agreeable to you?

 

[Gorrath]

As a question in return, why do you doubt it's a common fantasy?

First, gonna second Phasmal here, even women who do want to be pregnant generally don't actually want to be pregnant, they want to carry and raise a child, maybe a few children. There are a few, very very few, women who actively enjoy being pregnant for the sake of it, but they are quite rare.

Second, yes there are women out there with the fantasy. The key idea here is that it is a fantasy, and a sexual fantasy at that. Many sexual fantasies are things the person would never, ever actually want to happen to them.

I admit to being a bit baffled here. In my posts I have made it clear that there's a distinction between fantasy and reality with regard to this as far as it being a sexual fetish/fantasy. Hell, in the line you quoted from me I even used the word fantasy to denote that I was talking about fantasy. I agree withe everything you say above, as evidenced by the fact that I've said basically all of it myself in this thread already.

I mean, I would love to carry and give birth to a child, even though it is not an option for me personally. But forced impregnation? That would be terrible. And it would have to be forced because there is no way I would ever consent to the scenario. Not even to save the human race, and besides the gene pool would be way too shallow for the human race to survive. I would do everything in my power to kill myself rather than go through with it. On the other hand, there is an alternate solution I would accept. I would dedicate my body to science.

Of course, which is why I've said that if this were a real scenario, it would be terrifying. I said that right in my first post I believe. Forced impregnation as a sexual fetish and fantasy is something a good number of women have indicated they find exciting though. My source for this being the mountain of profiles detailing people's preferred sexual fetishes that I've read through while researching for writing erotica. Forced sex is a very very common fetish people of both genders like as well but that doesn't mean people want to be raped or want to be rapists.

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I am willing to die to ensure the survival of the human race, just not endure that for the rest of my life. Put me in a medical coma, then kill the non vital parts of my brain in such a way that my body is not damaged. My body is, after all, the only important part of me in this scenario, and it has been demonstrated that a brain dead woman can carry a baby from the early weeks of pregnancy all the way to term and the baby will be perfectly fine. I would be legally dead, and dead in every way that matters to me, and they can use my brain dead body in whatever way will be most beneficial to the human race.

Basically, if you need my body to save the human race, I can deal with that. But for the love of god kill me first.[/quote]

Right, I can understand all of that and think that the reality would, as I've said, be terrifying. All I argued was that the scenario isn't just a straight male fantasy. I don't think it is because I've looked into all this at some length and found that forced impregnation, and the "few or one woman left" type scenario is a relatively common fantasy I've come across during this study. My own work isn't scientific, to be sure, and I"m not claiming it is, I merely wondered why she thought this wasn't a common sexual fantasy for women when my own study has indicated that it very much is. Hell, the "Lots of men, few/one woman" scenario is one of the most common and most tame I've encountered in this looking around I've done.

I've seen this fetish go both ways for both genders and I am of the opinion that it's got a lot to do with being the center of sexual attention, which is itself understandably common. The pro-creation part of it probably comes from a lot of people's biological drive expressing itself in fantasy. This is merely my own musings having spent some time studying fetishism and the psychology of taboo and alternative sex. I am not claiming any of this as if I'm an expert with an exhaustive study to cite, just as someone who's looked into it and been surprised by what I've seen.

I hope that clarifies my position. Cheers!

 

[Lightknight]

As a question in return, why do you doubt it's a common fantasy?

My source: being a human woman.
Most women aren't thrilled about the whole 'childbirth' thing. Trust me, it's been a source of conversation between me and other women since we found out how babies come into the world, and it's not very many people's idea of a good time.

That you are a human woman that lacks a fetish for that particular fantasy doesn't really say much. I mean, I'm not into being dommed by a strange woman at a sex club and neither are any of my friends but it'd be rather silly of me to therefore conclude that it's not something a large number of men are into. I wouldn't cite my own fetishistic preferences as evidence that any fetish is or is not represented in that great mass that is everyone who isn't me and I wouldn't assume that, even if I knew for a fact that I knew all of my friend's fetishes for certain, that a group that small could possibly be representative either and that's not even addressing that you seem to be conflating casual conversation about actual pregnancy with fantasy.

Surely if I asked all my friends what they thought of My Little Pony and Sonic the Hedgehog porn, I'm sure that I'd get a lot of negative responses. But therefore concluding that there wasn't a huge number of people into these things would be quite a mistake on my part.

It's a common fantasy for women to be fawned over by multiple men and have total control over the relationship. It's not a common fantasy to be pregnant every year for the remainder of their fertile years.

Make no mistake, this would be a huge freaking sacrifice for female protagonists and a painless if not entirely enjoyable job for the males (again, unless they lived in the asshole world that is Y the last man where women all become massive asshole men for some reason) who get all the fun and none of the consequences in this scenario.

 

[Gorrath]

Spoiler: Ew, no

I imagine this is more of a straight-guy fantasy, because it really really would not work out for anyone else. Be used as a baby oven by a bunch of asshole dudes? I'd rather literally jump off a bridge. So I guess that's my answer. It's not sexy.

Spoiler: Me

Wiping out half the population would kick the guts out of society. It'd not be a sexy place to be. No government, no organisation, mass panic, no essential services and piles of corpses everywhere.

Also this. This is less "sexy harem situation" and more "terrifying dystopia".

Can't it be both? Terrifying sexy harem dystopia? When I get around to forming a band, I'm total naming it that. This isn't just a straight guy fantasy either. I have seen things to convince me that there are some straight women who rather like this fantasy too with the genders reversed. I imagine the reality of it would be terrifying though, especially for a woman.

Of course it is an extremely common fantasy, however yes, fantasies are not reality and reality would be the opposite of what they formerly used as masturbation material. LOL

Yes you are correct, it is " both". The good news is they can fertilize eggs without having imprison and the torture the last of either sex.

Oh I know it can, that bit was me just being obtuse for humorous effect. Still naming that band Terrifying Sexy Harem Dystopia.

 

[Gorrath]

As a question in return, why do you doubt it's a common fantasy?

My source: being a human woman.
Most women aren't thrilled about the whole 'childbirth' thing. Trust me, it's been a source of conversation between me and other women since we found out how babies come into the world, and it's not very many people's idea of a good time.

That you are a human woman that lacks a fetish for that particular fantasy doesn't really say much. I mean, I'm not into being dommed by a strange woman at a sex club and neither are any of my friends but it'd be rather silly of me to therefore conclude that it's not something a large number of men are into. I wouldn't cite my own fetishistic preferences as evidence that any fetish is or is not represented in that great mass that is everyone who isn't me and I wouldn't assume that, even if I knew for a fact that I knew all of my friend's fetishes for certain, that a group that small could possibly be representative either and that's not even addressing that you seem to be conflating casual conversation about actual pregnancy with fantasy.

Surely if I asked all my friends what they thought of My Little Pony and Sonic the Hedgehog porn, I'm sure that I'd get a lot of negative responses. But therefore concluding that there wasn't a huge number of people into these things would be quite a mistake on my part.

It's a common fantasy for women to be fawned over by multiple men and have total control over the relationship. It's not a common fantasy to be pregnant every year for the remainder of their fertile years.

Make no mistake, this would be a huge freaking sacrifice for female protagonists and a painless if not entirely enjoyable job for the males (again, unless they lived in the asshole world that is Y the last man where women all become massive asshole men for some reason) who get all the fun and none of the consequences in this scenario.

I think you'll find that there are a whole lot of women who really, really get into disempowerment, objectification and forced impregnation. I find this to actually be far more common than the "fawned over" scenario, which was rather a surprise to me when I first started digging around. In a large number of cases, the impregnation involved was desired as part of being forced, wherein the female "protagonist" is at the mercy of the "harem" of men, not the other way around.

I can site the numbers I collected from the profiles I examined but that's pretty useless since I am not at liberty to share the methods I used to obtain them. Again, this is not scientific on my part, it is merely a matter of me sharing what I've seen based on data I collected in the course of researching people's fantasies for writing erotica. It's not exhaustive, just a note on trends I saw while doing this.

 

[Phasmal]

Oh, did I make it sound like not being willing to sacrifice oneself for the entire human race is selfish? Are... are you trying to make me feel feelings about pointing that fact out? Yes, if there's something you can do to save the entirety of the human race and you decide not to because you enjoy your life so much in other ways then it is a selfish action or inaction.

Do you believe that any single person's life is more valuable than the continuation of all human life?

Don't get me wrong, we're not debating pro-choice or women's rights here. We're debating having the ability to save an entire species of sentient beings and not doing so. I mean, I guess you could also just agree to octomom it one time and punt the problem down the field at the expense of nine months of your life. Would even that be agreeable to you?

No, me and my selfish bajingo are going to destroy humanity.
Like I said, if it got to the point where it were literally up to me, that's already too late. And besides, as much as you're hand-waving it, I'd literally rather die than be used as an incubator by anyone. I dunno, call it a personal dealbreaker.

Sorry that in this incredibly-impossible dystopian fantasy I don't meet your standards of morality, but- fuck it.
Death first.