Poll: Sonic in 3D, What would you do to make it work?

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searanox

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SirSchmoopy said:
And? Sonic Adventure is HIGHLY more talked about then Sonic on the genesis. Going back to 2D like megaman doesn't mean jack. It might work ONCE, but it won't work if they are trying to make a dozen more Sonic games which... wait a second.... yup they are.

Stop with straw arguments? You don't even have a point. You are just attacking others.
What are you talking about, attacking others? I post my thoughts on what would make the Sonic franchise better, and you start claiming my opinion is invalid because I haven't played the last couple of games - which, I should note, do not incorporate any of the ideas I have proposed, and are not very good. I never advocated a return to 2D; in fact, I argued that an open-ended 3D design in the vein of Super Mario 64 could do the series good if it was executed well, and would add some much-needed freshness in a way that doesn't involve lame and unlikable new characters. I'm not sure why you've chosen to single me out, but this silly argument is not contributing anything to the discussio. I request that you stop contesting my knowledge of Sonic, and maybe instead evaluate the ideas I posited in the first place.
 

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tk1989 said:
I believe that Sonic should just stick to 2D gameplay, but there are also many other things which need to be changed before Sonic ever has a chance of being good again!
We must believe in Sonic, and his potential. If we cannot find the answers to why Sonic has yet to make it in 3D, then neither will Sega. Put your mind to it!
 

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Tehan said:
Although I may regret this post because others may have said this, but see how the old game Street Fighter has stuck to its roots despite relying on its fan-base, but you see Sonic has given out to cheap games and aimed at a younger age, but sonic should be 3D but non 3D like Street Fighter 4 or how its rendered in Super Smash Bros Brawl.
I agree, taking the 3D look and 2D gameplay is just taking the easy way out! Sonic does have the potential for 3D, and I think we can find the answers we need if we just look back on our crappier 3D Sonic experiences.
 

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Hamster at Dawn said:
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I'd walk into the Sonic Team offices, say "your all fired" then burn it to the ground.
Sonic Team must really hate their fans though, huh?
They still have fans?
Touche', I think a better phrasing of it would be, SONIC has fans, and Sonic Team hates Sonic fans.
 

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buy teh haloz said:
Simple.

KILL SONIC TEAM.
Give sonic team a new director, or better yet let the next Sonic game be evaluated by the fans before they even waste their time and money making it. I mean, don't these people have focus groups? If not they should recruit fans for that!
 

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sonicspin said:
I've been doing research on the Sonic the Hedgehog games from the past nine years, and there is one consistency with most every one of them; They play like total garbage... This bears the question, can a 2D Sonic survive in a 3D world? What do you think this hedgehog needs? New Characters? Open world? Let me know!
can you make it so we could hit more than one selection?
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was good

and sonic 3D blast was shit, but I still played it because it was 3D!
 

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JWAN said:
sonicspin said:
I've been doing research on the Sonic the Hedgehog games from the past nine years, and there is one consistency with most every one of them; They play like total garbage... This bears the question, can a 2D Sonic survive in a 3D world? What do you think this hedgehog needs? New Characters? Open world? Let me know!
can you make it so we could hit more than one selection?
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was good

and sonic 3D blast was shit, but I still played it because it was 3D!
I know that most people think all of them would help the Sonic series, but I want to learn what you think would help MOST with the games. As for the Sonic 3D blast comment, who didn't?
 

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sonicspin said:
buy teh haloz said:
Simple.

KILL SONIC TEAM.
Give sonic team a new director, or better yet let the next Sonic game be evaluated by the fans before they even waste their time and money making it. I mean, don't these people have focus groups? If not they should recruit fans for that!
They just don't know how to make a Sonic game. Lets count the number of new ideas that got crammed into the games.

Hoverboards, Werehogs, falling in love with a human, guns, fishing, telekinesis, sword weilding, and fishing.

That, and they introduced so many worthless characters they might as well get run over by a cargo truck.

All what Sonic team does to make a sonic game is that they have a huge dartboard filled with ideas, and then just go "*pft* Sonic. *pft* wields *pft* A magical *pft* chillidog *pft* to save the world. Alright! Let's go. Let's hope this works out for us, cause we're really just guessing here.
 

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buy teh haloz said:
sonicspin said:
buy teh haloz said:
Simple.

KILL SONIC TEAM.
Give sonic team a new director, or better yet let the next Sonic game be evaluated by the fans before they even waste their time and money making it. I mean, don't these people have focus groups? If not they should recruit fans for that!
They just don't know how to make a Sonic game. Lets count the number of new ideas that got crammed into the games.

Hoverboards, Werehogs, falling in love with a human, guns, fishing, telekinesis, sword weilding, and fishing.

That, and they introduced so many worthless characters they might as well get run over by a cargo truck.

All what Sonic team does to make a sonic game is that they have a huge dartboard filled with ideas, and then just go "*pft* Sonic. *pft* wields *pft* A magical *pft* chillidog *pft* to save the world. Alright! Let's go. Let's hope this works out for us, cause we're really just guessing here.
Your words make me chuckle, congrats! The funny thing is, that as soon as you were done writing that a flashing red light started going off at Sonic Team HQ, "THEY FOUND US OUT! QUICK, BURN THE DARTBOARD! FREE THE MANATEES! OH MY GOD! I'M ON FIRE!" Yup, that just happened...
 

Sixties Spidey

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sonicspin said:
buy teh haloz said:
sonicspin said:
buy teh haloz said:
Simple.

KILL SONIC TEAM.
Give sonic team a new director, or better yet let the next Sonic game be evaluated by the fans before they even waste their time and money making it. I mean, don't these people have focus groups? If not they should recruit fans for that!
They just don't know how to make a Sonic game. Lets count the number of new ideas that got crammed into the games.

Hoverboards, Werehogs, falling in love with a human, guns, fishing, telekinesis, sword weilding, and fishing.

That, and they introduced so many worthless characters they might as well get run over by a cargo truck.

All what Sonic team does to make a sonic game is that they have a huge dartboard filled with ideas, and then just go "*pft* Sonic. *pft* wields *pft* A magical *pft* chillidog *pft* to save the world. Alright! Let's go. Let's hope this works out for us, cause we're really just guessing here.
Your words make me chuckle, congrats! The funny thing is, that as soon as you were done writing that a flashing red light started going off at Sonic Team HQ, "THEY FOUND US OUT! QUICK, BURN THE DARTBOARD! FREE THE MANATEES! OH MY GOD! I'M ON FIRE!" Yup, that just happened...
Can you imagine how funny that would be if that really happened? Imagine the kotaku newspost:

"Sonic team has blessed us with terrible game after terrible game, and we never knew their secrets to how astonishingly bad they can make their flagship franchise. Well, I'm in front of Sonic Team HQ in Japan, and well, it's on fire.

Fire alarms are ringing, half naked, and even butt naked people are jumping out of windows, and now they're chucking a GIGANTIC dartboard out of a window (they had to break it into 4 pieces to get it to fit in the space of the window), and...... a Manatee... Okay.... Well it's official.

Sonic Team is fucked
 

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lets face it, Sonic is dead. There will never be a good Sonic game again as long as they make it a 3D game.
 

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buy teh haloz said:
sonicspin said:
buy teh haloz said:
sonicspin said:
buy teh haloz said:
Simple.

KILL SONIC TEAM.
Give sonic team a new director, or better yet let the next Sonic game be evaluated by the fans before they even waste their time and money making it. I mean, don't these people have focus groups? If not they should recruit fans for that!
They just don't know how to make a Sonic game. Lets count the number of new ideas that got crammed into the games.

Hoverboards, Werehogs, falling in love with a human, guns, fishing, telekinesis, sword weilding, and fishing.

That, and they introduced so many worthless characters they might as well get run over by a cargo truck.

All what Sonic team does to make a sonic game is that they have a huge dartboard filled with ideas, and then just go "*pft* Sonic. *pft* wields *pft* A magical *pft* chillidog *pft* to save the world. Alright! Let's go. Let's hope this works out for us, cause we're really just guessing here.
Your words make me chuckle, congrats! The funny thing is, that as soon as you were done writing that a flashing red light started going off at Sonic Team HQ, "THEY FOUND US OUT! QUICK, BURN THE DARTBOARD! FREE THE MANATEES! OH MY GOD! I'M ON FIRE!" Yup, that just happened...
Can you imagine how funny that would be if that really happened? Imagine the kotaku newspost:

"Sonic team has blessed us with terrible game after terrible game, and we never knew their secrets to how astonishingly bad they can make their flagship franchise. Well, I'm in front of Sonic Team HQ in Japan, and well, it's on fire.

Fire alarms are ringing, half naked, and even butt naked people covered in shit are jumping out of windows, and now they're chucking a GIGANTIC dartboard out of a window (they had to break it into 4 pieces to get it to fit in the space of the window), and...... a Manatee... that's been- oh dear jesus- *throws up* Okay.... Now the sky is burning with the soul of a thousand dead, and millions of people are cheering, some even pissing/shitting on the burning remains and corpses. The exception being yahtzee running around, massively drunk, yelling words from a picket he was holding saying "THE EVIL HAS BEEN PURGED! EMBRACE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD- *barf*"

Well it's official:


Sonic Team is fucked

EDIT: Sorry for double post... My pc is acting bananas.
 

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sebar nl said:
lets face it, Sonic is dead. There will never be a good Sonic game again as long as they make it a 3D game.
As long as Sonic has fans, he will never be dead...It's just right now he's lying on the ground with the crap kicked out of him, bleeding...and dying...but this is the point were the fans must answer the call, I believe the fans are just about the only thing that can heal this franchise! The only question is, will anybody listen?
 

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sonicspin said:
Speaking of Sonic and the Black Knight, Nintendo Power already gave SBK 8/10 whereas they gave Secret Rings 8.5/10. I've done the math of all previous Nintendo Power reviews and these are my findings:

Sonic Unleashed...........8/10 NP...............AVG 6.6/10...........Diff+ 1.4
Sonic Secret Rings........8.5/10 NP.............AVG 7.0/10...........Diff+ 1.5
Shadow The Hedgehog.......8/10 NP...............AVG 5.3/10...........Diff+ 2.7
Sonic Heroes..............8.5/10 NP.............AVG 7.4/10...........Diff+ 1.1
Sonic Riders..............8/10 NP...............AVG 6.3/10...........Diff+ 1.7
Sonic Riders Zero G.......7/10 NP ..............AVG 5.8/10...........Diff+ 1.2
Sonic Adventure DX........7/10 NP ..............AVG 6.4/10...........Diff+ 0.6
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle..8.5 / 10 NP...........AVG 7.3/10...........Diff+ 1.2

Average Nintendo Power Score= 7.9375

Sonic and the Black Knight NP Score= 8/10

Average Overrating by Nintendo Power= 1.425 = 1.5 points

Combine the two calculations and this will be the most likely score!

Sonic and the Black Knight Average Rating 6.5/10!

Does not sound very promising, but this is just by calculating averages. Let's see what my predictions say about 10 days from now!
Just to remind us all Sonic and the Black Knight comes out in 3 days, If there IS a Shittiness pattern this will prove it!
 

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cartooner2008 said:
Speaking of dieing, when will this thread die?
Not too soon, lets hope it stays here forever! ^_^ Here, let me help you out d-y-i-n-g, dying. Don't be a fool, stay in school!
 

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sell sonic to Dimps studios. they successfully recreated the sonic class twice one what was believed to have been an inferior console port. twice.