Poll: Sony Pulls Out of the Console Race

loa

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Maybe your apocalyptic scenario would carry more weight if you explained what "hardcore" means?
 

gigastrike

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I'm pretty sure that Nintendo is making a point to appeal to the "hardcore" market in the next generation anyway.
 

y8c616

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The market needs diversity to be healthy, and I've always been a PS guy anyway so this would be bad. Also if you work out average sales per year PS3 outsells the 360 anyway (as its been out a year less and only sold 3 million less units)
 

JasonKaotic

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The only reason the PS3 isn't doing so well is because it had a rough introduction to the current generation. Because of it the Xbox 360 got a head start, and by the time the PS3 had a steady release most people had already bought an Xbox and didn't want to buy both consoles, and more people bought a 360 because it had a much bigger community than the PS3. It has to be said, at least to me the PS3 is better in every way except community.
Next generation I can't tell what will happen. Either the fanboys will wait for their console to come out and buy that, or if the PS4 and next Xbox have a closer release date the PS4 might have a much fairer chance. We'll see.
But I doubt the rumours are true. If Sony can ignore the awful sales of the Vita, I'm pretty sure they won't be bothered enough by the PS3's position to scrap the PS4.
And we can all pretty much ignore the Wii-U. Unless they go back to their old ways I doubt Nintendo will be in the war much longer.
 

soes757

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As long a Sony is moving units and making money there's no way they're dropping the console market.
 

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It would be awful. Say what you will about either console, but competition is good for the industry, and since Nintendo doesn't really have the main AAA titles on its console its not really a competitor in most people's eyes as in a lot of cases the demographics are different.

Also the numbers that put the 360 in the lead are rather abysmal, less than a million and around 4 million. I would personally like to see the same statistic but with only first time buyers since with the 360's well known hardware issues at launch and many people buying multiple consoles because of those or to upgrade, I feel the numbers are even closer if not putting Sony in the lead. Also it is worth pointing out that Sony said they aren't releasing the next console this year, but they already highered designers for it.
 

Agow95

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I'm not a sony fan, but microsoft are asses with some things, overall, I would say it would be alright, at least xbox has better live service, and doesn't get hacked.
 

Xman490

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The poll is strange, since "hardcore" is not really defined. I assume that by "hardcore", you mean on the cutting edge of $200 technology. In that case, of course it's bad, as Microsoft would in that case has somewhat of a monopoly.
However, that is unlikely to happen. Even if Sony drops out, Nintendo and computers would still provide some competition, though not between highly similar products.
 

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Eventidal said:
Sir, I am deeply offended.

Nintendo has as much hardcore as MS and Sony do, or even more. Look at Monster Hunter Tri. Look at Sin and Punishment or Kid Icarus: Uprising.*snip*
I agree but you did leave out Xenoblade Chronicles one of the most impressive and enjoyable games this generation (or any generation) there is also the last story coming out soon so hopefully that will be good as well and dont forget mario galaxy a rare game that has appeal to both hardcore and casual gamers.

Trouble with Nintendo wii is that there are a lot more casual games on the system so the `proper` games tend to get lost and bypass most peoples attention and now they seem to have dug themselves into a hole by trying to appeal to the casual crowd only to realise casual gamers dont really buy that many games and arent a sustainable primary market.

Anyway if for some reason Microsoft did become the only `hardcore` console on the market I would stop gaming as it would be a very bad situation for the market there needs to be competition and Microsoft can not be trusted to not screw over everybody as much as possible if they had a monopoly on the console market (or near to). Actually I wouldnt trust any company with a monopoly not to try and milk people as much as possible but out of the three console manufacturers microsofts dominance would be worst case scenario.
I can't honestly say anything about a game I don't have yet, now can I? :p I'd love to talk about how great Deadly Creatures is or Muramasa maybe, but I don't have those either. (though I have played Muramasa. Damn fine, difficult as hell game. Forgot to list that one in my post) There are plenty more I haven't played like Dead Space: Extraction, RE: Darkside Chronicles, Red Steel 2, the Conduit games, etc.

What likely caused the problems with the public image of the Wii is retailers. The good games you see on shelves are almost nothing but 1st party ones that everyone knows about. Anything else that's even a bit good gets scooped up by guys like me who know the system, and what's left is all the crap that nobody wants to buy, taking up shelf space, and the popular casual stuff that continually sells. I've searched high and low in every game store I go to when I visit one, and I rarely see the Wii's third party gems sitting on shelves.
 

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I too will never buy another Microsoft system. They've given us two generations of pure shit that will, with only the rare exception, break on it's own accord in a terribly obvious planned obsolecnc scheme (My Dreamcast still works after a bought it at launch, my original Xbox has been broken for years (before I got my 360) and two of the 360's I had died. Also I've never had any Sony system die on me.


To be frank, I think this is bullshit. Sony is not pulling out of the console race, they're just not rushing into pushing their shit out like Microshit. Past two generations have followed a pattern: Let your biggest opponents put out their system first and then build something better. They could be doing this, or they could just be focused on the Vita for now, but I seriously refuse to believe that with all the cash they've made in the market that they are going anywhere.

If this did happen however, I'd become a pure PC gamer, because fuck Nintendo for being absurdly childish these days (I used to defend them from this claim back on the Gamecube but with the Wii there's not much I can do. Even their mature games ended up childish: See also: Madworld. Not that there aren't good games, but they are few and far between, and because of the last gen graphics every game on the system I can't help but think I'd rather be playing on PS3 with move.), and just generally fuck Microsoft and everything their entirely greed based console production stands for (if you don't know what planned obsolesce is google it real quick, and then come back and try and tell me that's not what they're doing).

I mean, really, I play my PC way more than my PS3 even as it is, so again not a big deal, but I guess I would be a little upset because Microdicks would win by default, and they don't deserve to win anything.
 

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mindlesspuppet said:
*stuff not about me*

burningdragoon said:
The idea of a "one console future" isn't only one company producing consoles, but multiple companies producing the same console. Much like how DVD players work, or even somewhat like how there are many different companies making PCs, but they all run Windows. I look forward to that happening but I think we have at least 1 more console generation before it does.

To the main point, this isn't a process of elimination you know. Just because we haven't heard much about Sony's next console (other than, you know, the Vita) doesn't mean anything either way about what their plan is. Some pretty wild and not well backed up speculation in here.
That would be called a computer...
Yes, that's the point. The PS3 and Xbox360 (and the Wii) are already specialized computers. The "one console future" is having a generic specialized computer, called a gaming console (or more likely a "media player") that has multiple manufacturers each with there own, but they all will play the same games. Every game would play on every console.

Just because we already have "regular" computers that function like that, doesn't mean there isn't a place for a console version. If that was the case, we wouldn't have consoles in the first place.
 

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Well, that might mean the PS exclusives would come to the Microsoft systems, which is nice. I always wanted to play Uncharted or inFamous without having to buy two new consoles.
 

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burningdragoon said:
mindlesspuppet said:
*stuff not about me*

burningdragoon said:
The idea of a "one console future" isn't only one company producing consoles, but multiple companies producing the same console. Much like how DVD players work, or even somewhat like how there are many different companies making PCs, but they all run Windows. I look forward to that happening but I think we have at least 1 more console generation before it does.

To the main point, this isn't a process of elimination you know. Just because we haven't heard much about Sony's next console (other than, you know, the Vita) doesn't mean anything either way about what their plan is. Some pretty wild and not well backed up speculation in here.
That would be called a computer...
Yes, that's the point. The PS3 and Xbox360 (and the Wii) are already specialized computers. The "one console future" is having a generic specialized computer, called a gaming console (or more likely a "media player") that has multiple manufacturers each with there own, but they all will play the same games. Every game would play on every console.

Just because we already have "regular" computers that function like that, doesn't mean there isn't a place for a console version. If that was the case, we wouldn't have consoles in the first place.
If different companies started making the 'same' console, that means hardware would be different, even if it maintains the same specs. This means developers wouldn't be able to optimize games for all the makes of said system. Which means, this hypothetical console's power would be vastly under utilized, as PCs are today. The advantage consoles have over PCs is that developers are creating for specific hardware, thus it's easier to get more out of it.

Such a thing would not exist, because if different companies could make their own version they would try to one up the other by raising specs. If specs vary, then some consoles would not preform as well as others, if at all.

What you describe is a gaming platform that works over a variety of hardware. Again, it's called a PC, more specifically Windows.
 

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Let's face it, we don't need new consoles right now anyway.
I strongly disagree, both the PS3 and 360 are retarding progress - at least Microsoft are aware of this. Maybe it's a case of Sony literally not being able to release a new console at present, I am sure brand strength will see them safe for the foreseeable future.
 

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I lend no credence to rumours. I'll believe it when I see it.
Same here. The Playstation is a HUGE part of Sony. They have a lot of people and money invested in it. They can't just "opt out" of the console race without some serious changes in their company structure and business model.
 

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I'm sorry but Sony is third...in your dreams. And honestly I can't understand why a gamer would want a serious competitor like Sony to pull out. I can't understand this logic. I would say the more the merrier.
 

Twilight_guy

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Sony may be third but unless there hemorrhaging money I doubt if they will pull out and lose their market share. Making a little money is better then making nothing and having to close one of the parts of your company.