Poll: Statment: Games with sex in them

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Baldr

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Sex is a private matter between individuals, not society, therefore it does not belong in the media.
 

StriderShinryu

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No, they are not. They can be, of course, and maybe often are, but they don't need to be. Truth be told, if games are ever going to portray mature adult relationships (and they already do in some cases), they are going to need to contain love and sex and all that messiness. Nudity isn't necessarily required but, once again, if it's used in a mature manner, there's no reason it categorically shouldn't be there.
 

sammysoso

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It really depends on how it's being presented.

Applies to romance in general, if it is handled in a mature way than I'm on board.
 
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Mr.K. said:
if we go far enough back I'm pretty sure someone objected to the wheel and called it corruption of youth and what not.
If you want an example of that for future arguments, Aristotle argued against literacy because he thought it would give people short memories and lead to shallower thought/thinking

Captcha: "hit the sack"
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Dude. Not cool
 

DoPo

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Baldr said:
Sex is a private matter between individuals, not society, therefore it does not belong in the media.
It's in movies, books, music, and art already, so it seems you're a bit late. Oh, and if you missed it, the society seems to also be interested in sex. See talk shows, advice columns, and the media I already mentioned. So, it seems you're also a bit wrong.
 

Phasmal

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Eh, it depends on how they handle it.
If it's just cheap sex appeal then obviously it will come across as shallow and pandering.
But games with sex in them as part of the story or that's not just a selling point and actually means something, then yeah, that's a good use of it.
 

Lilani

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ProfessorLayton said:
M... Mass Effect 1 was poorly received? Where?
It's not that the game was poorly received. It's that FOX news stirred up a veritable shitstorm about the sexual content in the game, and the gaming community fired such a vigorous shitstorm in return that the "expert" they had originally brought on the program to condemn the game made an apology afterward. After gamers rating-bombed a book of hers on Amazon, she came out with a letter saying that she hadn't played the game, and that FOX had given her materials to look over before the program, but after she did some investigating on her own she came to realize it wasn't nearly as bad as FOX had convinced her it was. Jim Sterling even did an episode of the Jimquisition about it.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/3799-Fight-in-the-Name-of-Childishness
 

Lilani

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Baldr said:
Sex is a private matter between individuals, not society, therefore it does not belong in the media.
What, so when we're making stories about people we just have to ignore the fact that sex exists? I agree that people shouldn't be giving play-by-plays of their sex lives on Twitter and Facebook and in the news, but ignoring it in all artistic media is just silly.
 

DoPo

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Lilani said:
ProfessorLayton said:
M... Mass Effect 1 was poorly received? Where?
It's not that the game was poorly received. It's that FOX news stirred up a veritable shitstorm about the sexual content in the game
While true, are there that many people, outside the gaming circle, who still remember that? I only manage to retain the memory because it keeps cropping up in gamer discussions, never have I seen/heard/read any other people talk about that (well, except few mentions to do with how Fox sucks). And it has been several years already. I don't really think that qualifies as "poorly received" if it only happened for a very short while - pretty much everybody critiqued Fox afterwards, including Jack friggin' Thompson himself. You know your fight against a game is not going well, if the one man vidya inquisition calls bullshit on it.
 

FrozenCones

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I personally dont have a problem with it. I can see it being a bit of a taboo with how "real" games are looking with current technology. Perhaps there is somewhat of a grey area with how much sex you can have in games before it becomes interactive pornography.

I remember the first Leisure Suit Larry game where if you had unprotected sex (bouncing censored image) with the hooker your cock would explode shortly after. Correct me if i'm wrong but I dont recall that getting massive amounts of media hype.
 

Slayer_2

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It usually means that I won't like the game, however if it was done well ever, I would like it. My problem is with stuff like chicks wearing bikini chain mail armor into combat and other such stupidity. An actual decently done sex scene or interactive sex minigame could enhance certain games.
 

NeutralDrow

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The games I play that have sex in them are of a niche genre. I seriously doubt they're going for extra attention.

Marik2 said:
I also liked how Lilly was taking the lead with her love scenes. It showed her character well in how she handles situations.

Trying to find other games that have a strong female protagonist that has them taking the lead
Technically, the only heroine in KS who didn't take the lead at some point was Hanako. Even Rin engineered her scene.
 

lacktheknack

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Indigo Prophecy had a necrophilia sequence in it (thankfully not interactive, but it so could have been).

No one cared. It was a good game, too, for the first three quarters of it.
 

Lilani

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DoPo said:
While true, are there that many people, outside the gaming circle, who still remember that? I only manage to retain the memory because it keeps cropping up in gamer discussions, never have I seen/heard/read any other people talk about that (well, except few mentions to do with how Fox sucks). And it has been several years already. I don't really think that qualifies as "poorly received" if it only happened for a very short while - pretty much everybody critiqued Fox afterwards, including Jack friggin' Thompson himself. You know your fight against a game is not going well, if the one man vidya inquisition calls bullshit on it.
Yeah, I dunno. Apparently the OP remembers quite well that whole shitstorm. I don't really know what else to make of it apart from that, quite honestly :S Poorly presented doesn't even begin to describe this topic.
 

UnusualStranger

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Huh. So why does "AGREE" not have to give an example? Seems like a tilted poll to me.

Anyways, sex is just a thing. Just like violence is a thing, or drugs are a thing, or prostitution, or experimentation, or all sorts of other things. Sex just has a particular stigma because of where ya live or what ya grew up with. God of War did it because they were already doing horrible things, why not include that too? Its what happened during that time, and Kratos is still a guy.

And then ya got Mass Effect taking it as a step forward in a relationship, or Heavy Rain doing that too, apparently. All sorts of uses for it, and they don't even have to be good reasons all the time. Its like asking "Why did they need to be violent? Can't they just discuss their problems instead?"

Yeah, they might have been able to, but that probably wouldn't be as exciting a game for a lot of people.
 

Chemical Alia

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I don't recall ever actually playing a game that has nudity or sex in it to any notable degree, and I'm pretty content to do without it in my video games. Sex is a part of life, but then again, so is filing my taxes and I don't need that shit in my games either.
 

Yopaz

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ProfessorLayton said:
M... Mass Effect 1 was poorly received? Where?
Metacritic. It only got 89, that's a terrible score.

Sex in games gets added because the developer wants to add relationships to create more depth to the story. I wont comment on how successful they are in this since I haven't played games containing sex. However relationships and sex go hand in hand and I think sex have a place in games just like it got a place in other mediums.
 

Overusedname

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At the moment, I think our medium is clumsy as hell with regards to it, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying.

Persona 4 had good romance, but the sex is MAYBE implied at best. It's open for interpretation. Katawa Shoujo handled it pretty well. And Mass Effect had good intentions and tried to be genuinely beautiful, and I think some pairings succeeded in that regard.

Other than those three, everything I've seen is either clumsy or stupid. But hey, my opinion. And sex is just a thing that happens and it's a part of life. Why be ashamed of it? All the things I just listed are M-rated, if Fox News doesn't understand what that means it's no skin off nose.

Also: Nudity isn't always sexualized.
 

Terminate421

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Mass Effect's sex scene had a point to it,

most games that have them do not have a point to them.
 

Bat Vader

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Caramel Frappe said:
Marik2 said:
Renegade Shepard said:
Amen to you guys for bringing up Katawa Shoujo.

It's the first visual novel (if not game in general) to make the sex scenes meaningful rather then erotic. When Hanako's sex scene came up, I wasn't blushing or finding myself turning away to the sex. Instead, it showed the depth of her and Hisao's relationship plus pointed out how much of a dumbo Hisao is using the chance to do Hanako when she was showing him her scars.

Every sex scene was unique, and didn't even show a lot apart from the nudity itself. It tied with the stories and basically KS is saying "Sex isn't all about pleasure and hot tension, it's pretty awkward and can go wrong leading to consequences in the long run." You would agree to this especially if you decided to comfort Misha ... by the way Hisao comfort doesn't mean have sex with a stressed out girl.
Katawa Shoujo so far is the only game/VN that I have seen that handles sex in a mature manner. I am sure it isn't the only game/VN to handle it maturely but I have not seen any others.

Also, I think your Misha avatar is awesome.