Hey? Surely the posters aren't for people who've gone out of their way to be racist, they are for people who might otherwise do something offensive without thinking of it.justnotcricket said:Hm. While I agree that it's uncool to have your culture mocked, I think you have to take a minute to try and work out whether or not any racism is actually intended by the costume.
Or...maybe do both? There's no upper limit on anti-racist sentiments, you are allowed to condemn the little things without running out of juice to condemn the big things built on it.justnotcricket said:Still - perhaps protest the KKK, or some group that really *intends* hate toward other cultures?
This. So, so much this.chiggerwood said:This is stupidity on the grandest of scales. If you're that offended by a Halloween costume, please get your head out of your ass. There are real racist in the world that you could be protesting; there are actual injustices that you could stand up against. Sex slavery, starvation, AIDS and holocaust denial, human rights violations the list goes on and on. Why not put your time, money, and energy into something worthwhile!?
I have no idea why this got me so worked up.
That ^chiggerwood said:This is stupidity on the grandest of scales. If you're that offended by a Halloween costume, please get your head out of your ass. There are real racist in the world that you could be protesting; there are actual injustices that you could stand up against. Sex slavery, starvation, AIDS and holocaust denial, human rights violations the list goes on and on. Why not put your time, money, and energy into something worthwhile!?
I have no idea why this got me so worked up.
Sure, by all means. I have no problem with the capmaign, and the posters are effective and well-produced. The question I have is: where do you draw the line? I go back to my example above - am I not allowed to wear a kimono that I find beautiful because I'm somehow mocking a minority culture? As I said, if you've gone out of your way to *negatively* approach the costume; that is, wear whore makeup and tape your eyes back, for example, then you're obviously being racist. But what if you intend no insult, and your costume does not actually make an insult - it's just cultural dress that happens to belong to a culture other than yours. Lots of Japanese people wear jeans every day - does that mean they're mocking white American culture?thaluikhain said:Hey? Surely the posters aren't for people who've gone out of their way to be racist, they are for people who might otherwise do something offensive without thinking of it.justnotcricket said:Hm. While I agree that it's uncool to have your culture mocked, I think you have to take a minute to try and work out whether or not any racism is actually intended by the costume.
Or...maybe do both? There's no upper limit on anti-racist sentiments, you are allowed to condemn the little things without running out of juice to condemn the big things built on it.justnotcricket said:Still - perhaps protest the KKK, or some group that really *intends* hate toward other cultures?
Pretty much this. I see tons of redneck costumes all the time as well as Roman glad/toga costumes, and other Angloesque shit. But it's ONLY racist if it's against non-whites.Silverfox99 said:My problem with the campaign is that it is racist.
First they don't show anyone making fun of rednecks or any other white stereotype. If it is offensive to dress up like another culture then all cultures should be represented, by the logic of their own argument.
I know that this was designed to highlight minority groups but that's where the problem occurs. Racism can and does effect all races and it wont end until all racism stops not just against minority races.
Personally, I would find it hilarious if someone showed up to a party dressed up in white face and as a redneck.
I would say (and interpret the campaign to mean) that it's not so much saying you can or cannot wear certain things, but that you should stop and think about it beforehand.justnotcricket said:Sure, by all means. I have no problem with the capmaign, and the posters are effective and well-produced. The question I have is: where do you draw the line? I go back to my example above - am I not allowed to wear a kimono that I find beautiful because I'm somehow mocking a minority culture? As I said, if you've gone out of your way to *negatively* approach the costume; that is, wear whore makeup and tape your eyes back, for example, then you're obviously being racist. But what if you intend no insult, and your costume does not actually make an insult - it's just cultural dress that happens to belong to a culture other than yours. Lots of Japanese people wear jeans every day - does that mean they're mocking white American culture?