Poll: Swords vs. Guns

Bob the Average

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Thatkidnooneknows said:
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that's not much of a choice the whole reason humans beet out cromagyuins(SP) was because of projectile weapons (a spear in that case) a sword might be romanticized but for those who don't have 20+ hours a week to devote to training or happen to out of shape or old the firearm is the way to go.
I have one question to ask you... What the hell are cromagyuins?
a variety of cavemen i have no idea how to spell the name. I know they are named after the town in France where they where discovered. the relevance to the discussion at hand is they didn't develop thrown spears and had to get very close to kill game and often got hurt in the process.
 

Thatkidnooneknows

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Bob the Average said:
a variety of cavemen i have no idea how to spell it. I know they are named after the town in France where they where discovered. the relevance to the discussion at hand is they didn't develop thrown spears and had to get very close to kill game and often got hurt in the process.
Thanks for clearing that up
 

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hubu5001234 said:
i prefer a blade,guns are dishonorable and don't offer a fair fight
I respectfully disagree some one who is elderly or frail is at a severe disadvantage in a sword fight however in a gun fight that same person would be on equal terms with a 250 pound linebacker.
 

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Thatkidnooneknows said:
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wait i think i have a way to end the debate http://www.lindsayfincher.com/gallery/d/12612-1/mosin_nagant_m44.jpg
you get a sword and a gun in one intimidating package.
Firstly, goes against why I would choose a sword. Secondly, that is no sword sir, that is a glorified bayonette
And what is a bayonet? around the turn of the century the answer became "a sword or knife that can attach to a gun" sorry for the double post
 

EzraPound

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Swords. Killing tends to be motivated by bizarre sociopolitical/personal reasons anyway, so why not jazz it up?
 

Thatkidnooneknows

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I certaintly realize that I am defending a long ago obsolete weapon, but it's because I detest what modern warfare has become. There doesn't seem to be any concievable way to eliminate the prescence of guns in combat anymore, but does the immorality of ending a life with a weapon you do nothing but aim strike anyone else as wrong? I am claiming the sword's superiority as a weapon that gives men a more honorable way to engage in violence. Sword fights end up as fiery battles that leave horrific gore strewn across the field, and the aftermath as well as the battle itself acts as a deterrent for any future conflicts. On the other hand, a battle with guns is cold, fast, efficient, and detached. The outcome is more ghatsly in number, yet easier to accept, simply because of the distance between the killer and the soldier who is to die. I will always live by the sword, knowing it represents something much more wholesome than any firearm.
 

blitz609

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umm did everyone forget about pistols? those are more close/mid ranged and you guys who want your kicks still get em.
 

Thatkidnooneknows

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Bob the Average said:
Thatkidnooneknows said:
Bob the Average said:
wait i think i have a way to end the debate http://www.lindsayfincher.com/gallery/d/12612-1/mosin_nagant_m44.jpg
you get a sword and a gun in one intimidating package.
Firstly, goes against why I would choose a sword. Secondly, that is no sword sir, that is a glorified bayonette
And what is a bayonet? around the turn of the century the answer became "a sword or knife that can attach to a gun" sorry for the double post
I'm not conceding that it is a sword, but my first point is still valid
 

Bob the Average

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Thatkidnooneknows said:
I certaintly realize that I am defending a long ago obsolete weapon, but it's because I detest what modern warfare has become. There doesn't seem to be any concievable way to eliminate the prescence of guns in combat anymore, but does the immorality of ending a life with a weapon you do nothing but aim strike anyone else as wrong? I am claiming the sword's superiority as a weapon that gives men a more honorable way to engage in violence. Sword fights end up as fiery battles that leave horrific gore strewn across the field, and the aftermath as well as the battle itself acts as a deterrent for any future conflicts. On the other hand, a battle with guns is cold, fast, efficient, and detached. The outcome is more ghatsly in number, yet easier to accept, simply because of the distance between the killer and the soldier who is to die. I will always live by the sword, knowing it represents something much more wholesome than any firearm.
how is extending my arm any more honorable than: closing one eye, aligning the sights, taking a deep breath holding it and slowly curling my index finger?
 

The Iron Ninja

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Spatula.

Can you flip burgers with a gun?
Can you swat flies with a sword?
No, or at least, not easily.

But a spatula can do all that, and still be used to deliver terrible and humiliating pain to your enemies.
 

Thatkidnooneknows

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Bob the Average said:
how is extending my arm any more honorable than: closing one eye, aligning the sights, taking a deep breath holding it and slowly curling my index finger?
Quite simply, you didn't shove that bullet through that man's skull
 

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Thatkidnooneknows said:
Sword fights end up as fiery battles that leave horrific gore strewn across the field, and the aftermath as well as the battle itself acts as a deterrent for any future conflicts. On the other hand, a battle with guns is cold, fast, efficient, and detached. The outcome is more ghatsly in number, yet easier to accept, simply because of the distance between the killer and the soldier who is to die. I will always live by the sword, knowing it represents something much more wholesome than any firearm.
I think you got that gore-thing upside down. Ever seen a man shot through the guts with a rifle? I won't post graphic M-level images here, but that a look at this illustration. See the cavity formed by the bullet? All that stuff has to go somewhere, usually it's with the backpressure of the bullet, blowing out of the exit wound like it had been shot from a industrial level pressure hose. And that stuff blowing out happens to be your bones, soft tissue, muscles, intestines...

makes for quite a nauseating sight, let me tell you that.


Sure, swords might be more 'up and personal' but nothing short of artillery and mines can create such a bloody and disgusting sight as rifle-shots. And after seeing the results of that shot, no human can pull the trigger without thinking 'That is what I'm about to cause'.
 

ChosenLord

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Well where do we start....

People who own guns are cowards who fear for there life because they know they're in the wrong,

People who own swords are noble and are out for honour or revenge.

There is something almost.... i cant describe it, when two men (sorry ladys) have a duel with swords, neither has a lack of respect and either is prepared to die,

With Guns its the goal to kill kill kill, with no honour or respect, hide behind cover and take pot shots, lilly livered cowards, or even worse, hide behind another country and fire massive Rockets from miles away?? where is the sense of achievement?

the whole topic reminds me of something my mother repeated to me.....

"one fine day in the middle of the night, two dead men got up to fight, back to back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot one another."
 

Bob the Average

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Thatkidnooneknows said:
Bob the Average said:
how is extending my arm any more honorable than: closing one eye, aligning the sights, taking a deep breath holding it and slowly curling my index finger?
Quite simply, you didn't shove that bullet through that man's skull
you under estimate the difficulty in hitting even a man sized target as close as 100 meters especially when you remember that you focus on the front sight and must place your front site over your now blurred target. you wind up putting a surprising deal of effort into an aimed shot if that doesn't bear on your mind after the man falls you might qualify as a sociopath.