Poll: The Next Obama Conspiracy

[Gudrests]

Given his policies, Obama should be forced to prove that he is not, in fact, George W. Bush.

LOL...niceee

G-bay tho...he took them out of there right?.....O wait.

 

[Wharrgarble]

"But... But... But... Him releasing this other-other version of his Birth Certificate means nothing! It was CLEARLY Photoshopped and it took them three years to get it perfect! But not perfect enough that I, someone with no Photoshopping experience whatsoever, cannot see through the lie!"




...That's pretty much the state of the comments on any news blog right now. It depresses me.

 

[Gudrests]

So, the White House has provided an official birth certificate. Now a lot of stupid people are going to have a few extra weekends free.

What should they latch on to next?

Well to be honest the existance of a birth certificate is kind of a non-factor, and always had been. That had been verified a long time ago if I remember. The actual issue, even if misunderstood by a lot of anti-obamaites was whether he should have gotten a birth certificate to begin with. The contreversy coming down to whether he was born in the US, or on his way to the US and never actually entered American soil to become a so called "anchor baby", but was given a Birth certificate anyway.

From when I was following it, the key elements of the issue largely revolve around people claiming they remembered Obama being born on a plane, and acting as eye witnesses that he never should have had any records made up for him to begin with.

In other words there was a real birth certificate, but he never should have received one. Meaning that a lot of people were argueing that the document should be destroyed as it was not valid and his citizenship should be revoked because he never had it.

I'm no Obama fan, but this largely came down to such a tight window that I really feel it didn't much matter at this point even if it could be reliably proven. The biggest issue I feel is that if it was proven, it would establish a well known precedent for intent to trump actually being born here, and lead to all kinds of problems with immigration, when we already have people trying to come into the US in droves and drop babies so they can stay. That's a whole seperate issue though.

I have been far more concerned by the less-publicized issue that he renounced citizenship to attend school overseas. Largely because that's a simple pass/fail thing where if Obama can be proven to have attended, and that is a school/national policy, then I feel he definatly shouldn't be President. Very few people seem to want to make an official inquiry into that one.

That said, before Obamaites jump down my throat, I'm not going to be debating this at the moment. I've been through this before, and nobody is going to be "converted" on a message board.

I don't think Obama is likely to have any more "conspiricies" generated about him, but I do think his term as president is going to be under some pretty heavy fire.

Obama came in with a scant 7% lead to begin with, and he's slotted off a lot of people. Right now his big advantages are that he's an incumbant, and that the opposition really doesn't have any paticularly good cantidates to put up against him. Even if I'm not an Obama fan, I might very well wind up voting for him on a "lesser of two evils" principle, depending on whom the Republicans run. Both Palin and The Donald would have to do some serious work to get me to vote for them. I'd be more likely to vote for Palin, as I agree with her on a lot of things (I'm not exactly anti-Tea party) but where I disagree it's no small matter. The Donald is pretty much a sideshow in my opinion, this is a guy who has been in scandals about strutting around in his wife's shoes and such in the past. I suppose he might be able to convince me, but despite being a decent businessman I personally believe there needs to be some dignity in the president's office. As someone who believes Bill Clinton should have been impeached for his conduct, and was a disgrace to the country, I can't really support Donald easily. Banging interns, or possible crossdressing (or partial crossdressing), either way it's not the kind of image I want to be associated with the leader of my country. Simply put I don't want a male president whose wandering around the oval office in stiletto heels.

Double Post, Sorry for it but I must say. Sir this is a very well written argument and I do see your point in most of it. And do agree with you in most. Thank you for showing me that some people still do vote and think based on at least some amount of respect for what should be the office and doing what was said.

 

[PettingZOOPONY]

The best part? The Certificate of Live Birth that was released today holds ZERO legal validity. If you were to present it to get a passport or drivers license, they would just kind of look at you and ask why you brought it. The Certification of Live Birth he released back in 2008 is the legally valid document.

Actually its a re issued Long Form Certificate of Live Birth AKA a birth Certificate.

Whatever you want to call it, it holds no legal weight in Hawaii. They had a legal expert on CNN go over the differences between the two.

Actually both have what you call legal weight in any state of the union. The short form is all you actually need to run for prez. The long for is just to shut birthers up.

 

[Sean951]

The best part? The Certificate of Live Birth that was released today holds ZERO legal validity. If you were to present it to get a passport or drivers license, they would just kind of look at you and ask why you brought it. The Certification of Live Birth he released back in 2008 is the legally valid document.

Actually its a re issued Long Form Certificate of Live Birth AKA a birth Certificate.

Whatever you want to call it, it holds no legal weight in Hawaii. They had a legal expert on CNN go over the differences between the two.

Actually both have what you call legal weight in any state of the union. The short form is all you actually need to run for prez. The long for is just to shut birthers up.

The expert on Carol Costello this morning disagrees with that.

 

[Souplex]

Obama is a Bonapartist!
Obama is a viking!
Obama is the socialist Kenyan Muslim anti-Christ!
Obama was less qualified for office than Hillary, and we should have elected her!

 

[Tdc2182]

Wait, you think that proof is gonna sway the Birthers?

Clearly you overestimate them.

 

[Darks63]

They will def say hes a robot from the future or a alien in disguise.

 

[Kermi]

Soon they will discover Obama was actually born in 1957, two years BEFORE Hawaii became one of the United States. This will mean he can only be President of Past America, which actually changes nothing because everything is in the past.
It just means that Republicans can live in hope from moment-to-moment, because Obama isn't President in the time that hasn't passed yet.

 

[johnnnny guitar]

No youre way off this guy explains how Obama wants America to play soccer so that America turns to socialism and then ah wait I wont spoil it but its funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBkbj_S3etY&feature=fvsr


P.S I dont know how to embed videos sorry if you know how could you please do it.

 

[LetalisK]

Actually, people are now claiming that since it took three years to get the full document out, that it was actually photo-shopped.

I've also heard people (like Trump) complaining that he got poor grades, but still went to Columbia and Harvard.

And did you know? He smoked marijuana in college!

If you haven't done a bong load out a hooker's ass then you never really went to college.

I'm kinda sad this whole controversy is "over". Yes, a few crazies will still persist, but I really liked the idiocy surrounding this whole thing. It was entertaining.

 

[MajorDolphin]

Can anyone explain to me why the official birth certificate on the whitehouse website has layers?

Open it up in adobe illustrator, right click, click "unlock panel.."

Now you can move around the elements like signatures, background, text, borders etc... Seems, um.. odd.

 

[jackknife402]

darnit, I thought this would be a pole on what we think would be the next conspiracy that people throw at Obama to discredit him. Be creative man...jeez, now my conspiracy writing hard-on is all limp....

 

[Merkavar]

the birth certificate was photoshopped and hawaii isnt part of the US. this is the biggest cover up since the moon landing.

 

[Canid117]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/history-texbook-from-the-future-holy-shit/

I feel this should be posted.

 

[Danial]

If he Wasn't an American, and the MANY MANY people at the white house missed this before he was elected than you have literally the worst government in the history of the world.

 

[Tulks]

I laughed when I saw the phrase "birthers" on the news yesterday.
It brought to mind a post-apocalyptic future where only a small minority of the population are still fertile.

Maybe Robo-Bama was sent back in time to wipe them out.

 

[MajorDolphin]

I laughed when I saw the phrase "birthers" on the news yesterday.
It brought to mind a post-apocalyptic future where only a small minority of the population are still fertile.

Maybe Robo-Bama was sent back in time to wipe them out.

You seem like a guy who could explain it. Why can I move around these layers in the official pdf?

 

[thatcanadianguy]

i think th republican party is just clutchign at straws. the rep's are nothing but a club of rich old white men who want to STAY rich old white men. see the problem is, most republicans want things like they were in the 'good old days' when rich men had the power, women couldnt vote, and blacks were just farm equipment. now they find themselves in a scary world of rioghts and equality, and they will do ANYTHING in their power to stop it.

 

[SinisterGehe]

I would like him to prove that American government isn't as stupid as it looks like to people who aren't Americans.